Rare GPUs / Unreleased GPUs

[Fouquin]

I still dont get why gpu compagnies give lower numerical number to newer card. Shouldnt it follow like version numbers?

It does follow version numbers. The leading number is the generation designation for the most part, and in some cases a prefix denotes a series. So the Radeon HD series started at 2000, where the Radeon series started at 7000. Radeon HD is a later series of products, denoted by the HD after Radeon. Furthermore, nVidia and ATi/AMD have always had different number conventions at any given time, so while the GeForce FX 5200 was new the corresponding ATi product was the Radeon 9200. So despite the Radeon HD 4350 PCI actually having a lower number, the way to read it is Radeon HD (Product series) 4 (generation of series) 350 (market/performance position) which points to it being a newer product than the GeForce FX 5200 PCI.

As for the reason numbers bounce around, it's because a series can be run to the furthest extent of the numerical system and need to be refreshed. For example when nVidia ran up to GeForce 9800 GTX, rather than release a 10800 they reconfigured their naming system entirely by swapping the suffix (GTX) to be a prefix to the numeral, and restarted from a lower number leading to the official market successor of the 9800 GTX being the GTX 280.

 

[GoldenX]

Now why AMD decided to jump from HD 7000/8000 to Rx 200, that's a mystery.

 

[Face2Face]

nice do you have an HD cam that can take the frontals the gpudb uses? and do you plan on taking off the cooler? if so can you clean off the die and take an HD pic of it?

but first a gpuz screenshot

Here's everything you've requested. This card does in a Windows PC. I tried a couple different driver versions and I ended up with the 9.10. Also, here is a picture of the PCI bracket which is typically found on Apple Radeon cards. Also, there is no S-Video on this card and it has 2 X 6-Pin PEG connectors. The card came from a California based Mac Pro. Nothing else is known about it's existence.

I have the BIOS file, just let me know how you want me to send it to you.

Thanks!
F2F Tech

More pics if anyone is interested Also note, the GPU fan speed is static at 31% - Doesn't move and the GPU temp never got above 67c. This is with a fresh application of TIM.

 

[ne6togadno]

http://www.sapphiretech.com/search.asp?kw=hd+3870&lang=eng

https://www.asus.com/search/results...ategory=Graphics-Cards?IsSupport=False&Page=1

i am pritty sure powercoler also had 3870 but they've removed old cards from their site. i've seen it when i was updating the drivers for my 3850.

 

[T4C Fantasy]

Here's everything you've requested. This card does in a Windows PC. I tried a couple different driver versions and I ended up with the 9.10. Also, here is a picture of the PCI bracket which is typically found on Apple Radeon cards. Also, there is no S-Video on this card and it has 2 X 6-Pin PEG connectors. The card came from a California based Mac Pro. Nothing else is known about it's existence.

I have the BIOS file, just let me know how you want me to send it to you.

Thanks!
F2F Tech

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looks so much better xD
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/ati-radeon-hd-2900-xtx-prototype-b3-0717.b6351

i would like you to measure the length of the gpu though.

 

[lexluthermiester]

i am pritty sure powercoler also had 3870 but they've removed old cards from their site. i've seen it when i was updating the drivers for my 3850.

I didn't see any AGP versions of those cards with those links. Am I missing something?

 

[stinger608]

Not sure there was ever the 3870 released in AGP format. I know there were a ton of 3850's as I have one of those AGP cards.

 

[ne6togadno]

I didn't see any AGP versions of those cards with those links. Am I missing something?

ugh..
i somehow missed the part that you are arguing only over agp version existance.
anyway "learn more" links on sapphire site are dead ends so no way to check actual spces of the cards.
his have their legasy models still available but all 3870 are pci. i guess they also gave up on agp for 3870 even thou they are the those that showed off 3870 agp on computex
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/computex-2008-day-3-the-man-with-the-hammer,4.html

 

[lexluthermiester]

even thou they are the those that showed off 3870 agp on computex

Which is part of why it's a bit of a mystery.

 

[ne6togadno]

interestingly while guru3d's rep has stearing at gpus, w1zz was bussy rocking with coputex girls and missed that 3870 agp

 

[Xpect]

I have a GT130 here that is not in the Database. 1,5GB of VRAM. Is that relevant or of no interest? Is an older OEM card out of a Packard Bell PC

 

[Frick]

interestingly while guru3d's rep has stearing at gpus, w1zz was bussy rocking with coputex girls and missed that 3870 agp

Of god don't remind me of that retarded time.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I have a GT130 here that is not in the Database. 1,5GB of VRAM. Is that relevant or of no interest? Is an older OEM card out of a Packard Bell PC

Post pictures and screen shots of GPUZ as well as the driver detail screen in the NVidia control panel.

Of god don't remind me of that retarded time.

I thought it was kinda funny. At the time, I was kinda hoping he'd do that stateside.

 

[Face2Face]

More info on my HD 2900 XTX Mac Edition - Seem the clock speeds are a little bit lower on the core. Here's A 3Dmark06 score with a stock Q6700 and 8GB DDR 800 (W7 64bit with Catalyst 11.1)

 

[erek]

Another 2900 XTX?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ATI-Radeon...112373?hash=item2ab9b28af5:g:67oAAOSwmNlb0mP~

 

[Face2Face]

Another 2900 XTX?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ATI-Radeon...112373?hash=item2ab9b28af5:g:67oAAOSwmNlb0mP~

Yep, that’s an early sample. $70 is a steal. Did you grab it?

 

[erek]

Yep, that’s an early sample. $70 is a steal. Did you grab it?

i wish, someone on the Pixel Talk Discord posted the eBay listing

 

[erek]

My Collection so far, the white card is a SiS Xabre 600, and the separate pic is being shipped to me is the S3 GammaChrome S18 Pro:

 

[lexluthermiester]

Very cool collection!

 

[silentbogo]

My Collection so far

Bottom middle... is that what I think it is? A Larrabee engineering sample?

 

[erek]

Bottom middle... is that what I think it is? A Larrabee engineering sample?

yes

https://imgur.com/a/iIcZQ3Y

Officially confirmed the S18 Pro

 

[erek]

@Fouqin @Mr.Scott

what are the chances of this actually being a socketed board?

 

[MrGenius]

No. XD they are equal in most cases in most real world scenarios that is

Yes. 6.000 GPixel/s x 2 = 12.000 GPixel/s which is ≈ 10.69 GPixel/s. I wasn't trying to say it was 2x as fast overall. It does process pixels almost 2x as fast though.

And they are not equal in most real world scenarios. Much less is the 4670 AGP faster than the 3850 AGP in most real world scenarios. Hence the +12% relative performance advantage you attribute to the 4670 AGP over the 3570 AGP in the database is false.

But whatever. I'm well aware your knowledge of GPUs is infallible.

 

[T4C Fantasy]

Yes. 6.000 GPixel/s x 2 = 12.000 GPixel/s which is ≈ 10.69 GPixel/s. I wasn't trying to say it was 2x as fast overall. It does process pixels almost 2x as fast though.

And they are not equal in any scenario. Much less is the 4670 AGP faster than the 3850 AGP in any scenario. Hence the +12% relative performance advantage you attribute to the 4670 AGP over the 3570 AGP in the database is false.

But whatever. I'm well aware your knowledge of GPUs is infallible.

the 4670 is smoother and on par in some games, in newer games that use AA the 4670 will also be on par in real world scenarios, like skyrim the 4670 is more playable. Thats all im saying.. Its not a cut and dry a win for 3850

 

[Mr.Scott]

@Fouqin @Mr.Scott

what are the chances of this actually being a socketed board?

2900 XT's PCB was silk screened to make it look socketed. I've never seen one anywhere that actually was, so I would say unlikely.
Never know though. Maybe.