Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[HTC]

what are people using to test ram OC? i keep finding 99% stable stuff that crashes games eventually

This dude uses custom prime 95 blend with high RAM allocation: seems to work even with dual rank RAM.

That topic is a rather large one and mostly doesn't apply to "normal OCing situations", since it goes beyond that, but has some useful information for timings / voltages.

The pics he posts are hard to read in a PC but perfectly readable when seen from cellphone, thanks to zooming.

@btarunr : since you have dual rank RAM, suggest you check it out as well as it may have some tips for your particular timing / stability situation.

 

[Super XP]

bleh, thats what i want to avoid

the games i play arent happy with a crash and a restart, pubg is not forgiving like that

The worst part is when you are doing so well or you are in a crucial stand off in game, then all of a sudden it crashes. Lol, that's equivalent to

 

[Mussels]

i play forged alliance campaign when bored (takes a lot less time at +6 speed) so i can lose 2-3 hours of 'game time' with a single crash, due to lack of auto save or checkpoints

 

[Super XP]

i play forged alliance campaign when bored (takes a lot less time at +6 speed) so i can lose 2-3 hours of 'game time' with a single crash, due to lack of auto save or checkpoints

Wow 2 to 3 hours. That's a lot. I play PREY, DOOM and the entire Metro series. The only online game I dabble with is currently L4D2. So for me crashes are annoying but doesn't lose time 4me.

Metro on ultra high at 2K 144Hz used to TAX my late FX 8350, now with my Ryzen, it plays much Smoother.

 

[Mussels]

a single mission in the game (not theres only like 6 levels, so they're meant to be long) can take around 4 hours at +0 speed

When the game came out i had a core 2 quad Q6600, and we'd see -4 during MP matches lol
These days i can smash it out at +5 and get some nostalgia without the time sink

 

[Super XP]

Very Nice.
And this game was released in 2011?
Ryzen made a huge difference in PC Gaming. I now see how nice my 2K 144Hz monitor looks like in game. No stutters no nothing.

UserBenchmarks: Game 76%, Desk 94%, Work 99%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X - 87.9%
GPU: AMD RX 580 - 74.7%
SSD: Corsair Force MP500 NVMe PCIe M.2 480GB - 156.5%
SSD: Corsair Force 3 180GB - 53.9%
HDD: WD Green 1TB (2010) - 58.6%
RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z DDR4 3200 C16 2x16GB - 108.2%
MBD: Asrock X370 Gaming X

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Thanks,
I wonder if I should push the Ram a little bit more.

OK so I tried out some configurations with my RAM. And found this to be stable.
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I tried setting the timings at 16-17-17-17-38-56 at DDR3400 but was unstable, despite booting into Windows with no issues. So I bumped up the settings to 16-18-18-18-38-56 (Default for the Ram) and its running smooth with a boost in performance.

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/12746607

That's where i have settled at exactly with the same timings @3400 and its been stable for me ,any higher or tighter has slight issues 115% userbench

 

[Super XP]

That's where i have settled at exactly with the same timings @3400 and its been stable for me ,any higher or tighter has slight issues 115% userbench

I set it up at 3200 with 16-17-17-17 to see the score vs. 3400 with 16-18-18-18. Both seem to have similar performance.

 

[Mussels]

new update for my board is out with agesa 1.0.0.6, it also fixed the broken/laggy lighting on my RGB ram

feelsgoodman.jpg

 

[Hockster]

UserBenchmarks: Game 155%, Desk 141%, Work 145%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X - 103.3%
GPU: Nvidia RTX 2080 Ti - 210.3%
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 500GB - 269.9%
SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB - 132.1%
SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 1TB - 132.4%
SSD: Samsung 860 Evo 1TB - 130.3%
RAM: Corsair CMW16GX4M2C3200C16 4x8GB - 96.7%
MBD: Asus ROG CROSSHAIR VII HERO

new update for my board is out with agesa 1.0.0.6, it also fixed the broken/laggy lighting on my RGB ram

feelsgoodman.jpg

And the Asus update with the new Agesa broke my ram communication with iCUE.

 

[Mussels]

something went weird with the new icue, i lost all RGB ram support until i reflashed the BIOS

maybe update icue to the latest build, and reflash again?

 

[Hockster]

I had the latest version of icue when I flashed the BIOS. That's when it broke. Asus forums has a few reports of the C7H breaking the ram control with the new BIOS. But Corsair adding in hardware lighting profile did seem to cause a lot of issues. I'll take the loss of ram lighting over the horrible unicorn vomit that was forced on us at startup/shutdown though.

 

[Mussels]

the latest one that just came out, added hardware lighting to a bunch of new devices and broke/fixed everything for me

 

[Hockster]

I finally didn't have any issues with a version of icue until I upgraded BIOS. Figures.

 

[Mussels]

3.10.125, to be clear. its brand spanking new and causing as many issues as it fixes, but its given hardware lighting control for my node pro, so i can save effects to it that work on startup - in my case i went with flat white, but you could also save an 'off' profile and go dark on exit which is nice

 

[Hockster]

That's the one. It was released a day before I did my BIOS. I did a lot of messing around in icue on that version setting hardware profiles and whatnot. I know definitely my ram was detected in icue before the flash.

 

[Mussels]

i found a few buried away settings in the "AMD CBS" stuff in the BIOS and fiddled, so check if they help you

Main three i changed (not 100% on wording)
DDR4 power down (disabled)
Geardown mode (disabled)
DDR4 SPD read (Something) (auto)

If you have SPD write as an option, make sure its enabled. My board doesnt have that, but people were saying it was a needed function for the hardware lighting.

 

[Hockster]

I'll poke my nose in there. but I suspect Asus will have different names.

Edit: Found the first two settings and made the changes, but couldn't find anything similar to DDR SPD read anywhere. But still no lighting control.

 

[Hockster]

I flashed back to the 1002 BIOS and my ram is back in icue.

 

[Johan45]

what are people using to test ram OC? i keep finding 99% stable stuff that crashes games eventually

This dude uses custom prime 95 blend with high RAM allocation: seems to work even with dual rank RAM.

That topic is a rather large one and mostly doesn't apply to "normal OCing situations", since it goes beyond that, but has some useful information for timings / voltages.

The pics he posts are hard to read in a PC but perfectly readable when seen from cellphone, thanks to zooming.

@btarunr : since you have dual rank RAM, suggest you check it out as well as it may have some tips for your particular timing / stability situation.

I didn't read the link but that's what I do, 2-3 hours P95 with 75% of ram set, then when that's done I'll add in heaven on a loop for another couple of hours. So far no crashes in well over a yaer

 

[HTC]

I didn't read the link but that's what I do, 2-3 hours P95 with 75% of ram set, then when that's done I'll add in heaven on a loop for another couple of hours. So far no crashes in well over a yaer

When he's using 32GB RAM, he uses around 29GB for prime 95 (IIRC), so that's quite a bit more than 75%, but i dunno the exact ratio he uses and i can't check the link right now: dunno why.

The dude in question is Chew*, from XtremeSystems forums: a well respected professional AMD overclocker.

I also remember him doing similar but actually using both simultaneously on a loop for quite large amount of time periods, for stability testing (usually 24 hours): remember it from one of his videos.

 

[Johan45]

At 29 GB that would put him in the 90% range but the method is sound, at least for me. I do believe with the all the IO on die that the CPU needs more than just standard testing. With the addition of heaven it hits more systems than just RAM and CPU also gives a good idea of temps after a sustained run.

 

[GoldenX]

Handbrake managed some really high temps for me when overclocking.

 

[HTC]

Here's a video of chew* doing 3200MHz RAM 4*8GB with mismatched SPDs on a CH6 board using a Ryzen 1400: notice the date the video was posted.

During the video, he shows his settings 1st but later goes to defaults to show how to get to the settings he had previously.

Here's another video using 32GB RAM, this time with a Taichi board. Again, notice the date the video was posted.

 

[Arrakis9]

what are people using to test ram OC? i keep finding 99% stable stuff that crashes games eventually

HCI memtest with an automated script:

https://www.overclock.net/forum/18051-memory/1703708-automating-hci-memtest-no-more-frustration.html

I'll usually run that to 200% to make sure basic stability is a non issue then follow up with some high FPS/heavy cpu bound games such as counterstrike or team fortress 2

I actually just upgraded to agesa 1.0.0.6 and am in the process of re tuning my ram hoping to actually get 3333 or 3466 fully stable this time.