Are these temps safe for a 750 TI ?

[27MaD]

Hello , so today i decided to stress my 750 TI using Furmark , and my temps where different according to if it's overclocked (my OC is +150/400 MHz) and if the case is opened or not (i did this because i don't have a case fan , i broke it).
My temps are :

Case opened + OC: 78° (no throttling)
Case opened + no OC: 78° (no throttling)
Case closed + OC: 82-83° (little throttling)
Case closed + no OC: 80-81° (no throttling)

(all these temps where recorded in the same ambient temp)


& btw my 750 TI exact model is the ASUS GTX750TI-FML-OC-2GD5 , it has a single 80 or 90mm fan if i'm not mistaking , and a small heatsink.

 

[IceScreamer]

I don't think you're supposed to use Furmark anymore, but considering everything yea those temps are in line. Try to install a case fan if you can, or if it is any way possible get a decent case, since it should be reusable in possible future builds. Even cheap eBay/aliexpress fans would do the job but unless the case has blocked intake/exhaust, then it's basically no use.

 

[Vario]

Even a desk fan pointed at the open case would be helpful.

Under 80 degrees C is fine. Don't use Furmark it will reduce your graphics cards life for no purpose.

 

[27MaD]

I don't think you're supposed to use Furmark anymore

Why?

Don't use Furmark it will reduce your graphics cards life for no purpose.

Thought this is bull$h!t !!

 

[jboydgolfer]

Why?

its said to be unrealistically stressful by some. "not supposed to use" might be a bit much, but , "pointless" would be a more suitable wording imo.

 

[27MaD]

its said to be unrealistically stressful by some. "not supposed to use" might be a bit much, but , "pointless" would be a more suitable wording imo.

Didn't understand what u just said but i don't care , Furmark is not a software that u run everyday.

 

[IceScreamer]

Didn't understand what u just said but i don't care , Furmark is not a software that u run everyday.

He probably meant that the load that Furmark puts on your graphics card is unrealistic as in the card will never be used that hard in regular usage, so running Furmark in the first place is pointless, and as some others said, possibly dangerous.

 

[jboydgolfer]

Didn't understand what u just said

I answered your question as to why some people feel furmark should not be used. The reason seems to be that it WAY over loads the gpu , far beyond any reasonable stress load, and apparently its thought that excessive load might damage a card. I don't know one way or the other. IMO using stress programs is senseless, it's more for people who Bench for the sake of benching. But maybe he meant something else,i dont know

 

[27MaD]

He probably meant that the load that Furmark puts on your graphics card is unrealistic as in the card will never be used that hard in regular usage, so running Furmark in the first place is pointless, and as some others said, possibly dangerous.

Yeah i know , a game using 100% of the GPU is not like Furmark using 100%.

But maybe he meant something else,i dont know

No , just wanted to see how high my temps can go .

 

[Ruru]

Furmark is useless, has been for years. All it does is just heat up the GPU to unrealistic temps.

What's the maximum when gaming? If that still worries you, take the cooler off, clean it of all dust and shit, change the thermal paste and you're good to go. 750 Ti's doesn't run that hot. My old MSI didn't even reach 60C even when overclocked to its max.

 

[27MaD]

What's the maximum when gaming?

Well , i can't determinate , my C2D can't push my 750 TI to it's limits , my card is clean of dust but i haven't reapplied the thermal paste since i bought it , do u think reapplying it will drop the temps too much? , what i know that changing thermal paste can drop temps by only 2-3 degrees.

 

[jboydgolfer]

My nephews old 750Ti-LP was very resilient temperature wise. He actually ran it (unknowingly) without fans for quite some time ,just as a passively cooled GPU ,and until he started to play fallout ,it never was a problem. Then we discovered The fans had died, at which point I replaced them, but if yours is anything like his,it can likely handle fairly steep temperatures, but it will certainly throttle performance. If you can even just point your case fan at it, it'll be better off.
If you're in need of a good source for "hard to find" fan types, let me know , I found a guy on eBay who 3-D prints unique types for situations like this

 

[Ruru]

Well , i can't determinate , my C2D can't push my 750 TI to it's limits , my card is clean of dust but i haven't reapplied the thermal paste since i bought it , do u think reapplying it will drop the temps too much? , what i know that changing thermal paste can drop temps by only 2-3 degrees.

If the original paste has dried badly, new paste can help more than just few degrees. Seen it many many times with older graphics cards.

 

[27MaD]

My nephews old 750Ti-LP was very resilient temperature wise. He actually ran it (unknowingly) without fans for quite some time ,just as a passively cooled GPU ,and until he started to play fallout ,it never was a problem. Then we discovered The fans had died, at which point I replaced them, but if yours is anything like his,it can likely handle fairly steep temperatures, but it will certainly throttle performance. If you can even just point your case fan at it, it'll be better off.
If you're in need of a good source for "hard to find" fan types, let me know , I found a guy on eBay who 3-D prints unique types for situations like this

If i touch the fan while spinning they are very fast , so i don't think i have a bad fan.

If the original paste has dried badly, new paste can help more than just few degrees. Seen it many many times with older graphics cards.

Well , the last time i removed the heatsink , the paste didn't seem to be 100% dry , but it looked like it needs to be changed , i just ignored it , too lazy , but i'll change it anyway since thermal pastes r dirt cheap.

My nephews old 750Ti-LP was very resilient temperature wise. He actually ran it (unknowingly) without fans for quite some time ,just as a passively cooled GPU ,and until he started to play fallout ,it never was a problem. Then we discovered The fans had died, at which point I replaced them, but if yours is anything like his,it can likely handle fairly steep temperatures, but it will certainly throttle performance. If you can even just point your case fan at it, it'll be better off.
If you're in need of a good source for "hard to find" fan types, let me know , I found a guy on eBay who 3-D prints unique types for situations like this

I can feel the air coming through the heatsink and hits the chip and goes around the gpu.

I can feel the air coming through the heatsink and hits the chip and goes around the gpu.


Well , the last time i removed the heatsink , the paste didn't seem to be 100% dry , but it looked like it needs to be changed , i just ignored it , too lazy , but i'll change it anyway since thermal pastes r dirt cheap.

 

[Ruru]

Yeah, try changing the paste and report the changes.

 

[27MaD]

Yeah, try changing the paste and report the changes.

Will be the first time changing a video card thermal paste , terrified about how to clean the old one without damaging the die. , it's damn missed up.

 

[Vario]

Will be the first time changing a video card thermal paste , terrified about how to clean the old one without damaging the die. , it's damn missed up.

I wouldn't bother then. Videocard paste should last a long time. The issue is you live in a hot climate and don't have a case fan and you are running furmark. Your temperature is completely in line with that do not worry about it.

 

[jboydgolfer]

Will be the first time changing a video card thermal paste , terrified about how to clean the old one without damaging the die. , it's damn missed up.

It's very simple. Watch a video or two on YouTube and take your time, it's very easy just make sure you have thermal paste before you do it . If you haven't dusted or cleaned the video card, you can use compressed air or canned air and a brush and clean out any dust as well

 

[Ruru]

I'll wipe them away with just toilet paper. I know that it's not the best way, but does its job fine.

 

[jboydgolfer]

make sure you have the following:

rubbing alcohol
Thermal paste (any decent type will be good)
Q-tips , or paper towels to wipe old paste off after adding alcohol to old paste to soften it up
Keep track of your screws (a 750ti is pretty basic as far as GPu's go , so it will be simple disassembly)
be careful not to tear or misplace any thermal pads if there are any

apply new paste, re-assemble, install in PC, and done.

 

[coonbro]

its said to be unrealistically stressful by some. "not supposed to use" might be a bit much, but , "pointless" would be a more suitable wording imo.

I know I don't trust it or even think to use it [opinion] use to be lots of threads on taking there card out / messing them up using it [more opinion]

 

[John Naylor]

Heres' the reference card (Load = 66C / Load OC'd - 69C)
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_750_Ti/29.html

Heres' the Asus card (Load = 62C / Load OC'd - 64C)
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_750_Ti_OC/29.html

So your are running way way high ... I'd proceed checking 1 at a time.

I don't recommend Furmark for stability testing but for testing cooling capability, its remains one of the more valuable tools a the load is constant. Asus, MSI and Gigglebyte all have recommended have each recommended we use it while diagnosing cooling issues as does Cleco for their laptops... Clevo recommends Furmark over OCCT . I'll run it on build day for 12 minutes or so to set a baseline... and then maybe every 3, 6 or 12 months depending on what I notice, then compare against baseline... if number is significant, I'll drain loop, clean blocks, flush sytem and reapply TIM. But unless its like 3C or more, won't bother... on build day it was 39C at 1250, 44c at current pump and fan speeds... if it hits even 50...55 no reason to really care, other than will have unrestful nerd sleep.

As long as nVidia is stating no worries till ya hit 95C, and card vendor TS is saying no problems, I'm gonan continue to think of the dire warnings as FUD. You need a utility that's is going to present a constant load, otherwise your initial baseline is meaningless. In any case, throttling should keep you below 85 even. That's not saying that just start the utility and then go make dinner. It's only 12 minutes with large liquid mass to heat up to a stabilized temp ... air cooled should be under 5. You should be able to sit there for 5 minutes and make sure that no scary temps are reached... just stop the test if ya see anything ya dont like. Again, If you break around 82C, the card should throttle to protect itself.

https://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-750-ti/specifications

Testing is usually done at 23C . Your in Saudi Arabia ...

- At 92F (33C) air temperature, that means +10 on the test results means you should see Load = 72C / Load OC'd - 74C
- At 110F (43C) air temperature, that means +10 on the test results means you should see Load = 82C / Load OC'd - 84C

So if that's the indoor air temps you are dealing with, your temps are perfectly normal.

Step 1 - Check Indoor Air Temp... take the test results from above and add (your temp in C - 23C) and add it to Load = 62C / Load OC'd - 64C. If you are 40C, then (40 - 23) + 62 or 79C should be your normal number. No sense in going any further if the case is ambient temps.

Step 2 - What is case cooling situation ? How many fans of which size, rpm, make and model ? The fact that you see temp changes with case open, tells me that case cooling is inadequate. If you have empty fan mounts, add fans... intake fans should = exhaust fans x 1.5 ... 2 out and 3 in works well and wont suck hot exhaust ai back inside case.

Step 3 - is air flow around case restricted in any way as in anything blocking air circulation around PC ? If so remove.

Step 4 ... I generally only need to do this in SLI builds as w/o good circulation around / between the cards, top card will be as much as 10C higher on top card. "Dead air" down around the card location can result in elevated temps... Many cases have screw holes allowing you to mount a fan on back of HD cage. These can work woinders in such situations... You can also use something like the Antec "SpotCool" to address such conditions.

Step 5 - You can try changing the paste ... but let's consider the fact that this is a 60 watt card. It's a good idea, but I think only after exhausting the above alternatives.

 

[27MaD]

Testing is usually done at 23C . Your in Saudi Arabia ...

I don't live in the desert , i live in the middle of the most crowded city in Saudi Arabia , ACs everywhere , it's 26 Celsius outside , but i'll just change the thermal paste & see what happens.

 

[Ruru]

Heres' the Asus card (Load = 62C / Load OC'd - 64C)
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_750_Ti_OC/29.html

Keep in mind that OP doesn't have so sturdy cooler as this Asus 750 Ti has.

 

[27MaD]

Hello again , so guys i just changed the thermal paste , did the same stress test ,when the case is closed and it's OC it used to hit 83 Celsius , but now in the same conditions it hits 80 , so that's only 3 degrees decrease , as i expected.......

I need 2 X 120 mm case fans.