Why doesn't my new desktop PC have a "Fast Boot" option in the BIOS?

[grecinos]

Hey folks,

I recently purchased an I Buy Power desktop with Windows 10 Pro 64-bit. It's working great, I love it. But there's one issue I've yet to resolve. It has an MSI A320M Pro-VH PLUS motherboard. The BIOS doesn't have a "fast boot" option. I've updated the BIOS firmware to the latest version. I've also contacted both I Buy Power and MSI, but neither could explain why the option doesn't exist. For the moment, it takes about 1 minute to cold boot. Has anyone else experienced the same problem and have a resolution? Otherwise any and all advice is welcome.

Here's a screen capture of the Motherboard details:

 

[eidairaman1]

Is it in the manual?

 

[grecinos]

Is it in the manual?

No. No mention of it in the manual.

 

[Mussels]

My MSI x370 had fast boot, but it was still really slow compared to my old intel systems

Has windows been installed in UEFI mode, and fast boot is enabled in windows itself?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I would never recommend turning it on. The fraction of a second it saves in boot time isn't worth the headaches.

1 minutes to cold boot is ridiculous. Run Task Manager and go to the Startup tab. See what is listed on there with a high boot impact and stop them if you can. Usually long boot times are due to a device that's not responding in a timely fashion, especially on USB. Try unplugging devices until you find the culprit.

 

[eidairaman1]

I would never recommend turning it on. The fraction of a second it saves in boot time isn't worth the headaches.

Better results on SSD and a tuned OS are more plausible than UEFI...

 

[grecinos]

Mussels:
Yes. Windows has been installed in UEFI mode. I believe fast boot is enabled in windows. How can I confirm?

FordGT90Concept:
I have the following USB devices connected:
1.) External USB 3.0 Seagate HD
2.) USB Wireless-AC adapter
3.) USB Bluetooth dongle

I'll try disconnecting them and see what happens.

eidairaman1:
I'm currently using a 1TB Samsung SSD for the OS and apps.

 

[biffzinker]

Fast boot might be tied into the Windows 10 WHQL option. Secure Boot is in a submenu under the above option.

 

[Mussels]

definitely remove the USB hard drive, external storage is a big slowdown for boot times

 

[grecinos]

Fast boot might be tied into the Windows 10 WHQL option. Secure Boot is in a submenu under the above option.

When I contacted MSI tech support, he warned not to enable the "Windows 10 WHQL" option. Something to the effect that it could render the system un-bootable. What baffles me is that "Fast Boot" is nowhere to be found in the BIOS settings. Perhaps you're right and that it's absent due to an option, currently disabled.

 

[eidairaman1]

definitely remove the USB hard drive, external storage is a big slowdown for boot times

Especially if the controller is bad.

Didn't have trouble with them on my laptop but as long as you don't have OS bootfiles on there and it's a slave drive only...

 

[Bill_Bright]

It might be named something different. With my Gigabyte, it is under "Memory Boot Mode". Also, disabling displaying the Logo can help. That said,

For the moment, it takes about 1 minute to cold boot.

What do you have loading at boot?

 

[grecinos]

Bill_Bright:

I have tried disabling the Boot Logo, but it made no difference.
As per the software that I have loading at boot... The usual stuff, hardware drivers, anti-virus, SSD monitoring software, etc. It's the same software I had installed on my laptop that I was using prior to this desktop PC. Suffice it to say, the laptop booted up in seconds.

 

[eidairaman1]

Id put another drive in without os beingsetup for fastboot.

@Solaris17 Solarisany ideas of something borked in the OS?

Do you know how to switch from easy/advanced mode?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Is it long before or after you see the Windows logo pop up?

Please fill out your System Specs (click your username at the top of the page then System Specs).

Also please provide a screen capture of your Task Manager -> Startup tab like this:

 

[eidairaman1]

I just tried to see if there is a full manual, there is not, what a poor excuse of quality from msi...

Your best bet is ask here
https://www.msi.com/page/forum

Also registering your product for technical support here
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/A320M-PRO-VH-PLUS#down-manual

 

[theFOoL]

You in the latest bios? As mentioned to others fast boot is just a tread of sorts. If you have Windows on a SSD then all should be fine. Heck I don't have fast boot on my 775 build and it boots in 5 seconds and I have a lot of devices connected

 

[eidairaman1]

You in the latest bios? As mentioned to others fast boot is just a tread of sorts. If you have Windows on a SSD then all should be fine. Heck I don't have fast boot on my 775 build and it boots in 5 seconds and I have a lot of devices connected

775 never had it.

Boards as of Skt 1150/AM2+/AM3 Should.

 

[theFOoL]

775 never had it.

Boards as of Skt 1150/AM2+/AM3 Should.

I was referring to you guys...

 

[Bill_Bright]

SSD monitoring software

If you mean Samsung Magician, I recommend you uninstall that and see what happens. Windows knows how to manage and properly use SSDs just fine. Extra software is not needed. I stopped using Samsung Magician several years ago after it kept messing with my power options. No regrets not using it. The only time I might use it now is to run Secure Erase on a SSD that will go to a new owner.

I run Samsung SSDs on all systems here, none with Magician enable and all running just fine without - and with boot times of seconds.

 

[Cvrk]

i think they removed fast boot in windows ...and it has been removed for more than 2 years now....2017, if I am not mistaken.
It was under Power management in Advanced. I remember I searched for it to turn it off cuz it just causing all sorts of issues.

Windows remembers God knows what and in fast boot it used to open previously closed apps and it remembered other stuff,.

Basically when you restart or power down the computer you suppose to fix stuff. A power circle will fix so many things. Not with fast boot it wont cuz it remembered he bad stuff before the restart. I always like to start clean when I open my computer, so i had that disabled, but in new builds they have not added it back,
Apparently it was causing issues not just foe me, but other users as well.

Anyways. Why would you need it? Why anybody will ever need it? Having a SSD is fast enough.
Only old people press on the power button and stand there in front of the screen counting the seconds waiting for the whole thing to load.

 

[newtekie1]

I think people are getting confused between Fast Startup and Fast Boot.

Fast Startup is a Windows function, that hibernates the system instead of fully shutting it down, to make Windows boot faster.

Fast Boot is a function of some UEFI BIOSes that skips a lot of the POST checks to make the POST faster. Mainly, it skips reading and booting from USB devices, but it can also skip other things to the point that the computer might never even give you enough time to press the certain button to get into the UEFI configuration screen. Meaning the only way to get there is to reboot Windows with Left Shift held down and select reboot into UEFI Setup or if the certain motherboard manufacturer provides an app to reboot into UEFI Setup.

It is very likely that the OPs board simply does not have a Fast Boot option in the UEFI. Not all motherboards have it, especially the lower end boards.

 

[Solaris17]

Id put another drive in without os beingsetup for fastboot.

@Solaris17 Solarisany ideas of something borked in the OS?

Do you know how to switch from easy/advanced mode?

It might not be Os related at all that wouldnt affect the option not existing in bios.

on MSI boards it should be F7 for advanced mode, should be under security options. Maybe the OP can upload some pictures of his BIOS pages so we can navigate him to where it generally is. Or atleast tell him if he is in advanced mode or not. On his if F7 doesnt work it should be a button at the top of the main bios page.

 

[silentbogo]

or the moment, it takes about 1 minute to cold boot.

Fastboot ain't gonna solve it. Some boards are this way, and MSI is not known for supporting their low and mid-tier products very well.
Older Gigabyte was even worse, cause their low[-er]-end dual-bios boards would go through POST process twice before booting (15-20sec before you even see a POST screen).
Some delays are caused by Windows itself. I've noticed that after 1809 my PC is booting even slower. on 16xx I'd be up and running under 20sec off my NVME drive, and now it takes nearly 40sec from the time I push the button to the time I see login screen.

BTW, have you tried to switch to advanced mode (F7)?
Damn, @Solaris17 beat me. Gotta refresh screen more often =)

 

[jboydgolfer]

its not a solution to your question, but if its of any consolation, every time i ever enable fast boot, it causes issues. As recently as Z370. your better off without it.