Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[Mussels]

Thin form-factor heat-sinks would work well too.

it had heatsinks on them - they still ran really hot. unless you ran a radial cooler that blew air that way, you were screwed

2700x runs so much cooler/lower wattage in comparison, no cooling is even needed on the VRMs

 

[YautjaLord]

One final question: if i'll add AIDA64 FPU torture test to the test suite in my vid will it suffice? Along with Prime95 Small FFTs, CPU-Z, etc... The "heroes" of review is monoblock + R7 2700X rather than just 2700X. Lots of reviews about 2700X are in YT, i thought of slight deviation from this subject rather than making yet another 2700X generic review.

 

[Johan45]

What you add depends on what you're trying to get across. What is the intent of the video, OC/stability?

 

[YautjaLord]

Yeah, cooling & more of a review of the monoblock (EK-FB GA-AX370 Gaming) + 2700X, rather then just 2700X, how high one can OC under this specific LCS & be stable. Might also use this pic in the video:

Comparison between current (1700X) @ 3.8GHz & 2700X @ 4.3GHz, review will be in 2 or 3 languages if asked nicely (English, Hebrew, Russian). Basically every review will be in 2 or 3 languages, but i digress.

P.S. It will be Part 1 of planned 3.

Spoiler

8700K vs 2700X comes in Part 3, 8700K will be cooled down by this

 

[Dbiggs9]

New Ryzen build what do you guys think? Im looking for something small. i would like the 2700X but it's 105W vs 65W

Case : https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA8EF7N23771

 

[Mussels]

get the X and ignore the higher wattage - mine barely sips at the power, thats just a higher rating for the all core turbo

 

[Dbiggs9]

Should i buy new ram? I have 2x8 2400 15-15-15-39 1.2v

 

[Mussels]

dont buy ram til you've tried to OC it on the 2700(x) - i've had generic 2133 run at 2800 with no issues for example

 

[dhklopp]

That's me done with this chip and RAM. Cannot get it near 4.1 without a wipeout. It'll do me though, gotta have plenty of resources in reserve when browsing

 

[SIGSEGV]

is it true that Malaysia batch processor is not good? I have 2 of 2600X (my friend rig), one comes from China batch and the other one comes from Malaysia. I don't have any problem to undervolt 2600X that comes from China with -0.1300v but I cannot lower voltage another one (always hang/BSOD even with -0.050v). Thus, the temperature of the Malaysia batch is worse than China batch (runs hot).

 

[YautjaLord]

Got it installed, change in sys specs comes in few more hours from now (in a bar right now ) + some screenie for comparison sake.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

So I am wondering if any of you have tried a gigabyte aurus ddr4 kit 2x8 b dies out??

Just because I'm getting one tomorrow.

 

[YautjaLord]

First it pooped out 1658cb, 2nd run - this thingy. Takes time for this monoblock to cool this beast of a CPU down, but - yeah...... From 1658cb to this, either 174cb spike or real 2700X score. You decide, me like this & prev scores regardless. Looking for 2700X OC guide this weekend (tomorrow) & upcoming week. Goddangit, this CPU is a beast. Cheers.

@theoneandonlymrk: Flare X for me, but i might ask people in PC stores near me if they have those. Good luck. Them Gigabytes love to exaggerate with all this LED RGB stuff though, aren't they? Cheers. These, right?

P.S. TIM - Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut.
P.P.S. Got me 1872cb @ 4.2GHz/1.35v vCore. CPU LLC - Extreme, SoC LLC/voltage - Auto.

 

[GLD]

I have a 65w 2600 and now a 105w 2700X Ryzen. The 2600 is a keeper, but I want to get the 2700X to run like the vanilla 2700 at 65w or so. That is my mission.

 

[GoldenX]

I have a 65w 2600 and now a 105w 2700X Ryzen. The 2600 is a keeper, but I want to get the 2700X to run like the vanilla 2700 at 65w or so. That is my mission.

Undervolt the hell out of it.
I remember being forced to undervolt a Phenom II 980BE because my PSU was not enough. It did pretty well.

 

[SIGSEGV]

P.P.S. Got me 1872cb @ 4.2GHz/1.35v vCore. CPU LLC - Extreme, SoC LLC/voltage - Auto.

that's great oc you have mate
I found it very hard to make this beast stable with all cores at 4.3Ghz even with 1.42v on VCore.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

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First it pooped out 1658cb, 2nd run - this thingy. Takes time for this monoblock to cool this beast of a CPU down, but - yeah...... From 1658cb to this, either 174cb spike or real 2700X score. You decide, me like this & prev scores regardless. Looking for 2700X OC guide this weekend (tomorrow) & upcoming week. Goddangit, this CPU is a beast. Cheers.

@theoneandonlymrk: Flare X for me, but i might ask people in PC stores near me if they have those. Good luck. Them Gigabytes love to exaggerate with all this LED RGB stuff though, aren't they? Cheers. These, right?

P.S. TIM - Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut.
P.P.S. Got me 1872cb @ 4.2GHz/1.35v vCore. CPU LLC - Extreme, SoC LLC/voltage - Auto.

Quick early results on the gigabyte memory , It works fine first time using the xmp memory profile at 3200, I have tested for stability and my cpu is definitely running cooler too ,only a bit 2-4° under load, that load being 90% core use crunching , all on auto asus clock settings for now since I need a base point before memory tweaking.
Only issue is the rgb function is stuck on colour waterfall and gigabyte software isn't working,i usually just pulse red, got bad case of rgb blues though it's kinda mentally soothing, odd, might be new tech bromance ,but i like it when something works on auto.
I'll try and get them higher soon, also cas! 16,18,18? ,It works for now.

 

[YautjaLord]

First good news on this OC: even though i used the X470 tutorial, it worked just fine on my rig (X370), basically it says in tutorial that max vCore voltage & LLC should be 1.30v (vCore voltage required for 4.2GHz, mine @ 1.35) & Turbo for LLC respectively (mine is @ Extreme). Every other voltage, with an exception of RAM voltage (1.35v) is at Auto. Cinebench R15 score is @ these settings.

Now, the bad news: apparently it's too much for Prime95 Small FFTs test (no custom run for now), it stopped prematurely @ 30mins & peaked @ 77 degrees C on tDie. So basically i'm saying that it'll take some time before i'll upload the vid, y'know? I believe this thing can reach 4.3GHz manually & work @ that frequency stable, just need to do a bit more thorough research on this thing. If anyone of you have suggestions how to deal with this, i won't mind that you'll elaborate on it. Cheers.

 

[Johan45]

I would back the LLC down a bit, these CPUs are designed to run with some droop. I also wouldn't worry too much about that 1.3V cap. Not sure where that came from but you're going to need some more volts to pass that OC. So two choices, slow it down or give it more powa!

 

[HTC]

Does anyone have an underclock guide for AM4 platform? It's been quite a while since i last OCed and that was with an Llano APU but this time i'd like to go the opposite route and UC instead: not trying to find the biggest UC or any of the sort: just looking for a relatively mild UC while not losing the benefits of the chip clocking down when it's in Idle.

The plan is to UC the chip while keeping the RAM @ 3200 CL16.

I believe it requires messing with the PStates but i really have no knowledge about that: if someone would be so kind as to point me in the right direction, i'd appreciate it.

 

[Johan45]

Does anyone have an underclock guide for AM4 platform? It's been quite a while since i last OCed and that was with an Llano APU but this time i'd like to go the opposite route and UC instead: not trying to find the biggest UC or any of the sort: just looking for a relatively mild UC while not losing the benefits of the chip clocking down when it's in Idle.

The plan is to UC the chip while keeping the RAM @ 3200 CL16.

I believe it requires messing with the PStates but i really have no knowledge about that: if someone would be so kind as to point me in the right direction, i'd appreciate it.

What are you trying to accomplish? More power savings? These CPUs don't use a lot of power as it is.
Yes P-States would be the way to go and then use a negative offset for voltage. Or just disable the core boost and adjust voltage with offsets

 

[btarunr]

Hi2u from the new Ryzen build!

When trying to cut the police-grade zip-tie holding the bunch of fixed PSU cables together with scissors, I accidentally cut one of the 24-pin cable's wires. I just braided the wire and sealed with insular tape. Hope it holds under stress.

Turns out it did. The very first POST was gut-wrenchingly long (like 20 seconds). I thought I screwed up with the PSU cable, and maybe even fried the board. But then the "press F1 for setup" screen greeted me.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Hi2u from the new Ryzen build!

When trying to cut the police-grade zip-tie holding the bunch of fixed PSU cables together with scissors, I accidentally cut one of the 24-pin cable's wires. I just braided the wire and sealed with insular tape. Hope it holds under stress.

Turns out it did. The very first POST was gut-wrenchingly long (like 20 seconds). I thought I screwed up with the PSU cable, and maybe even fried the board. But then the "press F1 for setup" screen greeted me.

Looking good, any work done on it or gaming, interested in your first Impressions.


I have been working on my memory clocks, best i can do is 3400 C15,17,17,17,17,38,56 at1.4v.

I have noticed something worth mentioning too.

Ram start up voltage in my motherboard power supply bios settings, it is best to also set it to your desired ram Volts or it (i assume) boots lower than that and if like me your pushing odd or new clocks and timings.(im thinking this could also have limited my prior memory clocking attempts).

Before doing this i had no luck at all with timings and not much with clocks.

Now it's tweaking easier, upto fail point ,which is still a pain.

It's running better , benching better now.

And also cold boots better, this platform has been crsp for cold booting high memory clocks upto last night now it's fine.

I run it 24/7 so cold boots were not really a issue for me tbf.

 

[Johan45]

Yes VDIMM boot needs to be set most of the time. Can't count on auto

 

[YautjaLord]

Hi2u from the new Ryzen build!

When trying to cut the police-grade zip-tie holding the bunch of fixed PSU cables together with scissors, I accidentally cut one of the 24-pin cable's wires. I just braided the wire and sealed with insular tape. Hope it holds under stress.

Turns out it did. The very first POST was gut-wrenchingly long (like 20 seconds). I thought I screwed up with the PSU cable, and maybe even fried the board. But then the "press F1 for setup" screen greeted me.

God, you are a moderator bta, i thought you'd go full-blown liquid cooling with this rig! jk

Looks neat, congrats with new rig. Cheers.

P.S. That "i accidentally cut one of the 24-pin cable wires" story though, definitely nerve wrecking.