Adventures of the 939 build

Toothless · Sep 28, 2018

So a roomie of mine has given up a socket 939 build since he's getting his X58 rig going. (Being built by me, I'll post pics if you guys want later)

It's a Asus A8N32-SLI, no clue on the CPU yet, 4x1GB Corsair CMX1024-3200C2PT sticks 400mhz CL2 sticks. Stock cooler, wee bit of dust on it, nothing too bad. The question is there anything I should be concerned with on building this thing up? Just go for it or tweaks I should know about? I'll add pics later on when I'm not going to run on 5 hours of sleep.

GoldenX · Sep 28, 2018

Try to avoid going over 1000MHz on the HT. That's as far as I know for 939.

agent_x007 · Sep 28, 2018

Invest in 4x 2GB Reg. ECC for 8GB max. RAM

natr0n · Sep 28, 2018

agent_x007 said:
Invest in 4x 2GB Reg. ECC for 8GB max. RAM

Great idea.

Ruru · Sep 28, 2018

Of course you need to test older cards (GeForce 6 and 7 series) on SLI!

eidairaman1 · Sep 28, 2018

Latest bios updates, certain gpus will give an error 43 i believe too

Durvelle27 · Sep 28, 2018

I have the exact board with a Athlon 64 X2
One thing I’ve ran into is that I can’t get Windows 10 to install on it. Windows 7 runs fine though but I’m also only using 4x1GB DDR

agent_x007 · Sep 28, 2018

You can't get it to install on Windows 10, because you tried 64-bit version (which requires instruction "CompareExchange128", that Athlon 64s doesn't support, untill "F" revision and AM2 socket).
Use 32-bit, it should go through installation.

Melvis · Sep 28, 2018

I still have my original 939 system, FX-57, 2GB DDR500 RAM, and a 9600GT, one of my fav systems of all time, loved it! K8NF9-Ultra Motherboard, shit I remembered lol

Durvelle27 · Sep 28, 2018

agent_x007 said:
You can't get it to install on Windows 10, because you tried 64-bit version (which requires instruction "CompareExchange128", that Athlon 64s doesn't support, untill "F" revision and AM2 socket).
Use 32-bit, it should go through installation.

32Bit is limited to 4GB though

agent_x007 · Sep 28, 2018

You said you are using 4x1GB...

Durvelle27 · Sep 28, 2018

agent_x007 said:
You said you are using 4x1GB...

Yes but with plans to up it

But you do also know even with 4GB 32Bit Windows would not allow access to the full 4GB only 3-3.5GB

hat · Sep 28, 2018

Not good enough! Memory from the graphics card also takes up that 4GB space, among other things. Even if you had a system with no video card at all to take away from that, you still wouldn't quite have 4GB available... if you really have to use 32 bit, you're better off with 3GB system ram and a 1GB graphics card at most, and even then something is gonna lose out somewhere. But then, wouldn't PAE be an option?

I wonder what would happen if I tried to install a 32 bit OS on my system, with 8GB system ram, and two GTX1070s weighing in at 8GB a piece...

Durvelle27 · Sep 28, 2018

hat said:
Not good enough! Memory from the graphics card also takes up that 4GB space, among other things. Even if you had a system with no video card at all to take away from that, you still wouldn't quite have 4GB available... if you really have to use 32 bit, you're better off with 3GB system ram and a 1GB graphics card at most, and even then something is gonna lose out somewhere. But then, wouldn't PAE be an option?

I wonder what would happen if I tried to install a 32 bit OS on my system, with 8GB system ram, and two GTX1070s weighing in at 8GB a piece...

I have a

Athlon 64 X2 4200+
ASUS A8N32-SLI
Corsair 4GB(4x1GB) DDR
EVGA GTX 260
Antec 450W

With Windows 7 64bit and it allows full 4GB usage, no allocations

hat · Sep 28, 2018

Well... yeah, cause you're running 64 bit. We'll probably blow ourselves up before we run out of memory address space with 64 bit...

Durvelle27 · Sep 28, 2018

hat said:
Well... yeah, cause you're running 64 bit. We'll probably blow ourselves up before we run out of memory address space with 64 bit...

Which is why I refuse to use 32Bit

But system runs pretty good. Using a Zalmon Low Profile Cooler it never gets very hot. Pretty snappy for such a old plateform

Toothless · Sep 28, 2018

So try Win10, both types. If that doesn't work slap win7 on?

delshay · Sep 28, 2018

GoldenX said:
Try to avoid going over 1000MHz on the HT. That's as far as I know for 939.

I'm still building my 939 system & the HT even when overclocked has zero effect on stability overclocked or not.
it's more to do with the quality of the core(s).

If you need screenshot of proof, I can do this with 4000+, FX55. FX57 & FX60, just ask & you shall receive, take your pick of processor, all HT clocked beyond 1000MHz.

agent_x007 · Sep 28, 2018

hat said:
Not good enough! Memory from the graphics card also takes up that 4GB space, among other things. Even if you had a system with no video card at all to take away from that, you still wouldn't quite have 4GB available... if you really have to use 32 bit, you're better off with 3GB system ram and a 1GB graphics card at most, and even then something is gonna lose out somewhere. But then, wouldn't PAE be an option?

I wonder what would happen if I tried to install a 32 bit OS on my system, with 8GB system ram, and two GTX1070s weighing in at 8GB a piece...

Basic idea :

Advanced version

GTX 1080 + Celeron 2,0A :

Modern PCIe GPUs always take 256MB of physical memory.
With SLI, you would get 2.99GB usable (or a bit less depending on BIOS/MB).

theonek · Sep 28, 2018

single core cpu with a gtx1080 - yes!!!

agent_x007 · Sep 28, 2018

theonek said:
single core cpu with a gtx1080 - yes!!!

Single core is easy (Disable cores + HT on modern stuff and you are good to go

).
32-bit only (ie. older than Prescott) though... That is a challange

Durvelle27 · Sep 28, 2018

Toothless said:
So try Win10, both types. If that doesn't work slap win7 on?

I just run Windows 7 Home 64bit. No issues here and has drivers under vista that works

ZenZimZaliben · Sep 28, 2018

Opteron 185, pretty sure I got my Opt 165 running at 3ghz way back in the day on water cooling.

hat · Sep 28, 2018

GTX1080 with a 2GHz celeron...

I had a 2GHz celeron before... it was pretty bad. I also remember wanting the socket 478 P4EE cause I was young and couldn't afford anything myself, and I thought that would be the best I could do for a while...

Melvis · Sep 29, 2018

What CPU is in your 939 system?

I think I have a few spare here, 3700 Sandi Core and some 3200's.

I did run for many yrs a 4800+ on a GA-K8NF9 Sli Motherboard with 8600GT's but since sold them all off.

System Name	Veral
Processor	7800x3D
Motherboard	x670e Asus Crosshair Hero
Cooling	Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO
Memory	2x24 Klevv Cras V RGB
Video Card(s)	Powercolor 7900XTX Red Devil
Storage	Crucial P5 Plus 1TB, Samsung 980 1TB, Teamgroup MP34 4TB
Display(s)	Acer Nitro XZ342CK Pbmiiphx, 2x AOC 2425W, AOC I1601FWUX
Case	Fractal Design Meshify Lite 2
Audio Device(s)	Blue Yeti + SteelSeries Arctis 5 / Samsung HW-T550
Power Supply	Corsair HX850
Mouse	Corsair Harpoon
Keyboard	Corsair K55
VR HMD	HP Reverb G2
Software	Windows 11 Professional
Benchmark Scores	PEBCAK

System Name	Ciel / Akane
Processor	AMD Ryzen R5 5600X / Intel Core i3 12100F
Motherboard	Asus Tuf Gaming B550 Plus / Biostar H610MHP
Cooling	ID-Cooling 224-XT Basic / Stock
Memory	2x 16GB Kingston Fury 3600MHz / 2x 8GB Patriot 3200MHz
Video Card(s)	Gainward Ghost RTX 3060 Ti / Dell GTX 1660 SUPER
Storage	NVMe Kingston KC3000 2TB + NVMe Toshiba KBG40ZNT256G + HDD WD 4TB / NVMe WD Blue SN550 512GB
Display(s)	AOC Q27G3XMN / Samsung S22F350
Case	Cougar MX410 Mesh-G / Generic
Audio Device(s)	Kingston HyperX Cloud Stinger Core 7.1 Wireless PC
Power Supply	Aerocool KCAS-500W / Gigabyte P450B
Mouse	EVGA X15 / Logitech G203
Keyboard	VSG Alnilam / Dell
Software	Windows 11

System Name	BOX
Processor	Core i7 6950X @ 4,26GHz (1,28V)
Motherboard	X99 SOC Champion (BIOS F23c + bifurcation mod)
Cooling	Thermalright Venomous-X + 2x Delta 38mm PWM (Push-Pull)
Memory	Patriot Viper Steel 4000MHz CL16 4x8GB (@3240MHz CL12.12.12.24 CR2T @ 1,48V)
Video Card(s)	Titan V (~1650MHz @ 0.77V, HBM2 1GHz, Forced P2 state [OFF])
Storage	WD SN850X 2TB + Samsung EVO 2TB (SATA) + Seagate Exos X20 20TB (4Kn mode)
Display(s)	LG 27GP950-B
Case	Fractal Design Meshify 2 XL
Audio Device(s)	Motu M4 (audio interface) + ATH-A900Z + Behringer C-1
Power Supply	Seasonic X-760 (760W)
Mouse	Logitech RX-250
Keyboard	HP KB-9970
Software	Windows 10 Pro x64

System Name	natr0n-PC
Processor	Ryzen 5950x-5600x \| 9600k
Motherboard	B450 AORUS M \| Z390 UD
Cooling	EK AIO 360 - 6 fan action \| AIO
Memory	Patriot - Viper Steel DDR4 (B-Die)(4x8GB) \| Samsung DDR4 (4x8GB)
Video Card(s)	EVGA 3070ti FTW
Storage	Various
Display(s)	Pixio PX279 Prime
Case	Thermaltake Level 20 VT \| Black bench
Audio Device(s)	LOXJIE D10 + Kinter Amp + 6 Bookshelf Speakers Sony+JVC+Sony
Power Supply	Super Flower Leadex III ARGB 80+ Gold 650W \| EVGA 700 Gold
Software	XP/7/8.1/10
Benchmark Scores	http://valid.x86.fr/79kuh6

System Name	4K-gaming / console
Processor	5800X @ PBO +200 / i5-8600K @ 4.6GHz
Motherboard	ROG Crosshair VII Hero / ROG Strix Z370-F
Cooling	Alphacool Eisbaer 360 / Alphacool Eisbaer 240
Memory	32GB DDR4-3466 / 16GB DDR4-3600
Video Card(s)	Asus RTX 3080 TUF OC / Powercolor RX 6700 XT
Storage	3.5TB of SSDs / several small SSDs
Display(s)	4K120 IPS + 4K60 IPS / 1080p60 HDTV
Case	Corsair 4000D AF White / DeepCool CC560 WH
Audio Device(s)	Sony WH-CH720N / TV speakers
Power Supply	EVGA G2 750W / Fractal ION Gold 550W
Mouse	Razer Basilisk / Logitech G400s
Keyboard	Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO / NOS C450 Mini Pro
VR HMD	Oculus Rift CV1
Software	Windows 11 Pro / Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores	They run Crysis

Adventures of the 939 build

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Melvis

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Processor	AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard	Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling	Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory	16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s)	AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage	Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s)	NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case	AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s)	Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply	Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse	Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard	Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software	Windows 7 Pro 64

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Processor	\|
Cooling	Thermalright PA120 SE \|
Storage	Sandisk X300 512GB + WD Black 6TB+WD Black 6TB
Display(s)	LG Nanocell85 49" 4K 120Hz + ACER AOPEN 34" 3440x1440 144Hz
Case	DeepCool Matrexx 55 V3 w/ 6x120mm Intake + 3x120mm Exhaust
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Mouse	Logitech Trackman
Keyboard	Logitech K350
Software	Windows 10 EDU x64

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Cooling	Noctua U9S Twin Fan\| Stock Cooler, Copper Core)\| Big shairkan B
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Power Supply	Silverstone 850 \| Silverstone Mini 450W \| Corsair CX-750
Mouse	Coolermaster Pro \| Rapoo V900 \| Gigabyte 6850X
Keyboard	MAX Keyboard Nighthawk X8 \| Creative Fatal1ty eluminx \| Some POS Logitech
Software	Windows 10 Pro 64 \| Windows 10 Pro 64 \| Windows 7 Pro 64/Windows 10 Home

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Motherboard	ASUS P8P67 Pro :: ASUS Prime H570-Plus
Cooling	Cryorig M9 :: Stock
Memory	4x4GB DDR3 2133 :: 2x8GB DDR4 2400
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Power Supply	FSP Hydro GE 550w :: EVGA Supernova 550
Software	Windows 10 Pro - Plex Server on Dragonfly
Benchmark Scores	>9000

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Processor	Intel i9-9900KF/ Dual Ryzen 7 2700X
Motherboard	Asrock Z390 Taichi Ultimate/ Dual Asrock X370 Proffesional Gaming
Cooling	Noctua NH-C14S/ Arctic Xtreme Freezer/ Ryzen Wraith Prysm RGB
Memory	64GB Corsair Vengeance PRO RGB 3200/ 32GB Corsair Dominator 3000/ 16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro 3200
Video Card(s)	EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra / MSI RTX 2080Ti Ventus / EVGA GTX 1060 SC Gaming
Storage	Dual 970 EVO Plus 1TB + 6Tb 860 EVO/ 960 EVO 500GB + 18Tb R0/ 840EVO 250Gb + 16Tb R0
Display(s)	Samsung 32" U32R590 Curved 3480x2160 / Samsung 32" LC32H711 Curved 2560x1440 Freesync
Case	Cooler Master Stacker 830 NV Edition/ Dual Cooler Master 690 Advance II
Audio Device(s)	Creative X-Fi Surround 5.1 SBX/ Creative X-Fi Titanium Pci-E/ On-board Realtek
Power Supply	Triple Corsair Platinum HX850i
Mouse	Logitech G7 WL / Logitech G903 Lightspeed / MS BT 8000
Keyboard	Dual Logitech G19s
Software	Win10 Pro

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Processor	AMD 7800x3d 5050Mhz / Intel 10700kf (5.1ghz All Core)
Motherboard	ASrock x670e Taichi / ROG Strix z490-e gaming
Cooling	HeatKiller VI CPU/GPU Block -2xBlackIce GTX 360 Radiators - Swiftech MCP655 Pump
Memory	32GB G.Skill 6000Mhz DDR5 / 32GB G.Skill 3400Mhz DDR4
Video Card(s)	Nvidia 3090ti / Nvidia 2080ti
Storage	Crucial T700 2TB Gen 5 / Samsung Evo 2Tb
Display(s)	Acer Predator xb271hu - 2560x1440 @144hz
Case	Corsiar 550
Audio Device(s)	on board
Power Supply	Antec Quattro 1000W
Mouse	Logitech G502
Keyboard	Corsair Gaming k70
Software	Windows 10 Pro 64bit