NVIDIA Presents the TITAN RTX 24GB Graphics Card at $2,499

[XXL_AI]

ROFL

+5% performance over 2080 Ti for +150% price.

try to use GTX/RTX level normal GPU for extensive workload such as deep learning training or machine learning analysis for a long, LONG time. then you'll see the difference.

I have 2 Titan X Pascals and they've been running for 1 year non-stop at fullpower for training and other simulations. no issues whatsoever but normal GTX 1080 failed within 4 months.

 

[SIGSEGV]

TITAN RTX has a grand total of 144 FP64 cores (negligible if your application really needs it). Tesla V100 has 2,560 FP64 cores.

holy moly, that's really negligible. This post really makes me ROFL. seriously

 

[Wavetrex]

Welcome to the birth of the ultimate monopoly.

2025 - nVidia buys Intel and TSMC
2030-2034 - nVintel buys what's left of Apple, IBM and other silicon companies
2035 - the megacorporation renames into NV-OCP
2042 - the NV-OCP builds and deploys an army of robotic police to keep protesting citizens in check
2048 - All world governments are being paid off by the hypercorporation.
2050 - ... and disbanded, leaving NV-OCP as the sole owner of the entire planet, using their AI machines to enslave everybody.

Please, keep buying video cards from nVidia in 2019 !

 

[EarthDog]

It was over what I thought ($2K) but that was also based on the thread that a user put out a few days ago with 12GB vRAM, etc.

Interesting that its priced LOWER than the Titan V. According to AT TU102 is cheaper to make than that due to not using HBM (among other things).

Anandtech has a lot more details and is an informative, not biased read (not that this read is bias, just canned PR) - https://www.anandtech.com/show/13668/nvidia-unveils-rtx-titan-2500-top-turing

 

[Vayra86]

It was over what I thought ($2K) but that was also based on the thread that a user put out a few days ago with 12GB vRAM, etc.

Interesting that its priced LOWER than the Titan V. According to AT TU102 is cheaper to make than that due to not using HBM (among other things).

Anandtech has a lot more details and is an informative, not biased read (not that this read is bias, just canned PR) - https://www.anandtech.com/show/13668/nvidia-unveils-rtx-titan-2500-top-turing

Given the die sizes that seems logical, too. 754 vs 815 mm2. Handicapped DP performance. Only a slight bump in Tensor perf. 2.5B less transistors.

 

[EarthDog]

It sure beats the sky high pricing other people guessed in that thread!

 

[Vayra86]

It sure beats the sky high pricing other people guessed in that thread!

I think thats a case of 'its over 1K so all bets are off anyway'. But there is actually a method to the madness...

 

[TheOne]

At least it's $500 cheaper than the last Titan.

 

[B-Real]

2500$, HAHAHAHA.

try to use GTX/RTX level normal GPU for extensive workload such as deep learning training or machine learning analysis for a long, LONG time. then you'll see the difference.

I have 2 Titan X Pascals and they've been running for 1 year non-stop at fullpower for training and other simulations. no issues whatsoever but normal GTX 1080 failed within 4 months.

Knowing how faster RTX cards are than Pascals, maybe a 30% increase in workloads for 2500$ is ....

 

[ShockG]

ROFL

+5% performance over 2080 Ti for +150% price.

2017 Nissan GTR Pure is ~ $101K
2017 Nisasan GTR Nismo ~ $177K
2017 Nissan GTR GT3 ~ $550K

You see this exact thing in the performance/super car market. From the pure model to the GT3, the difference in performance is literally 5% or there about and what's the price hike?
Car enthusiasts are almost never occupied with this argument, yet there are fewer people who can afford a $101K car vs. a $2500 USD GPU.

Now consider as well, that the GTR, in any shape is not the fastest Hyper/Super car there is. Compare that with the TITAN RTX which is literally the fastest GPU money can buy or has ever existed.

That's the nice thing about life in general, if you want something and have the money, you buy it. If you think the price is too much, you simply do not buy it. Nobody is forcing anyone to have an RTX GPU at any price. Even better, the introduction of a TITAN RTX doesn't make anybody else's TITAN GPU magically slower, you have the same performance you had yesterday at the price you thought was fair.

Not sure if it's a sense of entitlement on PC DIY 'enthusiasts' side, or just something beyond my ken, either way, it is curious for sure.

 

[Daven]

On a slightly different note, all of these high end 2000 series releases in such a short time makes me think that Nvidia is going to support the non-RTX mainstream and budget markets with the 1000 series. It was rumored that 2000 series below the RTX 2070 would not support ray-tracing so it would stand to reason that Nvidia will try to clear inventory and support the 1050/1060/1070/1080 as their low end simultaneously with the 2070/2080/2080 Ti/Titan RTX. Hopefully that might come with price cuts on the 1000 series cards.

 

[EarthDog]

I recall reading somewhere they stopped producing the 1080Ti already........but nothing was confirmed. It was speculation.

If you look around, you'd notice that the whole lot of 1000 series cards prices are up, particularly the 1080Ti which is now no cheaper than $1100 on newegg... where it was like ~$800 give or take a bit pre RTX release.

 

[TheOne]

It sure beats the sky high pricing other people guessed in that thread!

I guessed between $2000 - $4000, what do I win, also most seemed to guess $3000, which seems reasonable given Titan V, much more realistic than below $2000.

 

[phill]

Damn, I was $1 out.....

 

[bogami]

I was expecting a $ 1,500 price, come 2550$ (in europa will be 3000€) conjunction with a very well-known overkill evaluation based on the 2080ti . ill said !"overestimated"! And they are wealthy people who do not know how hard it is to earn thet much and there are some buzzing about the real price here. Most people who make reviews just mention too high a price, but the rest of the bad product is muted, I would say they are doing more advertising then reviews ! The reality is completely lost ! Many do not see the purpose of this processor's constructions ! Where the GPU is in the last place !
Cards are bad full of bugs!! Trash is sold to us! The processor is not completely cut out properly in moust cards. So those who do not know how nVidia robs ppl with price for useless products and it's called: hay end! They have not worked in life yet. nGridia would be fighting name for nVidia !

 

[jabbadap]

I recall reading somewhere they stopped producing the 1080Ti already........but nothing was confirmed. It was speculation.

If you look around, you'd notice that the whole lot of 1000 series cards prices are up, particularly the 1080Ti which is now no cheaper than $1100 on newegg... where it was like ~$800 give or take a bit pre RTX release.

Pascals are on hold because of over stock from Crypto-hangover. Not necessary gtx1080ti though, but I don't think Nvidia is very keen to make those anymore. Granted making gp102s does not take valuable resources from RTX line manufacturing(16nm, gddr5x etc.). But is it really wise to compete with itself, when they really need growing market share for RT cards to make it take off.

 

[xorbe]

All the pent up deep pocket demand already bought 2080 Ti cards. Even if it had been $1500 it's too late for any to be interested, imho. At $2500 only those with a true need for 24GB will buy.

 

[a.Cyg]

Actually I am surprised they chose to put 24 GB in this. I guess you can only get so far in pushing that exponential price increase without any added value.



The government shouldn't do anything about it. I've always said it, the market is mostly self regulated.

Competition only works when you have a buying force with common sense. Companies have mostly overcame that nowadays. People are more mindless with their money, worship brands and would pay whatever amount they ask for. Look at Nike, Apple, Nvidia, Intel, etc.

 

[Liviu Cojocaru]

I am not even stressing about this anymore, it is what it is...AMD nowhere near the performance so no competition so these numbers are not that shocking anymore. Maybe when Intel steps in we will see a change or who knows maybe 2019 will be AMD's year )

 

[EarthDog]

Pascals are on hold because of over stock from Crypto-hangover. Not necessary gtx1080ti though, but I don't think Nvidia is very keen to make those anymore. Granted making gp102s does not take valuable resources from RTX line manufacturing(16nm, gddr5x etc.). But is it really wise to compete with itself, when they really need growing market share for RT cards to make it take off.

That may be part of it... but these weren't exactly good for mining in the first place... so how much does that really matter?

If there was a lot of supply as you seem to be alluding to, then the price should be lower... it isn't though. Demand is high...but so are the prices now.

Competition only works when you have a buying force with common sense. Companies have mostly overcame that nowadays. People are more mindless with their money, worship brands and would pay whatever amount they ask for. Look at Nike, Apple, Nvidia, Intel, etc.

If only there was actually competition though... There isn't in that space. I also disagree that a lot of it is about brand 'worship'. Judging from the incessant complaining about pricing from the forums, one would think the majority of users would go AMD due to its price to performance ratio that some loooooooooooove to follow. But anything faster than a 1080, there isn't anything in that space. That doesn't say much for the price of the lower end 1000 series compared to V56/65 or the rehash of a rehash 590...though I am sure my point is clear.

I am not even stressing about this anymore, it is what it is...AMD nowhere near the performance so no competition so these numbers are not that shocking anymore. Maybe when Intel steps in we will see a change or who knows maybe 2019 will be AMD's year )

 

[Liviu Cojocaru]

If only there was actually competition though... There isn't in that space.

Yep...

 

[btarunr]

Well, so it's not 0 thanks. It's not negligible, a couple of hundred GFLOPs are still a lot compared to most CPUs out there when it comes to double precision floating point arithmetic.

Who said anything about CPU? Would you buy four TITAN RTX cards for $10,000 (4x 144 = 576 FP64 cores), or one Tesla V100 for the same price (2560 FP64 cores)?

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

why bother complaining to the govt when they do not put regulations on tech? You want it to grow? then don't consider or impose federal regulations! This is the "beauty" of the free market. Also, lack of heated competition = free kickbacks to those who claimed their products are deemed "very good" over their competitors who sells similar products. FYI, This full-fat TU102 core based GPU having a $2500 price tag is nowhere as expensive as the GTX Titan Volta... and that $3k card isn't fast enough against Turing in real-time ray tracing. Also, no one is telling you to go out & buy one now just because your still working Pascal or Maxwell cards are "slower"... Everything in this world has a price. Either we suck it up or go complain at your friends/S.O for the little things just because we were too stupid burning our pockets at overpriced phones, cars we can't pay on time etc.

 

[willace]

OH NO! Now 2080 Ti won't be the most powerfull GPU! What are we 2080 ti owners gonna do?!

ROFL, nice job, fanboys. Retardish maserrace lead to titans being priced as the whole top-tier PC, from now, on.
Keep buying this stuff at that prices - I beleive in you, make huang release Titan $$$ for 10000$!

P.S. However, I beleive, there's still decent amount of smart users - otherwise, it should have been released at 5000$ mark.

Well, I was expecting it to be $5000 and up, so pretty sure a year later, we will get a "Titan T" that is $5000.

 

[Mistral]

Is it as reliable as the other cards in the RTX series?