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This.Internal Speaker for giving Diagnostics Beep Codes
This.Internal Speaker for giving Diagnostics Beep Codes
Be careful putting heatsinks on the VRM in these. There are components in between the MOSFETs that are sticking up in the way of doing that.
Did not get you. Exactly what components are creating problem. The original Dell small Aluminium Heatsinks seems to be sitting very well over the VRM area without hurting any VRM Component.
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But you need to put a Silicon Thermal Pad below the Aluminium Heat Sink for VRM.
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I took the Scythe NinJa off of the T5500 MB and tried the Dell 0P041K cooler. The mounting bolts are all wrong, but the size and bolt pattern are correct. 50% more heat pipes and comes with a fan. Male to male bolts is the issue. I don't have an original heatsink to try the old hardware. But this is the cooler I would go to on a t3500. The fins are folded down on the sides to form a duct so all the air from the fan passes over the heatpipes.
Actually though ...... some amount of airfow escaping thru the side of fins ........ may be blessing in disguise ... as these escaping airflow .... will pass over the adjacent VRM Mosfets ... cooling them down a bit.
A little more on fans for ManGupta. There are variable speed fans that are not PWM. They have a blue thermistor sticking up from the motor in the back. They vary speed based on the temperature of the air passing through them. This may be useful in your environment. The thermistor is a resistor, and if you add a resistance between the legs it will be a resistor in parallel which willl make the motor run faster. Normally used as an exhaust fan. Some Nidec Beta V TA350DC comes like this. You can see the sensor here.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fre...Thermal-Sensor-Fan-12V-1-8A-3/1956098195.html
This is a 38mm thick fan. This lets fans move more air without a lot of RPM. I always prefer these over 25mm thick fans.
Thanks for the Aliexpress fan link ....... Fan seems impressive with 5700 max rpm and 130 cfm. GREAT.
The cooling mods I posted above would apply to the T3400 directly because it's a classic BTX. The T3500 is a modified BTX, but the cooling works on the same principles. 1 powerful fan, and good control of airflow. But instead of a duct they use the HDD tray, the RAM shroud, and the case and cover to form one around the heatsink. 100*F. ambient is an interesting problem. I think my BTX overclocking cooling mods could handle that easily. Too bad I wasn't asked this a week a go when I had my 65W Q9505S quad core in there. I might have gotten Prime 95 running in the high 40s.
But I did the BIOS mod so it's probably not supported anymore. The temperatures I got above on the X5470 would represent a 10% overclock on a Q9650 CPU.
Its Winter season now. Any Cooling Mods done by me can be Authentically Tested here only at the Peak of Summer season (May-June). Will give cooling Mods one more shot then. At this time Cooling Mods may seem to be Okey Dokey ..... But during the Peak Summer ..... it may come out that what was okey in Winter may not necessarily pass the Reality Check in Peak Summer.
System Name | BTXTREME |
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Processor | QX6800 SLACP Core2 Extreme |
Motherboard | Dell 0WG864 LGA775 BTX |
Cooling | Dell T9303 heatpipe cooler, Delta GFB1212VHG 2 motor fan. |
Memory | 8GB Dell DDR2@800 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Dual BIOS R9-285 ITX O/C 2GB DDR5 |
Storage | Crucial M500 240GB SSD |
Display(s) | Dell 22" LCD |
Case | Dell Dimension E 520 MT |
Audio Device(s) | onboard sound with Logitech Z523 speakers |
Power Supply | EVGA B2 750W semi modular |
Mouse | Logitech wireless (two installed) |
Keyboard | Logitech wireless backlit |
Software | Win7-64, Throttlestop 6.00 overclock |
Benchmark Scores | 3DMark 11 P7644 (52% )In Win7 64, Firestrike 6892 ( 58% ) http://valid.x86.fr/l2j5p1 |
I have tried to add heatsinks to these as part of my modding. My T3500 required drilling holes in the back of the heatsink so it could sit flat on the MOSFETs. The T5500 had too many of them to do that. If you want to add a heatsink check for this. I would suggest separate sinks for each MOSFET because without a spring loaded mount, and thermal paste, expansion and contratcion of the heatsink will cause it to come loose if it's glued on. Like Lex said they made changes in that area that eliminated the need for it. The ones with the heatsink may have different parts there. Photographs of the heatsink version are in all the manuals. But they seem to be uncommon in the wild. I suppose they could be using a thick thermal pad to absorb the difference in height. The MOSFETs aren't all the same height either.
That about sums it up.That is all this if Heat Sink is really required. Else as Lex said it may not be needed at all. It may be only required in case CPU draws very high power (much more than rated 130 Watts most X58 processors consume). This scenario can only occur in case of Extreme Overclocking which Dell MB do not allows at all.
System Name | BTXTREME |
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Processor | QX6800 SLACP Core2 Extreme |
Motherboard | Dell 0WG864 LGA775 BTX |
Cooling | Dell T9303 heatpipe cooler, Delta GFB1212VHG 2 motor fan. |
Memory | 8GB Dell DDR2@800 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Dual BIOS R9-285 ITX O/C 2GB DDR5 |
Storage | Crucial M500 240GB SSD |
Display(s) | Dell 22" LCD |
Case | Dell Dimension E 520 MT |
Audio Device(s) | onboard sound with Logitech Z523 speakers |
Power Supply | EVGA B2 750W semi modular |
Mouse | Logitech wireless (two installed) |
Keyboard | Logitech wireless backlit |
Software | Win7-64, Throttlestop 6.00 overclock |
Benchmark Scores | 3DMark 11 P7644 (52% )In Win7 64, Firestrike 6892 ( 58% ) http://valid.x86.fr/l2j5p1 |
System Name | PCGR |
---|---|
Processor | 12400f |
Motherboard | Asus ROG STRIX B660-I |
Cooling | Stock Intel Cooler |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR5 5600 Corsair |
Video Card(s) | Dell RTX 3080 |
Storage | 1x 512GB Mmoment PCIe 3 NVME 1x 2TB Corsair S70 |
Display(s) | LG 32" 1440p |
Case | Phanteks Evolve itx |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard |
Power Supply | 750W Cooler Master sfx |
Software | Windows 11 |
I'm still waiting on the Dell 5 pin to 4 pin fan adapter. Then I got to get a new GPU as I used the gtx1060 for my home theater/retro gaming build.
But can someone guide me through getting that w3680 to 4ghz?
For OC You Need to go thru that thread started by Retrorockit
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/throttlestop-overclocking-desktop-pcs.235975/
SLG8XP519T But support is hard to find for that one.
The ICS932S421BGLF is supported by SetFSB and is the PLL for the T5500, and T7500. So if this method appeals to you a single or dual CPU setup on those should work. An SATA controller card is reported to be necessary to prevent OS crashes. The T5500 MB is a direct replacement for the T3500. Cost about $40. But the chipset might prefer RDIMMs.
confirms 16GB RDIMMs on some X58 MB for 96GB RAM. Says not all support it. Of course no one over there is going to try it on a T3500
System Name | Dell T3500 |
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Processor | Xeon X5687 |
Motherboard | Dell - 9KPNV |
Cooling | Dell U016F |
Memory | 12gb ECC 1333 |
Video Card(s) | MSI rx480 gaming X |
Storage | 1tb WD blue |
Case | Dell T3500 |
Simplest way I found is install Intel XTU (here) and change all multi to 30x. ThrottleStop is another option of course.But can someone guide me through getting that w3680 to 4ghz?
Besides buffering, only advantage is price. If decide to try, you may want to hold off until someone can confirm whether RDIMM modules are even possible in a T3500/X58 board. As you may have seen in post #360, i have three of those same modules (#49Y1415) unbranded IBM. Work great in T5500 board, but will not boot with them in any way in the T3500.I have a T3500 with X5675 CPU. Right now I am "full" 24GB of RAM and although I am tempted to try the RDIMM, I can't see the gain. I am already using 4GB od those in PrimoCache as a cache, and it's enough IMO. Maybe I'll play more with this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/49Y1415-8GB-DDR3-1333MHz-RDIMM-Memory-IBM-System/181697687564
6x$23=$138... is it worth it thou?
System Name | PCGR |
---|---|
Processor | 12400f |
Motherboard | Asus ROG STRIX B660-I |
Cooling | Stock Intel Cooler |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR5 5600 Corsair |
Video Card(s) | Dell RTX 3080 |
Storage | 1x 512GB Mmoment PCIe 3 NVME 1x 2TB Corsair S70 |
Display(s) | LG 32" 1440p |
Case | Phanteks Evolve itx |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard |
Power Supply | 750W Cooler Master sfx |
Software | Windows 11 |
i have three of those same modules (#49Y1415) unbranded IBM. Work great in T5500 board, but will not boot with them in any way in the T3500.
System Name | Dell T3500 |
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Processor | Xeon X5687 |
Motherboard | Dell - 9KPNV |
Cooling | Dell U016F |
Memory | 12gb ECC 1333 |
Video Card(s) | MSI rx480 gaming X |
Storage | 1tb WD blue |
Case | Dell T3500 |
post #364Susquehannock,
Did you tried with a X56XX Processor in T3500 ... ??
[edit] CPU = W3680.
Yes. Meant to mention that. Only tried those IBM modules in T3500 in my signature so far. Since it is a single QPI chip was considering whether that was a factor. System runs so well with overclocked W3680 that I have been reluctant to go back to quad core and drop a X5687 to try it. Found X5690 at good deal so may try that once it arrives just to confirm if QPI is a factor.
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System Name | Dell T3500 |
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Processor | Xeon X5687 |
Motherboard | Dell - 9KPNV |
Cooling | Dell U016F |
Memory | 12gb ECC 1333 |
Video Card(s) | MSI rx480 gaming X |
Storage | 1tb WD blue |
Case | Dell T3500 |
Sure hope you're right. Having 3x8gb=24 already, attaining 48gb would mean another $66 vs over $200 switching to UDIMMs. At which point my T5500 board would be of no use unless going dual CPU.I strongly suspect that the Integrated Memory Controller on W36XX series processor is the culprit. Actually I ran Sis Sandra Software and it says that Registered ECC DIMM upto 48 GB is supported.
It's could very well be possible. Someone needs to take the plunge and try it though..I strongly suspect that the Integrated Memory Controller on W36XX series processor is the culprit. Actually I ran Sis Sandra Software and it says that Registered ECC DIMM upto 48 GB is supported.
Sure hope you're right. Having 3x8gb=24 already, attaining 48gb would mean another $66 vs over $200 switching to UDIMMs. At which point my T5500 board would be of no use unless going dual CPU.
Sure hope you're right. Having 3x8gb=24 already, attaining 48gb would mean another $66 vs over $200 switching to UDIMMs. At which point my T5500 board would be of no use unless going dual CPU.
System Name | BTXTREME |
---|---|
Processor | QX6800 SLACP Core2 Extreme |
Motherboard | Dell 0WG864 LGA775 BTX |
Cooling | Dell T9303 heatpipe cooler, Delta GFB1212VHG 2 motor fan. |
Memory | 8GB Dell DDR2@800 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Dual BIOS R9-285 ITX O/C 2GB DDR5 |
Storage | Crucial M500 240GB SSD |
Display(s) | Dell 22" LCD |
Case | Dell Dimension E 520 MT |
Audio Device(s) | onboard sound with Logitech Z523 speakers |
Power Supply | EVGA B2 750W semi modular |
Mouse | Logitech wireless (two installed) |
Keyboard | Logitech wireless backlit |
Software | Win7-64, Throttlestop 6.00 overclock |
Benchmark Scores | 3DMark 11 P7644 (52% )In Win7 64, Firestrike 6892 ( 58% ) http://valid.x86.fr/l2j5p1 |
I have a T3500 with X5675 CPU. Right now I am "full" 24GB of RAM and although I am tempted to try the RDIMM, I can't see the gain. I am already using 4GB od those in PrimoCache as a cache, and it's enough IMO. Maybe I'll play more with this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/49Y1415-8GB-DDR3-1333MHz-RDIMM-Memory-IBM-System/181697687564
6x$23=$138... is it worth it thou?
Also I have a 3Ware 9650SE SATA RAID controller on my board, so I would rather try to OC (after moving my SSD on that controller).
System Name | Dell T3500 |
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Processor | Xeon X5687 |
Motherboard | Dell - 9KPNV |
Cooling | Dell U016F |
Memory | 12gb ECC 1333 |
Video Card(s) | MSI rx480 gaming X |
Storage | 1tb WD blue |
Case | Dell T3500 |
This is true. Was referring to my particular situation using T5500 board in T3500 case. No need for the extra power as configured and active cooling on northbridge does not become a major factor unless utilizing the CPU riser.Just for testing RDIMM full 48 GB capacity may not be necessarily required (unless we want to test the capacity as well). For just testing if T3500 MB with X56XX series Processor supports Registered DIMM or not ....... can be tested without full capacity ..... even single channel RDIMM.
T5500 is good system, not just 2 CPU but also it has active chipset cooling (unlike T3500) and also larger capacity PSU.
This is true. Was referring to my particular situation using T5500 board in T3500 case. No need for the extra power as configured and active cooling on northbridge does not become a major factor unless utilizing the CPU riser.
yeah that's correct
What I gather from my experiments thus far. If it does turn out to be the memory controller on X56xx that means no overclocking with RDIMMs since, unless I'm mistaken, all X56xx are dual QPI with no known unlocked CPU. And since T5500/5520 chipset boards don't seem to like single QPI, using a known unlocked such as W3680 is not an option either.
unfortunately ............ I am afraid ....... this seems to be true ......
Since the seller seems to dragging their feet giving a shipping confirmation on the X5690, I may just drop the X5687 in there later today.
If you do not mind ........ what price was X5690 Deal ( I do not understand why ...... but I am getting quotes of Used X5690 at twice that of X5680 ...... in spite of difference of only 0.13 MHz)
Anyone know if (or how many) Microsoft limits number of hardware changes in Windows 10?
No Idea about that ...... just heard that in case of Microsoft OEM licenses there may be issue while changing Motherboards ..... But did not knew about Processor. I do have changed processors few times but so far did not encountered any issued related to windows Activation.
@ManGupta I'm digging into my parts pile and getting the 0P041K heatsink mounted onto a T5500MB. The key to swapping heatsinks on these is the threaded spacers in the Thermalright mounting kits. They're the right thread and the right height ( or can be adjusted if needed). I'm trying to duplicate the spring loaded OEM mounting they came with.
System Name | BTXTREME |
---|---|
Processor | QX6800 SLACP Core2 Extreme |
Motherboard | Dell 0WG864 LGA775 BTX |
Cooling | Dell T9303 heatpipe cooler, Delta GFB1212VHG 2 motor fan. |
Memory | 8GB Dell DDR2@800 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Dual BIOS R9-285 ITX O/C 2GB DDR5 |
Storage | Crucial M500 240GB SSD |
Display(s) | Dell 22" LCD |
Case | Dell Dimension E 520 MT |
Audio Device(s) | onboard sound with Logitech Z523 speakers |
Power Supply | EVGA B2 750W semi modular |
Mouse | Logitech wireless (two installed) |
Keyboard | Logitech wireless backlit |
Software | Win7-64, Throttlestop 6.00 overclock |
Benchmark Scores | 3DMark 11 P7644 (52% )In Win7 64, Firestrike 6892 ( 58% ) http://valid.x86.fr/l2j5p1 |
System Name | Dell T3500 |
---|---|
Processor | Xeon X5687 |
Motherboard | Dell - 9KPNV |
Cooling | Dell U016F |
Memory | 12gb ECC 1333 |
Video Card(s) | MSI rx480 gaming X |
Storage | 1tb WD blue |
Case | Dell T3500 |
Nice mod. Was thinking about ManGuptas's heat situation myself. I realize ambient room temps in India are much higher than mine (30*C vs 22*C/72*F), but why 100*C so quick? Bad thermal paste? Did you remove cooler and re-apply?This should help with ManGuptas's 100*F. ambient situation, or help prep for an dual CPU overclocking assault.
System Name | BTXTREME |
---|---|
Processor | QX6800 SLACP Core2 Extreme |
Motherboard | Dell 0WG864 LGA775 BTX |
Cooling | Dell T9303 heatpipe cooler, Delta GFB1212VHG 2 motor fan. |
Memory | 8GB Dell DDR2@800 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Dual BIOS R9-285 ITX O/C 2GB DDR5 |
Storage | Crucial M500 240GB SSD |
Display(s) | Dell 22" LCD |
Case | Dell Dimension E 520 MT |
Audio Device(s) | onboard sound with Logitech Z523 speakers |
Power Supply | EVGA B2 750W semi modular |
Mouse | Logitech wireless (two installed) |
Keyboard | Logitech wireless backlit |
Software | Win7-64, Throttlestop 6.00 overclock |
Benchmark Scores | 3DMark 11 P7644 (52% )In Win7 64, Firestrike 6892 ( 58% ) http://valid.x86.fr/l2j5p1 |
System Name | Dell T3500 |
---|---|
Processor | Xeon X5687 |
Motherboard | Dell - 9KPNV |
Cooling | Dell U016F |
Memory | 12gb ECC 1333 |
Video Card(s) | MSI rx480 gaming X |
Storage | 1tb WD blue |
Case | Dell T3500 |
100*F ambient? Must have missed that somewhere. Was reading 30*C (86*F) ambient in post # 366.100* "F" ambient.
System Name | BTXTREME |
---|---|
Processor | QX6800 SLACP Core2 Extreme |
Motherboard | Dell 0WG864 LGA775 BTX |
Cooling | Dell T9303 heatpipe cooler, Delta GFB1212VHG 2 motor fan. |
Memory | 8GB Dell DDR2@800 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Dual BIOS R9-285 ITX O/C 2GB DDR5 |
Storage | Crucial M500 240GB SSD |
Display(s) | Dell 22" LCD |
Case | Dell Dimension E 520 MT |
Audio Device(s) | onboard sound with Logitech Z523 speakers |
Power Supply | EVGA B2 750W semi modular |
Mouse | Logitech wireless (two installed) |
Keyboard | Logitech wireless backlit |
Software | Win7-64, Throttlestop 6.00 overclock |
Benchmark Scores | 3DMark 11 P7644 (52% )In Win7 64, Firestrike 6892 ( 58% ) http://valid.x86.fr/l2j5p1 |