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[Toothless]

What do you use your Server for @Toothless ?? I got the name reference having not long watched that great film!! Cool name

Having recently bought some X5675's I'll post up a bit later how that went........ or would it be, how it didn't go??

Right now it's running three virtual machines, and about 30-32 threads on WCG. It has SAS connectors so I can even have it be a storage server on top of everything else. Pretty nifty.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I'm wondering though which processor on the motherboard is CPU #1, the one on the board itself or the one on the riser board? (I was planning to redo the thermal paste on it.)

The one on the riser. The one on the board is CPU 0. I'd redo that TIM if you haven't already..

 

[Regeneration]

So today I over clocked a x5675 to 4.51ghz and so far it's stable under every stress test and game. It took me awhile (as always) to dial in the settings but I finally did it!! Anyways I want to post my settings so any pros can look them over and see if I can potentially lower any settings to increase longetivity, mind you in the pic I have already lowered IOH to 1.16, also I'm only running dual channel ram (2x8gb 2400mhz G.Skill) and I have been informed that I don't need to have my unclck so high cuz of this (if I try to bump up unclck it will fail)

Not trying to dbl post here!! I made a thread not realizing this was the proper place to ask!! If a mod can delete my original thread I'd appreciate it!!View attachment 108901

1. Vcore is too high for 24/7
2. C1E should be disabled for static vcore
3. Lower PLL to stock voltage
4. IOH should be boosted only if you have several graphics cards or at extreme BCLK
5. DDR is downclocked to 1964 MHz
6. Stress test CPU and QPI/DRAM separately (Linpack, Prime95 large FFTs)
7. There is no need to disable PCIE Spread Spectrum

 

[phill]

Right now it's running three virtual machines, and about 30-32 threads on WCG. It has SAS connectors so I can even have it be a storage server on top of everything else. Pretty nifty.

If it's not a problem in asking, what do you use your virtual machines for? Do you use VM Ware? I have SAS drives here as well, using them as just storage for the moment but my main server upstairs (well Synology) just sits there with the majority of my storage
Hoping to get a few more server at some point... But we'll see

 

[Toothless]

If it's not a problem in asking, what do you use your virtual machines for? Do you use VM Ware? I have SAS drives here as well, using them as just storage for the moment but my main server upstairs (well Synology) just sits there with the majority of my storage
Hoping to get a few more server at some point... But we'll see

They're running helpers for a game. I have 40 accounts that are automated for farming and troop making, all done via VMware. Each VM gets 4 threads and 8gb of ram.

 

[phill]

They're running helpers for a game. I have 40 accounts that are automated for farming and troop making, all done via VMware. Each VM gets 4 threads and 8gb of ram.

Wow Bet that keeps the CPU's a little busy!!
The one server downstairs just is used for WCG, as it's an older R710 it's not the most power efficient but, it works

I've been using it to help me with work and learning VMWare as I'm hoping to get a little more in-depth in that field later on in my career

 

[FireFox]

I'm hoping to get a little more in-depth in that field later on in my career

That makes me think you're young

 

[phill]

That makes me think you're young

At 38 I wouldn't describe myself as young as such but having just got into IT over a year ago, I'm very much looking forward to something other than desktop support

 

[FireFox]

38

I bet one of my SR-2 + 2 x X5690 and a 2080 GPU if you get before me to 45

 

[Toothless]

Wow Bet that keeps the CPU's a little busy!!
The one server downstairs just is used for WCG, as it's an older R710 it's not the most power efficient but, it works

I've been using it to help me with work and learning VMWare as I'm hoping to get a little more in-depth in that field later on in my career

In theory the VMs only use 1-2 threads at most on normal usage, but I've seen them load 8 threads upon launch with autostart.

 

[phill]

I bet one of my SR-2 + 2 x X5690 and a 2080 GPU if you get before me to 45

Well depends on how old you are at the moment!! But I couldn't bet on it without boxed goodies I'm afraid I'd love another SR-2 but there's very few out there at the moment. One on ebay but I'm not sure if it's got any boxes with it and I'm sorry, but I can't buy hardware now without any boxes

In theory the VMs only use 1-2 threads at most on normal usage, but I've seen them load 8 threads upon launch with autostart.

Ah WCG sure puts pay to that All 24 threads go on my R710 and my SR-2 Love seeing them go for it! They run so cool as well, recently I haven't seen my SR-2 temps hitting past 40C under a full days load of WCG.. I'm happy with that

Oh that reminds me, my little story of the two X5675's I bought... Best grab some pictures I'll be right back

Right, so a little while ago, I ordered a pair of X5675's for my SR-2, I thought I'd give it a little speed upgrade from my X5650's.. At around £60 for a pair of them, I thought I'd like to get me those... So I ordered through Ebay and waited for the delivery date...

Having arrived at the beginning of the month, I thought it was high time I installed them into the rig and got it up and tested...


Well, here's a few pics...

Received in boxes..

Look ok from here...

Installed and ready to go....

Up and running...

Wait a minute... Why only 20Gb of ram?? That's a little odd...... Lets have a look at the CPUs....

Ummm... Me thinks they a little bent!!
In fact both CPUs were looking a little like banananananana's...... Which kinda didn't work as well as I'd have hoped... So back went in the two X5650's....

Yep, 24Gb just as before...

I've emailed the seller and said about the problem, so I've now got to send them back to him and then wait for another pair to show up.. Ugh.... Hind sight, I'll be checking them out in the server rather than the SR-2.. Heck of a lot easier to swap heatsinks around rather than bloody water cooling blocks and pumps and such! Damn water cooling!!

Still no damage done to the SR-2 and temps seems a little better in that not quite so nice 900D case it's installed in... So, on to the next pair of X5675's....... I'll keep you posted

 

[Edwired]

Jeez that abit nasty to look at by the shape of the cpu. It must have fell off a building site. I havent seen that in a long time. Only once i got intel cpu missing a fuse or resistor on the bottem of it it one of the big one as it wouldnt post or nothing

 

[Aaron_Henderson]

An old 1U server to desktop conversion I did quite awhile back...dual X5450, 8GB FB-DIMM, used PCIe x16 extension, and tapped into the backplane power socket to get 1 x 6pin and 1 x 8-pin PCIe power cables...removed backplane, added PCIe sata controller...removed redundant PSU and installed 2.5" drives in the same space it used to occupy. All in all...just experimenting with a server I picked up for $20...have done plenty more typical server and workstation based builds. Dimensions without the small stand, GPU and 120mm fans is about 13.5" x 13.5" x 1.75"

 

[king of swag187]

Alrighty lads, I'm meeting up with someone later this week to buy my own X58 Clevo X7200 Laptop
Yep, X58 in a laptop
Specs are 12GB RAM 500GB HDD 460M SLI and of course, an i7 970 which will be swapped out for a X5675

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Alrighty lads, I'm meeting up with someone later this week to buy my own X58 Clevo X7200 Laptop
Yep, X58 in a laptop
Specs are 12GB RAM 500GB HDD 460M SLI and of course, an i7 970 which will be swapped out for a X5675

Same as me : D, Let me know if you can overclock / adjust voltage with that x5675 thanks. Also how much are you paying? I got mine for £210 and running 4gb ddr3 1333mhz 750gb seagate 460m sli now and a x5650

 

[Edwired]

An old 1U server to desktop conversion I did quite awhile back...dual X5450, 8GB FB-DIMM, used PCIe x16 extension, and tapped into the backplane power socket to get 1 x 6pin and 1 x 8-pin PCIe power cables...removed backplane, added PCIe sata controller...removed redundant PSU and installed 2.5" drives in the same space it used to occupy. All in all...just experimenting with a server I picked up for $20...have done plenty more typical server and workstation based builds. Dimensions without the small stand, GPU and 120mm fans is about 13.5" x 13.5" x 1.75"

View attachment 109160

Love the idea of the graphic card outside the case looks pretty cool

 

[Aaron_Henderson]

It would only fit a small single slot card on the inside of the case, so this was pretty much a necessity that also happened to turn out looking kind of cool. Thanks for the comment!

 

[lexluthermiester]

Love the idea of the graphic card outside the case looks pretty cool

Same here. That is a very eye-catching look.

It would only fit a small single slot card on the inside of the case, so this was pretty much a necessity that also happened to turn out looking kind of cool. Thanks for the comment!

It really does look very interesting and cool.

 

[Edwired]

Did you use the pcie extention ?

 

[mathomas112483]

1. Vcore is too high for 24/7
2. C1E should be disabled for static vcore
3. Lower PLL to stock voltage
4. IOH should be boosted only if you have several graphics cards or at extreme BCLK
5. DDR is downclocked to 1964 MHz
6. Stress test CPU and QPI/DRAM separately (Linpack, Prime95 large FFTs)
7. There is no need to disable PCIE Spread Spectrum

ok cpl of questions...

what is considered stock PLL V? im running a 23x multi cuz i cant lock in 25 (im guessing its a board limit? ive seen others set a 25multi on a 5675) so its a 196 bclck, so about the RAM, its 2400mhz DDR3 are you saying its down clocked because its only at 1964? is it possible to up the unclck to take advantage of it at past 2k? every time i try to take ram to next level (like 2300) it wont boot. also what is a good vcore to aim for (i know this is cpu dependent) how much should i back it down by? like what kinda increments

im new to really OCing this setup (even tho i had a similar way back when)

 

[Regeneration]

ok cpl of questions...

what is considered stock PLL V? im running a 23x multi cuz i cant lock in 25 (im guessing its a board limit? ive seen others set a 25multi on a 5675) so its a 196 bclck, so about the RAM, its 2400mhz DDR3 are you saying its down clocked because its only at 1964? is it possible to up the unclck to take advantage of it at past 2k? every time i try to take ram to next level (like 2300) it wont boot. also what is a good vcore to aim for (i know this is cpu dependent) how much should i back it down by? like what kinda increments

im new to really OCing this setup (even tho i had a similar way back when)

Every CPU and motherboard has its own limits. It's all a matter of luck.

On Westmere, UCLK to RAM ratio can be lower then x2, normally its suppose to be x1.5 (DDR 2400 = UCLK 3600). If it won't boot, maybe the DDR timings on the BIOS are incorrect and need to be entered manually. QPI/DRAM Core Voltage is the main factor for UCLK and maximum of 1.312v on air cooling for 24/7.

Default PLL is 1.8v, maximum recommended vcore with for 24/7 is 1.35v (with air cooling) *BUT* Loadline calibration also has to be taken into consideration, since it boosts voltage during load, vcore around 1.33v is optimal for long-term use.

BCLK 200 or 171 should be optimal for DDR 2400. If the system won't boot at 200, try to increase PCIE frequency by 1-3 MHz but no more then that.

 

[mathomas112483]

Every CPU and motherboard has its own limits. It's all a matter of luck.

On Westmere, UCLK to RAM ratio can be lower then x2, normally its suppose to be x1.5 (DDR 2400 = UCLK 3600). If it won't boot, maybe the DDR timings on the BIOS are incorrect and need to be entered manually. QPI/DRAM Core Voltage is the main factor for UCLK and maximum of 1.312v on air cooling for 24/7.

Default PLL is 1.8v, maximum recommended vcore with for 24/7 is 1.35v (with air cooling) *BUT* Loadline calibration also has to be taken into consideration, since it boosts voltage during load, vcore around 1.33v is optimal for long-term use.

BCLK 200 or 171 should be optimal for DDR 2400. If the system won't boot at 200, try to increase PCIE frequency by 1-3 MHz but no more then that.

ok awesome!!! i will def try these things tomorrow on my day off, im on watercooling and seemingly temps are pretty in check, I have a full board waterblock, but waiting on a few parts to implement, the CPU for now is got a 240aio on it (this is a super classic build, I went all out!!) CPL of quick questions, so assuming 1.33 vcore, me getting 4.5ghz out of it is entirely luck? Dependant on that I may only get 4.2-4.4?? Also yeah I think the ram timings def need to be adjusted, I'm running 10,10,10,31, someone had recommended that. i asked these questions cuz i knew i had stuff cranked too high for 24/7 use!!! i will update tomorrow with what happens and if i have any more questions!!! Hoping to maintain 4.5 if it lets me, would love to hit 4.6, but hey...it's all good!!!

 

[Edwired]

here my settings and other details on overclocks and temps dont mind the gpu temp as i just needed the max boost clock to show all this on e5450, asus p5q premium, asus gtx 750ti oc as the intel burn test is used to get max temp and vcore and aida64 for memory and cache benchmark. Any questions feel free to ask

I did try for 1186mhz @ 2.10v (bios) 2.30v (dmm) on all 4 dimms was able to post in windows did try for aida64 to bench memory and cache but i was losing read, write, copy performance in a big way. I was kinda thinking the fsb:dram ratio was either too tight or wasnt stable. More tweaking is needed. I dont know of anyone with a motherboard which have all 4 dimm fully populated to achieve 1200mhz of ddr2 ram. It would be nice if there was some record on overclocking site to show some info

 

[mathomas112483]

Ok so here is current situation...I lowered all the settings to what you recommend and we are at 4.4ghz@1.33vcore pll is 1.8, bclck is 193 uclck is like at it's lowest setting and so is ram, dram voltage is at 1.64 (I tried running 1.65 btw with many combinations) if I try to raise ram to say 1924 and uclck to be 1.5x that with 1.65dramv it won't post, I have tried allot of diff timings, I can get it to windows with 1924 ram uclck at 2886 or one up from that at 10,10,10,31 2n, but now I'm having allot of page fault errors (this actually maybe AV malfunctioning) but I'm having alot of trouble with ram and I need help lol...I ideally want to keep this 4.4ghz I really just want my ram at like 2300-2400 if it's possible...I feel allot of it is timings but I don't really understand how to figure those out!?!?

 

[Edwired]

Well im not sure what be causing the problem on your computer but page fault error is related to ram timing but i dont know about the ram timing spec on the ram you are using. But do check online about the ram you have. And again cpu, motherboard and ram do have limit but they all react differently when overclocking. You can keep 4.4ghz but lower the ram speed as you have to balance for performance and stability as that would be my guess. I could get 1200mhz on gskill f2-8500cl5-2gbpk with 4 dimms fully populated on asus p5q premium but it very unstable but i have to settle for 1069mhz while keeping the 4ghz on e5450. Theres infomation online that tells you which each timing does. As more ram is use the higher the trfc needs to be bump up. As on my board according to memset the trfc needs to be 52 that standard but the ram spd spec states trfc 68 as asus bios rounds the number to 70. But do get aida64 to get the spd spec which will tell you what timing is been used