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This card should have been the RTX 2070 and priced the same as the GTX 1070 at launch day.

no This was designed for 10nm. so expected clocks would be +20% higher. Besides 2070 will be 10% slower than 2080 on average, same thing. Why not be priced as GTX 970, and be 70% faster compared to the 2+ year old card GTX680, now 1080. What we see now is much slower. Should have been on 8nm with 60 Mtr/mm2 density, 226 mm2 die size, 2.5Ghz Core Clocks(OC to 2.8), RT / tensor core removed/ gone just nonexistend/ allowing for 4096 cores to be fitted for total of 20 Tflops as opposed to current 10, and be named GTX 4060 at 299$ FE coupled with 12GB 192 bit GDDR6 18Gbit for 432GBs.
 
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People are being too judgemental when they don't even own one of the RTX cards or benching it with a proper release driver... :laugh: Still, rumor mill has been cleared & performance for current games is in. Not a huge disappointment for me but something to consider once the new R400 driver, newer games that takes advantage of it & new ray tracing-specific benchmark suites comes out. Early numbers are not something to consider coz 1. Nvidia sent a beta driver, 2. Not all current games has RT or added on last minute as "patches", 3. These cores are relatively new where NO applications/programs that can take advantage of it. Still, a 2080 non Ti to be on similar levels with the 1080Ti without the proper drivers being used is decent in most cases.
A 2080 costing more and performing the same as the 1080ti is sad. Nvidia has had these cards finalized for months plus the month of pre-orders. It's pathetic if Nvidia can't optimize their drivers for popular preexisting games in that time.
 
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A 2080 costing more and performing the same as the 1080ti is sad. Nvidia has had these cards finalized for months plus the month of pre-orders. It's pathetic if Nvidia can't optimize their drivers for popular preexisting games in that time.

Or it's simply not the drivers and that's the real performance of the 2080 , I'd even expect a downgrade for the 10th series performance in the future drivers .
 
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nVidia shares are down as new series didnt meet expectations;

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Nvidia shares are down 1.4 percent Thursday.

Moore (from Morgan Stanley) noted that Nvidia's new RTX 2080 card performed only 3 percent better than the previous generation's 1080Ti card at 4K resolutions.

"We are surprised that the 2080 is only slightly better than the 1080ti (only 3% as stated in the full article) , which has been available for over a year and is slightly less expensive," he said. "With higher clock speeds, higher core count, and 40% higher memory bandwidth, we had expected a bigger boost."

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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/20/nvi...nley-calls-new-gaming-card-disappointing.html
 
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at first I was in salt mode, but now I do understand RTX 20xx and its pricing a little better and I can conclude: remember AMD and Vega and atrocious value vs Pascal and might as well be EOLed before the lauch if there is no room for price to go down? Nvidia saw that and was like "hold my beer"
 
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As predicted, not surprised, moving on.

Let's forget this turd gen ASAP

I'm not taking the P here but I think TPU need to review their scoring system. The scale is 1-10 yet the scoring is always between 8-10, usually even within 9-10.

Scoring system is perfect: It obviously makes zero sense whatsoever. Basically 9-10 means 'it works as advertised'

The point is, if you just read the number you know nothing anyway. Regardless of how its scored.
 
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The scoring system reminds me a bit of Empire magazine and movies. Basically everything is either good or must see when there are obviously giant stinkers released each month in cinemas or aired on Netflix but the folks over there trying to convince me everything is worth seeing. Yeah, no.

TPU it seems is trying to please all the manufacturers with positive recommendations for most things, especially if it has the Nvidia badge.

The other thing that really, really grates me though is the price of a product seems to have no bearing on the score or conclusion, even if it's shockingly bad performance per dollar like we have here. I mean, unless TPU is written for the 1% highest earners in the developed world, I just don't think that is right.
 

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for the 1% highest earners in the developed world, I just don't think that is right.
doesn't that exactly describe the profile of everyone who's looking for a graphics card to drive his 4K monitor?
 
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doesn't that exactly describe the profile of everyone who's looking for a graphics card to drive his 4K monitor?

That's a part of the market for the cards but far from all of it, but even if the 1% was all these cards were really aimed at, I would have thought the conclusion of a product on your site is meant to be for consumers in general, not the 1% only.

(I meant to say 1% of highest earners in the Western World i.e US/Europe)
 
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@W1zzard
The point listed in the "Thumbs down" list as not having Windows 7 support can be removed as drivers are available. This has been true for a little bit. Checked to make sure before buying mine.
https://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/138696
Also, Windows 10 is supported in all versions as of the latest driver version. I have tested this on my LTSB installation.
https://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/138697
These points are correct for my EVGA card, but they should still work even on the FE card you tested.
 

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Many of the new features require windows 10
 

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Just reread the review, nothing stood out. Haven't had any problems with 7 yet. Are we talking about DX12?
DX12 and everything that's based on it like DXR
 
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DX12 and everything that's based on it like DXR
Fair enough. Everything else works though. OGL and Vulkan based games run great! So maybe it would be more accurate to state in the review something like; " While Windows 7 is supported with drivers, features exclusive to DirectX 12 will still be limited to Windows 10. " Otherwise it's just misleading and false advertising.
 
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