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Even though it's very likely possible, what computing scenario would require 128GB of system ram in a desktop environment?
Um... bragging rights?
Because of the standard.
Then perhaps it's time for a new standard for motherboard layouts. ATX has been around for what... 10 plus years? Maybe it's time for a new design that fits more in line with the hardware requirements of today.
 
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Honesty love this but then again I'm the type of person to actually like "solutions looking for a problem".
 
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I am having doubts about the mental conditions of this particular editor btarunr, because I failed to see
1. why it is ironic to use a Samsung die (is ASUS at war with Samwang or what?)
2. why he/she slanders a company as "scumbag" just because they slowed their expansion because the demand is not good enough?
I fail to comprehend that such expression of extreme hatred managed to the frontpage.
Another form of click bait, if the headline isn't juicy enough then make the content more spicy.

I honestly have to question why does news have to be reported this way, is it Fox & Friends (or CNN for the other side) festive season?

Seems like you ruffled a few feathers First Strike
 
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Nah you are wrong. Would be nice if I can have 1TB~2TB DRAM per local CPU access. In bioinformatics, especially with huge data sets the more ram the better. I was constantly out of ram when performing a 17 samples (in triplicates) microbiome analysis and i constantly maxed out my 128GB RAM
Looking forward to Optane DIMMs? :)

But yeah... it's similar with general use databases. Fast memory is always the problem, not processing power. The main task a CPU does in databases is comparing numbers as fast as possible (and with as little lag as possible).

8TB database used by 50 people is perfectly fine on 8 cores and I bet it wouldn't be bad on 4 as well (if the architecture is fast enough). But the storage is always an issue.

LHC at CERN generates massive amounts of data in all experiments combined. Processing was never an issue (all of the data is processed in some way, after all :)), but saving was.
As a result, they save just a fraction of information gathered (the part that is most likely to contain interesting results) - currently about 50 PB / year.
Of course data is saved to tape and they could just buy more of it. But the problem is in caching between the recording and saving in a datacenter.
And even though they upgraded the storage system 3 years ago (so to - then - cutting edge SSDs, presumably), not much has changed.
Honesty love this but then again I'm the type of person to actually like "solutions looking for a problem".
To be brutally honest, finding ways to improve RAM capacity is as far from "solutions looking for a problem" as you'll find in TPU news section. :)
I mean: this piece was published next to "you can't synchronize case fans with your 2080Ti" and "but don't worry because you can use this LN2 system instead"
 

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Another form of click bait, if the headline isn't juicy enough then make the content more spicy.

I honestly have to question why does news have to be reported this way, is it Fox & Friends (or CNN for the other side) festive season?

Seems like you ruffled a few feathers First Strike

I'm guessing it's ironic to use Samsung memory to produce huge sticks of RAM because they are slowing production to artificially limit supply and thus maintain high prices, for a bigger profit margin. He calls them scumbags for this because, frankly, it's a pretty cut and dry pro-Samsung, anti-consumer move. While they can do as they please (within the limits of the law), well, it's not a very nice thing to do.

Now, while I do agree with those sentiments, I also agree, at least as far as that it shouldn't be in the original post of a news topic without an "editorial" tag, because here, rather than simply reporting the facts, btarunr has injected his personal views into a news post. I feel such a comment would be justified (even by news staff/site mods/admins what have you) in a separate post in the thread, or in the original writeup in post #1 with an "editorial" tag... or at the very least, in a separate paragraph(s) that come after the facts in a way that clearly says to the reader something like "those were the facts, here begins my view on the subject" (that isn't to say those words should literally be there, but the distinction should be obvious).

Hint: perhaps criticism delivered in this manner would be better received than flat out making insulting comments, like you "doubts about the mental conditions" :eek: of the author, or flaming him for "clickbait ... Fox & Friends", etc. Such comments aren't likely to be taken positively, rather they are more likely to inspire retaliation that leads to a shitfest (and deleted posts).
 
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Now, while I do agree with those sentiments, I also agree, at least as far as that it shouldn't be in the original post of a news topic without an "editorial" tag, because here, rather than simply reporting the facts, btarunr has injected his personal views into a news post
He has been writing these personal (emotional) articles for a while. Nothing new here.
Lately, he also got into a habit of hiding/deleting posts that point this out. :p
 

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He has been writing these personal (emotional) articles for a while. Nothing new here.
Lately, he also got into a habit of hiding/deleting posts that point this out. :p
Constructive criticism is always preferable to outright bashing. If you have a problem with his articles, you are free to speak your mind (in various ways); however, it's better for everyone if done in a decent manner, as opposed to doing so with an aggressive attitude and outright negative remarks. Which comment do you think btarunr, or anyone else who has any authority on the matter, is more likely to listen to? My polite constructive criticism, or First Strike's comment regarding his "mental conditions"? As for me, while I don't always agree with the way btarunr's news articles are written, I find First Strike's criticism of no (or even negative) value because it was made with derogatory remarks. If he hadn't thrown that comment in, I find it extremely likely that, at least, his original post would not have been deleted, and maybe his criticism would have been heard.
 
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Constructive criticism is always preferable to outright bashing. If you have a problem with his articles, you are free to speak your mind (in various ways); however, it's better for everyone if done in a decent manner, as opposed to doing so with an aggressive attitude and outright negative remarks. Which comment do you think btarunr, or anyone else who has any authority on the matter, is more likely to listen to? My polite constructive criticism, or First Strike's comment regarding his "mental conditions"? As for me, while I don't always agree with the way btarunr's news articles are written, I find First Strike's criticism of no (or even negative) value because it was made with derogatory remarks. If he hadn't thrown that comment in, I find it extremely likely that, at least, his original post would not have been deleted, and maybe his criticism would have been heard.
@First Strike is just a user. Some level of propriety is always welcome, but we shouldn't demand it.
Being a writer is a different story. I'm not expecting high ethics or journalism training - it's just a hobbyist website after all, with no "serious", professional media behind it. Still, I believe we should expect more.

Then there's the actual character of TPU. Few years ago it was a news site (and a rather good one). Is it still true today? Hasn't it moved into more opinion-based writing?
You know... there is a demand for such content as well. You are allowed to criticize things you don't like. :)

It's no secret some of TPU writers support a particular chip manufacturer and bash the competition. And I'm not talking about posting the legendary "Advertorial" but the articles we see every day.
When I look at these articles as news, they are often hard to swallow.
But if I treated them as opinion-forming, they would be perfectly acceptable. And I would totally understand: the particular company is clearly catering to PC-tinkerers after all.

I do miss the old TPU in general...
The articles were better. There was way less financial (particularly: stock) babble, less one-sided press releases and less opinions in general. And the tests were better - focused on gaming and OC (strong topics for TPU staff) and less "productivity" nonsense, which just looks kind of forced and silly.
 

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@First Strike is just a user. Some level of propriety is always welcome, but we shouldn't demand it.
Being a writer is a different story. I'm not expecting high ethics or journalism training - it's just a hobbyist website after all, with no "serious", professional media behind it. Still, I believe we should expect more.

"Just a user" or not, my statement still stands. The vast majority of us here at TPU are "just users". ;)

Then there's the actual character of TPU. Few years ago it was a news site (and a rather good one). Is it still true today? Hasn't it moved into more opinion-based writing?
You know... there is a demand for such content as well. You are allowed to criticize things you don't like. :)

It's never been a "news site" to me. Granted we have plenty of that, but it's more than just news. We're a community of people with the same set of interests who come together to have relevant discussions, to really cram it in a nutshell. And, of course, you can criticize things you don't like, but there's a right way and a wrong way to do it, you colossal dumbass. See how that just got nasty? No reason for that. Now, there's plenty of demand for content that isn't strictly news. Remember @R-T-B's "confessions of a miner"? Some people liked it, a lot of people really blasted him for it (even though they were clearly marked editorial!). I think, in this sense, most people would probably like news posts better if they worked the way I described back in post 34. Or maybe not, but I offered my view, in a polite, constructive way, without bashing. I think that's the crux of the issue.

It's no secret some of TPU writers support a particular chip manufacturer and bash the competition. And I'm not talking about posting the legendary "Advertorial" but the articles we see every day.
When I look at these articles as news, they are often hard to swallow.
But if I treated them as opinion-forming, they would be perfectly acceptable. And I would totally understand: the particular company is clearly catering to PC-tinkerers after all.

I haven't really noticed this, except maybe one particular example (something to do with an interview, Intel's "old arch peppered with security issues" was mentioned). It was only a short while ago, but if I were to go back and re-examine the news post, and my own comments, I might feel differently today. Though you and I have had various Intel vs AMD discussions in the past, so I'm sure you know where I stand on that particular subject... but that's not really for this thread. :)

I do miss the old TPU in general...
The articles were better. There was way less financial (particularly: stock) babble, less one-sided press releases and less opinions in general. And the tests were better - focused on gaming and OC (strong topics for TPU staff) and less "productivity" nonsense, which just looks kind of forced and silly.

I still haven't figured this one out. I've publicly (and privately) mentioned that I have certain issues with overly political topics on the site (especially in the news section), which seems to be a rather recent thing. I don't know if politics and tech have just recently become intertwined (at least as much as it has been as of late), or if I'm just more aware of it now, or what... but something definitely feels different to me compared to "old TPU". Aside from that, I think the articles have pretty much stayed the same. There's always been tons of pretty well cut and dry news posts, like "company X announces product Y", "company X is developing something", "a thing happened at a place that produces X components" "dude sets 8.993 gigglehertz record using this hardware", etc. And there's always been "financial babble". Sometimes I try to read something like "Intel releases quarterly results", and my eyes glaze over and the gears in my head begin to experience extremely rapid oxidation while producing awful squeaking and grinding noises, complete with smoke billowing from my ears... but yeah, we've had plenty of those types of articles in the past.

As far as reviews go, they've all been pretty much the same to me, or even improving over the years. There are now more fields of data, or more accurate data, in video card reviews than there has been in earlier years. For example, once upon a time we never saw card power consumption, we only got whole system power consumption, which would give us an idea of what power the card was drawing, but it wasn't as clear as the data we see today, which is exclusive to the card. Such reviews are very gaming focused as well. Sure you get stuff like 3DMARK results, but there's a whole slew of games that get tested, and OC does happen. It's just a lot... less exciting, I guess, with GPU Boost involved.

As for "productivity nonsense", I believe you and I have had that discussion before, as well. The way I see it, to put it bluntly, performance metrics easily get divided between applications that benefit from very high per core performance (yeah, on this site, that's usually gaming, though I do not deny the existence of "productive" programs that don't scale well with huge amounts of cores) and applications that easily scale well with today's processors with heaps of cores. This generally gets lumped into the "productivity" category, as most games still benefit the most from high per core performance as opposed to having loads of cores (though it appears some games are finally taking advantage of many cores), and gaming generally isn't seen as "productive".
 
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Hasn't it moved into more opinion-based writing?
In some situations, yes... I do want opinions! Sometimes a topic comes up and even after reading everything that the review has to say I'm still left scratching my head. In this case I want an opinion from someone who knows more about the subject than I do. So yes, there's IS room for opinions.
 
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