NVIDIA DLSS Test in Final Fantasy XV

Gasaraki · Dec 13, 2018

Disappointing that it only supports 4K resolutions.

kastriot · Dec 13, 2018

Well maybe they should use 4x/16x of native resolution and then send it to AI cores and then we wouldn't have loss of detail, darn i forgot Ai cores are too weak for that

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trog100 · Dec 13, 2018

at 4k its all about getting playable frame rates not about nit picking side by side image quality comparisons..

trog

Nkd · Dec 13, 2018

newtekie1 said:
Bul.

You seriously can't be serious trying to say this garbage:
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Is sharper and has same detail as this:
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And this:
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Is sharper with the same detail as this:
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All the detail of the textures is totally lost with DLSS. It looks like the texture quality settings is set to low with DSLL and high with TXAA. Look at the plants, they just look like green blobs with DSLL.

Even when you look at things up close:
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The bricks on the closest wall look worse with DLSS, like the texture is blurry. And the bricks on the far wall, through the grates looks like a blurry mess, and the leaves look terrible too.

You honestly will never be able to convince anyone. People support their bias more than facts on the internet. Its pretty damn clear from those pictures that it looks washed out compared to native resolution. Honestly Nvidia knows it but they also know eyes can easily be deceived cuz no one will look at it with detail. All they will see is numbers and say oh I guess it looks alright lol.

newtekie1 · Dec 13, 2018

trog100 said:
at 4k its all about getting playable frame rates not about nit picking side by side image quality comparisons..

trog

If that is all that matters, people would just play at 1440p or 1080p and let their monitor do the upscaling. In the end, you still get a 4k image. But the reality is image quality matters.

Nkd · Dec 13, 2018

trog100 said:
at 4k its all about getting playable frame rates not about nit picking side by side image quality comparisons..

trog

They why not just lower quality to begin with and run it at native resolution? lol!

MuhammedAbdo · Dec 13, 2018

newtekie1 said:
The bricks on the closest wall look worse with DLSS, like the texture is blurry. And the bricks on the far wall, through the grates looks like a blurry mess, and the leaves look terrible too.

Terrible? they are virtually indistinguishable .. get off your AMD bias.

trog100 · Dec 13, 2018

i dont think i said image quality didnt matter.. of course it does.. nit picking over miner highly subjective details dosnt though..

trog

T4C Fantasy · Dec 13, 2018

4K MAX Settings DLSS

no complaints from me, 2080 Ti, also one of my fav games i avg 63 fps in battles

TheGuruStud · Dec 13, 2018

Better off with fxaa. MOAR blur, now with upscaling to kill detail further. TAA, TXAA, doesn't matter. It's unusable in any game. Gives me a headache and looks like I'm wasted.

Leave it to nvidia to destroy IQ and call it a feature.

newtekie1 · Dec 13, 2018

MuhammedAbdo said:
Terrible? they are virtually indistinguishable .. get off your AMD bias.

Indistinguishable? No, not even close. The difference literally looks like the difference between high texture settings and the lowest possible.

trog100 said:
i dont think i said image quality didnt matter.. of course it does.. nit picking over miner highly subjective details dosnt though..

trog

You literally said it was "all" about playable framerates. If it is all about one thing, then anything else, ie image quality, doesn't matter.

mat9v · Dec 13, 2018

I would love to see one more comparison, DLSS vs TAA with lower textures and lower complexity - it would roughly equal what DLSS is giving us. What FPS would we get then in native 4K?

trog100 · Dec 13, 2018

newtekie1 said:
Indistinguishable? No, not even close. The difference literally looks like the difference between high texture settings and the lowest possible.

You literally said it was "all" about playable framerates. If it is all about one thing, then anything else, ie image quality, doesn't matter.

i left some obvious things unsaid.. he he he..

at 4k a 30% performance gain with a few nit picks as regards image quality is well worth having.. but then again we are talking about the nvidia 20xx series with all the the hate baggage that goes with it..

trog

tvamos · Dec 13, 2018

Really looks like s#it to me, total loss of details all across all images. Should have simply name it Blur instead.

T4C Fantasy · Dec 13, 2018

trog100 said:
i left some obvious things unsaid.. he he he..

at 4k a 30% performance gain with a few nit picks as regards image quality is well worth having.. but then again we are talking about the nvidia 20xx series with all the the hate baggage that goes with it..

trog

I actually play the game too, quality if it went down at all is not noticable at all, most textures are sharper and none are actually jagged in gameplay

Darksword · Dec 13, 2018

So basically, DLSS and Ray Tracing both suck?

:shadedshu:

cellar door · Dec 13, 2018

I agree with the sentiment that @trog100 brought up - @ 4K, it is more important to have higher FPS and a more stable/fluid experience. Slight loss in quality is acceptable.

Without DLSS, the user has to manually lower graphical settings anyway to get to the same framerate/fluid experience. Which in turn will result in even more noticeably lower image quality.

At the end of the day the real issue with DLSS is that is is limited to 4K only and available in just a single title right now.

moproblems99 · Dec 13, 2018

T4C Fantasy said:
I actually play the game too, quality if it went down at all is not noticable at all, most textures are sharper and none are actually jagged in gameplay

Are you upscaling or native 4k though? In either case, I think the screenshots look fine.

Vya Domus · Dec 13, 2018

trog100 said:
at 4k its all about getting playable frame rates not about nit picking side by side image quality comparisons..

Here's the catch, this isn't 4K, nor does it look like 4K. It looks very much like a straight upscale from 1440p because that's essentially what this is.

T4C Fantasy · Dec 13, 2018

moproblems99 said:
Are you upscaling or native 4k though? In either case, I think the screenshots look fine.

native 4k

Xzibit · Dec 13, 2018

Vya Domus said:
Here's the catch, this isn't 4K, nor does it look like 4K. It looks very much like a straight upscale from 1440p because that's essentially what this is.

Yup. It uses less samples then TAA and isnt suppose to be as good just "close enough".

Nvidia said:
DLSS allows faster rendering at a lower input sample count, and then infers a result that at target resolution is similar quality to the TAA result, but with roughly half the shading work.

Basard · Dec 13, 2018

They should have just doubled the RT cores and Ditched the Tensor cores.

T4C Fantasy · Dec 13, 2018

i have a benchmark that i love, lets do it i will add your scores ^_^
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/post-your-final-fantasy-xv-benchmark-results.242200/

sneekypeet · Dec 14, 2018

Thread cleansed. Stay on topic if you would rather not earn your way to a vacation

Xuper · Dec 14, 2018

MuhammedAbdo said:
Terrible? they are virtually indistinguishable .. get off your AMD bias.

His rig is 8700K + GTX 1080Ti.

moproblems99 said:
Are you upscaling or native 4k though? In either case, I think the screenshots look fine.

SS is ok but It's really depend on situation.1440p+TA (88fps) vs DLSS ( 67fps). anyway looks like DLSS removes more shadows than other methods.

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