AMD Readies 2nd Generation Ryzen Pro Socket AM4 Processors

[btarunr]

AMD is readying its second generation Ryzen Pro socket AM4 processors targeted at commercial desktops in a corporate environment, with additional management and security features. These chips are based on the company's new 12 nm "Pinnacle Ridge" silicon. Its biggest differentiator from the other Ryzen SKUs is the GuardMI feature, which is a collective of Secure Memory Encryption, a hardened Secure Boot feature, Secure Production Environment (useful for big organizations that oversee the manufacturing of their hardware, and fTPM.

AMD's 2nd gen Ryzen Pro lineup initially includes three models: the 8-core/16-thread Ryzen 7 Pro 2700X, the Ryzen 7 Pro 2700, and the 6-core/12-thread Ryzen 5 Pro 2600. Some of these chips are clocked marginally lower than their non-Pro siblings. The Pro 2700X ticks at 3.60 GHz, with 4.10 GHz (vs. 3.70 to 4.30 GHz of the 2700X); while the Pro 2700 and Pro 2600 are clocked on par with its non-Pro counterparts. The decision behind clocking the Pro 2700X lower could have something to do with TDP, which is now 95W, compared to the 105W of the normal 2700X.



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[Space Lynx]

I was confused.
I was impressed by graph.
Then, I remembered that is multi-threaded score, not single threaded.
Closed browser.
Yawnfest 2018.

 

[IceShroom]

AMD need to sell them on retail store. OEM will not take full advantage of those.

 

[HimymCZe]

I was confused.
I was impressed by graph.
Then, I remembered that is multi-threaded score, not single threaded.
Closed browser.
Yawnfest 2018.

... well if you take into account Spectre/Meldown patch for new Intel chips and the fact that new AMD will be 12nm, Ryzen 2xxx and Intel 9xxx series might be pretty close in performance.
And I'll tell you right now if 2700x in 10-15% neighborhood of Intel 9900k, I'll rather have $329 SECURE chip then €833 plebs one.

 

[notb]

Why bother? Has anyone seen a Ryzen PRO desktop at work? Ever?
I bet even people in AMD HQ use Intel-powered PCs.

AMD need to sell them on retail store. OEM will not take full advantage of those.

It's a CPU created for OEMs. Why sell it in retail? What's wrong with the retail Ryzen variant?

 

[IceShroom]

Why bother? Has anyone seen a Ryzen PRO desktop at work? Ever?
I bet even people in AMD HQ use Intel-powered PCs.

It's a CPU created for OEMs. Why sell it in retail? What's wrong with the retail Ryzen variant?

So that people who wanted these can buy these. Did we see any R5 2400GE and 2200GE based products?

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

... well if you take into account Spectre/Meldown patch for new Intel chips and the fact that new AMD will be 12nm, Ryzen 2xxx and Intel 9xxx series might be pretty close in performance.
And I'll tell you right now if 2700x in 10-15% neighborhood of Intel 9900k, I'll rather have $329 SECURE chip then €833 plebs one.

its pointless to respond to him, he is a paid shill that posts once per topic.

I do agree tho, security > plebs.

 

[notb]

So that people who wanted these can buy these.

But why? What's wrong with regular 2700X for gaming? Do you need any of PRO features at home?

Did we see any R5 2400GE and 2200GE based products?

To be honest, I haven't seen any Ryzen-based business product, ever. And not a single EPYC server. And only one TR4 built, which I helped a bit with.
At this point basically all Ryzen sales are retail chips for custom builders.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

But why? What's wrong with regular 2700X for gaming? Do you need any of PRO features at home?

To be honest, I haven't seen any Ryzen-based business product, ever. And not a single EPYC server. And only one TR4 built, which I helped a bit with.
At this point basically all Ryzen sales are retail chips for custom builders.

speaking of shills, i seriously doubt you work in datacenter. If you do, its probably an antiquated one.

 

[carex]

I was confused.
I was impressed by graph.
Then, I remembered that is multi-threaded score, not single threaded.
Closed browser.
Yawnfest 2018.

nope single thread will be equally better or faster 3.2 zen is enough to compete 3.5 pentium

 

[notb]

speaking of shills, i seriously doubt you work in datacenter. If you do, its probably an antiquated one.

Why would I work in a datacenter? :-o

So that people who wanted these can buy these. Did we see any R5 2400GE and 2200GE based products?

Of course. For example Lenovo sells some AiO and SFF with these CPUs. These were niche CPUs from the start, a bit like Intel's -T variants.

nope single thread will be equally better or faster 3.2 zen is enough to compete 3.5 pentium

But do you mean Pentium 4?

Reality disagrees. And BTW: Ryzen 5 1400 actually boosts to 3.4GHz.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Why would I work in a datacenter? :-o

where else will you see an EPYC? duh.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Why would I work in a datacenter? :-o

Of course. For example Lenovo sells some AiO and SFF with these CPUs. These were niche CPUs from the start, a bit like Intel's -T variants.

But do you mean Pentium 4?

Reality disagrees. And BTW: Ryzen 5 1400 actually boosts to 3.4GHz.

Niche cpus, intel sell more tat at this end then any other type of chip, Amd want some of that market and since they're at 0% ish the only way is up , especially since intel are on the defensive , knocking vulnerabilities about their workshop.
What do you call work then, because you're version of busy seams ideal, you didn't say.

 

[notb]

where else will you see an EPYC? duh.

I'd imagine: wherever I see Xeons. Wasn't this the goal? :-D

Also, you think way too much about touching processors. Anyway, I'm not aroused by that.

Niche cpus, intel sell more tat at this end then any other type of chip

I doubt that. The best selling Intel chips are the mobile ones and then the mid-range i3/i5s. A normal 4-core i5 pulls maybe 40-50W (having a very conservative 65W TDP).
More frugal -T variants are going into thin clients and weak AIOs, so not exactly a dominant segment.