EVGA Announces the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti BLACK EDITION GAMING for... $999?

[Fluffmeister]

Poor Pascal is still waiting for full competition, let alone poor Volta and poor Turing.

The R9 295X2 set the bar high sadly at $1499.

 

[silentbogo]

You need to have monitors that support daisy-chaining. I have 2x HP Z24i, 2x HP ZR24W, 2x HP LP2475w and 1xDELL G2410 none of them supports it. So the only way to get them working is to connect three displays to iGP and 4 to GPU as Ndivia gaming GPUs support up to 4 displays no more (AMD supports 5). DELL G2410 doesn't have active DP, that complicates things. I'm not willing to buy new monitors just because manufacturers don't offer at least five ports like they used to. The only viable option from NVidia is shitty performing NVS 810 card which offers 8 mini DPs and 8 signals.

Just get DP MST hub.

 

[unikin]

Just get DP MST hub.

Thanks for advice, I haven't thought about it. Will do it with my next GPU buy. If I understand it correctly I can use more than max 4 displays with one Nvidia card if I use DP MST hub like Club3D DisplayPort 1.2 to 4 Multi-Display MST Hub (CSV-5400)? I see that max resolution is 7680x4320px so it should support up to twelve 1920x1200px displays with three hubs or am I wrong?

 

[ZeDestructor]

You need to have monitors that support daisy-chaining. I have 2x HP Z24i, 2x HP ZR24W, 2x HP LP2475w and 1xDELL G2410 none of them supports it. So the only way to get them working is to connect three displays to iGP and 4 to GPU as Ndivia gaming GPUs support up to 4 displays no more (AMD supports 5). DELL G2410 doesn't have active DP, that complicates things. I'm not willing to buy new monitors just because manufacturers don't offer at least five ports like they used to. The only viable option from NVidia is shitty performing NVS 810 card which offers 8 mini DPs and 8 signals.

For older monitors, you use MST hubs, like this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0722QJ9FS/ . Daisy-chaining is just an appllication of MST that's done within a monitor, but doesn't have to be. Note that this only really works to split up a 4K60 signal into 4 1080p60 or 2 1440p60 signals because of the inherent limitations of DP1.2. Sure, you still need to pay, but this is a far cry from the $600+ NVS810 cards (which you can attach 8 MST hubs to, for good measure!).

Ultimately, 2 monitors is a niche already, and more than 2 is a niche within a niche. Given the market situation, putting in more than 3 display controllers per GPU is a hard argument to make.

 

[silentbogo]

If I understand it correctly I can use more than max 4 displays with one Nvidia card if I use DP MST hub like Club3D DisplayPort 1.2 to 4 Multi-Display MST Hub (CSV-5400)? I see that max resolution is 7680x4320px so it should support up to twelve 1920x1200px displays with three hubs or am I wrong?

It mostly depends on the total bandwidth and whatever manufacturer has implemented. Some hubs can only do 3 monitors w/ 1920x1200 resolution. Otherwise the 4th one may drop the refresh rate to 30Hz, or switch to cloned mode, or not work at all.

 

[B-Real]

Haha, 1000$ is still overpriced AF. 700, maximum 800$ and OK for that performance increase and RTX technology. Not more.

 

[Emanulele]

Suuuuuuureeeee -> https://eu.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-2282-KR

1250 EUR

 

[jabbadap]

Suuuuuuureeeee -> https://eu.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-2282-KR

1250 EUR

Not the same card, that is XC Black OC version of black -> A bin gpu. Non-XC Black is stock clocked with non-A bin gpu. That card is selling at $1150 on US store.

 

[Emanulele]

Not the same card, that is XC Black OC version of black -> A bin gpu. Non-XC Black is stock clocked with non-A bin gpu. That card is selling at $1150 on US store.

So the one you linked is the same as the one I linked (with added EU tax over here), the one announced is still not in their shop then, right?

EDIT: for completeness sake, it is this card, and it is not on the EU shop (yet?) https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-2281-KR

 

[Fx]

Haha, 1000$ is still overpriced AF. 700, maximum 800$ and OK for that performance increase and RTX technology. Not more.

Yes sir. This is my opinion too. With that said, I will concede that I will now just barely start to contemplate the purchase of this card compared to when it was >$1,200.

The more nuanced part of my logic has me realizing that I currently game at 1080p and will probably upgrade to 1440p instead of 4k. So all I really need right now is a 2070 or 2080 at most and can easily save a grip of money.

 

[newtekie1]

You need to have monitors that support daisy-chaining.

It's a good thing Displayport hubs aren't a thing that exists.

 

[ZeDestructor]

It's a good thing Displayport hubs aren't a thing that exists.

Slowpoke

 

[John Naylor]

It would appear that they are offering the TU102-300 and not the 300A in which the cost isn't really that much of a surprise. Every TPU review so far has listed a price for the non A version at $999 on the 1st page.

$999 EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti BLACK EDITION GAMING, 11G-P4-2281-KR
$1199 EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC BLACK EDITION GAMING, 11G-P4-2282-KR

As TPU reported, the A variants ( TU102-300A) are meant for higher-spec models, such as factory-overclocked cards. The TU102-300 (non-A) variants are meant for non-overclocked models.

 

[MarcusTaz]

So this card is becoming more and more avail on EVGA website. Question, has anyone been able to flash this card to a 300A bios and what are your results??

 

[John Naylor]

Again, it is a "Black Edition". In the TPU review on the 2070 black, it was one of the worst performing 2070s coming in dead last in fps achieved when manually overclocked among all 2070s tested by TPU. It is slower than 2080 Ti FE. Here's how the 2070s stacked up overclocking wise ranked by fps ... just under 6% from the EVGA black to the top dog.

Card / Core Speed / memory Speed / FPS achieved
ZOTAC RTX 2070 AMP Extreme / 2085 MHz 1990 MHz / 145.4 fps
MSI RTX 2070 Gaming Z / 2015 MHz / 2015 MHz / 144.5 fps
Palit RTX 2070 GameRock / 2040 MHz / 2020 MHz 143.1 fps
ASUS RTX 2070 STRIX / 2040 MHz / 1990 MHz / 142.7 fps
NVIDIA RTX 2070 Founders Edition / 2040 MHz / 1985 MHz / 138.7 fps
EVGA RTX 2070 Black / 2025 MHz / 1995 MHz / 137.4 fps

PCpartpickers current pricing on the Black is $1069.99 on amazon / $1076.98 on newegg ... still $200 cheaper than the Zotac Ti which is 14% faster than the Reference card. The MSI Trio led the Ti pack with 226.6 fps in the OC test closely followed by the EVGA FTW at 225.2 and the Asus Strix down at 225.0. The reference card was 194.5 OC'd. So we are we are looking at a 14% performance difference for an 18% increase in price for the Zotac.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pK...2080-ti-11-gb-black-video-card-11g-p4-2281-kr

As for the BIOS swap .. as always "not recommended" unless instructed to do so by your manufacturer.

We have watched the 2070 drop and to a lesser extent the 2080, now that AMD shot their volley, we can expect supply to catch up with demand and start seeing price drops. However given the Radeon's parity with the 2070 ... we can't expect too much. Eventually supply will exceed demand, and the better 300A GPUs will drop to $1150ish. At that point buying a AIB card is the better option than a $999 reference card. If the tariiffs go away that may get them under $1,000. Not something I'd recommend, but at least justifiable ... to an extent. The 2060 and 2070 are reasonably priced, I'm not there yet on the 2080 and the Ti.