After a Windows 10 Update Today Overclocking is lost. WTF Microsoft and Intel???

[MrGenius]

Are you sure the same will apply to X99 platforms with Broadwell-E CPUs, since they are the configurations to be mostly affected by the KB4100347 update and the Windows 10 1809 October build.

No. I'm not sure at all about that. But there's also another method to try(R-T-B's package) for those CPUs.

 

[quimsy]

The most recent BIOS for my Asus X-99 is dead stable & protects against Spectre/Meltdown without slowdown.
So mcupdate_GenuineIntel.dll surplus to requirements on machines with updated BIOSs, worse it slows ur machine down.
I get that most windows users will have outdated BIOSs & 'need' the microcode updates but for punters that don't an option to override from MS would of saved hours of headache.

 

[Gripen90]

I can CONFIRM that the latest BIOS update for my MSI X99S SLI KRAIT Edition board the overclocking with KB4100347 and Windows 10 Build 1809 WORKS !. I wrote to MSI support and they confirm that for their X99 platforms all BIOS's dated back to June 2018 are equipped with the latest Intel microcode update

 

[dorsetknob]

Day two – and Windows 10 October 2018 Update trips over Intel audio
link
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/04/microsoft_windows_10_1809_audio/

and the Beta testing goes on

 

[R-T-B]

Day two – and Windows 10 October 2018 Update trips over Intel audio
link
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/04/microsoft_windows_10_1809_audio/

and the Beta testing goes on

Unrelated to the OCing woes my friend.

 

[dorsetknob]

Unrelated to the OCing woes my friend.

Related to the latest update tho............ and we know how these updates bork some peoples system's

 

[R-T-B]

Related to the latest update tho............ and we know how these updates bork some peoples system's

We have the update news thread for that. Just trying to keep the topic focused.

 

[catch36]

There is a incompatibility with the Itel microcode used in Windows 10 and the microcode in the bios if it has not been updated. This can be fixed by updating the the latest Intel uCode into the bios. You do not have to modify anything at the Windows OS level like modifying the mcupdate_GenuineIntel.dll.

A user at the Win-Raid forums (Sylar) has modified the latest bioses for the Asus Rampage V Extreme and Ed. 10 x99 motherboard with the latest Intel microcode. 2E for Broadwell-e and 3D for Haswell-e. I have used his modified 1902 bios with a i7-6950 with no problems and does not break my overclock. There are also instruction by a user at the Asus Rog forums on how to modified a x99 bios to include the the lastest Ucode using a toll called UBU.

Win-Raid Forum link:
https://www.win-raid.com/t1893f44-OFFER-ASUS-Rampage-V-Extreme-modded-BIOSes.html

Asus Rog Forum Link:
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthre...ions-for-updating-the-BIOS-file-CPU-microcode

 

[R-T-B]

There is a incompatibility with the Itel microcode used in Windows 10 and the microcode in the bios if it has not been updated. This can be fixed by updating the the latest Intel uCode into the bios. You do not have to modify anything at the Windows OS level like modifying the mcupdate_GenuineIntel.dll.

A user at the Win-Raid forums (Sylar) has modified the latest bioses for the Asus Rampage V Extreme and Ed. 10 x99 motherboard with the latest Intel microcode. 2E for Broadwell-e and 3D for Haswell-e. I have used his modified 1902 bios with a i7-6950 with no problems and does not break my overclock. There are also instruction by a user at the Asus Rog forums on how to modified a x99 bios to include the the lastest Ucode using a toll called UBU.

Win-Raid Forum link:
https://www.win-raid.com/t1893f44-OFFER-ASUS-Rampage-V-Extreme-modded-BIOSes.html

Asus Rog Forum Link:
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthre...ions-for-updating-the-BIOS-file-CPU-microcode

That is the approach I would use, but many are hesitant to mod a bios. Hence my attempts to find a software solution that does not break sfc /scannow.

 

[MrGenius]

It's a matter of what's easier to do...for me. I have no idea how to mod a motherboard BIOS. If I did...I would. But if learning how is anywhere near as complicated/difficult as modding a graphics card BIOS...I don't want no part of it. I mean I'd love it if someone could teach me all I needed to know about it. But when it comes down to teaching myself...as it usually does with these types of things...forget about it. I don't see the time and effort involved being worth the potential benefits. How many times have I, personally, ever had any real need for a modded motherboard BIOS? Answer = 0 times to date. This is the only time I've even had to find a workaround. And I've been messing around with computers pretty much my entire life. More or less. Started at age 9, and I'll be 43 in about a week.

 

[xkm1948]

I am blocking the update for now. Work is too valuable to have any down time.

 

[biffzinker]

It's actually easy to do a microcode update with UBU Tool, I've done it a few times in past for the Xeon 1240 V2, don't remember the brand for the board. As rock?

https://www.win-raid.com/t154f16-Tool-Guide-News-quot-UEFI-BIOS-Updater-quot-UBU.html

 

[MrGenius]

Nope! I clicked the link and glanced over the first post. Not having it. Gave me an instant brainache. NOT AT ALL what I call easy. None of that shit over on win-raid is IMO.

 

[biffzinker]

I'm fairly certain you could handle just updating the microcode yourself. I was a bit unsure of it myself but managed from starting to finish. The batch file does walk you through the process.

Helps to have a flasher on hand just in case.

 

[Gripen90]

It really sucks that Asus don't update their BIOS to the X99 platform

... or EVGA for that matter.

MSI wrote to me that the new Intel Microcode was implemented into all X99 BIOS versions from June 2018, so users shouldn't experience any issues.


I checked some Gigabyte board and it is not all boards that have a new Intel microcode BIOS update available.
Heres a handfull of Gigabyte boards that I checked have the latest Intel microcode BIOS update to download.
GA-X99P-SLI
GA-X99-SOC Champion
GA-X99-UD3
GA-X99M-Gaming 5
GA-X99-Designare EX
GA-X99-Ultra Gaming
GA-X99-UD4P
GA-X99-SLI
GA-X99-Phoenix SLI
GA-X99-UD5 WIFI

As for ASRock all X99 boards should have updated Intel microcodes ready for download. These boards I have checked have new BIOS microcode updates.
X99 Extreme3
X99 Extreme4
X99 Extreme6
X99 WS
X99 OC Formula/3.1
X99 Taichi
Fatal1ty X99 Professional/3.1
X99 Extreme11
Fatal1ty X99M Killer
Fatal1ty X99X Killer

 

[rkt]

I have the latest bios 3.80 (2018-04-10 Update Haswell-E CPU Microcode to revision 3C and Broadwell-E CPU Microcode to revision 0B00002A.) on my Asrock x99 extreme4, but the update KB4100347 destroys my overclock on I7 6850k. Still waiting fo October update...

 

[Gripen90]

I have the latest bios 3.80 (2018-04-10 Update Haswell-E CPU Microcode to revision 3C and Broadwell-E CPU Microcode to revision 0B00002A.) on my Asrock x99 extreme4, but the update KB4100347 destroys my overclock on I7 6850k. Still waiting fo October update...

Hmm that sucks though - it should have been resolved in that update.

 

[Sawyer86]

Waiting for a correction from Asus, or Intel, or Microsoft, i solved by using a different oc :
I was 100x44 multiplier and this "bug" puts me in 100x37.
So i set in the bios 125x35 and i run at 4375 without problems.
It seems a microcode bug about multiplier.
bye

 

[xkm1948]

Waiting for a correction from Asus, or Intel, or Microsoft, i solved by using a different oc :
I was 100x44 multiplier and this "bug" puts me in 100x37.
So i set in the bios 125x35 and i run at 4375 without problems.
It seems a microcode bug about multiplier.
bye

Good work around for people confident in BCLK overclocking

 

[erpguy53]

I have the latest bios 3.80 (2018-04-10 Update Haswell-E CPU Microcode to revision 3C and Broadwell-E CPU Microcode to revision 0B00002A.) on my Asrock x99 extreme4, but the update KB4100347 destroys my overclock on I7 6850k. Still waiting fo October update...

which version of KB4100347? there were at least 3 revisions of this update; the V3 revision of KB4100347 was released in September 2018.

and KB4100347 is for the v1803 edition of Win10 only

 

[rkt]

which version of KB4100347? there were at least 3 revisions of this update; the V3 revision of KB4100347 was released in September 2018.

and KB4100347 is for the v1803 edition of Win10 only

This issue appeared in the beginning of September, I suspected a windows update - searching I found this forum and blocking KB4100347 saves my overclock. My Win 10 pro is v1803. Don’t know what will happen after October update.

 

[MrGenius]

In my opinion just updating the operating system should not be able to affect your overclocked BIOS settings, but if your overclock was not 100% stable you probably have Data file corruption, that's why I suggested a reinstall of the graphics drivers. You possibly could have file corruption in the downloaded update and if you do you could try doing a restore back before the update to get rid of it. Hope it helps.

What? No. That's definitely not it. It's not a mystery what's really going on here BTW. We've got it all figured out. So why don't you try reading the thread next time...before posting random nonsense? Thanks!

 

[Mussels]

sorry trav, but you're made a very strange claim about something we clearly know the reasons for.

 

[R-T-B]

sorry trav, but you're made a very strange claim about something we clearly know the reasons for.

and now has a banner advertisement in his sig... is that even allowed?

 

[Mussels]

he's gone - banners and weblinks were pure advertising