Why doesn't my new desktop PC have a "Fast Boot" option in the BIOS?

[grecinos]

I have to step away from my workstation, but will be back later today to respond to your suggestions. In the meantime, Here's what the EZ Mode, Advanced and Security settings look like. (I had to take photos with my camera because the BIOS had problems taking screen shots. Sorry for the poor quality).

 

[theFOoL]

775 never had it.

Boards as of Skt 1150/AM2+/AM3 Should.

My MB [P5G41-M LE] has "Quick Boot" but as I disable it I saw the slightest degrees in boot time which I re-enabled it

 

[jboydgolfer]

the BIOS had problems taking screen shots.

Be sure u have a thumb drive inserted for screenshots, then hit f12 or whatever it is for your board, unless there is a different issue of course.

 

[newtekie1]

I have to step away from my workstation, but will be back later today to respond to your suggestions. In the meantime, Here's what the EZ Mode, Advanced and Security settings look like. (I had to take photos with my camera because the BIOS had problems taking screen shots. Sorry for the poor quality).

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Fast Boot is not going to be under Security, it has nothing to do with security. It is going to be somewhere under Boot settings.

 

[biffzinker]

Your best option for speeding up the POST time is turning off all legacy options, and turning on the Windows 10 WHQL Support.


Edit: Next time all you need to do is insert a FAT32 formatted flash drive then hit F12 (camera up top between EZ mode and Lanuage.)

 

[grecinos]

As per the screenshots, I tried using a thumb drive, but it returned an error message. Perhaps the thumb drive was NTFS formatted. Will have to try one that is FAT32 formatted.

As I mentioned before, I was warned not to enable Windows 10 WHQL. I'm not sure how much merit that holds, though. I think I'll wait till tomorrow and make a system image before turning the option on. Will let you know how that goes.

 

[moproblems99]

Does the 2700X really have Vcore of 1.4?

 

[toyo]

As I mentioned before, I was warned not to enable Windows 10 WHQL. I'm not sure how much merit that holds, though. I think I'll wait till tomorrow and make a system image before turning the option on. Will let you know how that goes.

Without that option, you won't be able to enable what you want. Nor Secure Boot.

I cannot guarantee what that option will do for YOUR PC, but on my PC, I always used it, with both Secure Boot and Fast boot, not once did it create issues.

Also Fast Boot should not be confuses with Fast Startup in Windows.

 

[grecinos]

Without that option, you won't be able to enable what you want. Nor Secure Boot.

When you enabled WHQL in your bios, did the fast boot options show up? Or were those options always there?

 

[eidairaman1]

Your best option for speeding up the POST time is turning off all legacy options, and turning on the Windows 10 WHQL Support.
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Edit: Next time all you need to do is insert a FAT32 formatted flash drive then hit F12 (camera up top between EZ mode and Lanuage.)

I leave Legacy options enabled on my board never seem to have hindered any form of performance even with boot times then again I run a ASUS Sabertooth board

 

[toyo]

When you enabled WHQL in your bios, did the fast boot options show up? Or were those options always there?

Gave it a shot with WHQL disabled, and i could still enable Fast Boot. You will lose the UEFI-Only mode and Secure Boot without activating WHQL, and with them some Defender features.

 

[MrGenius]

...and with them some Defender features.

Wait...what? What does Defender have to do with booting?

 

[toyo]

Wait...what? What does Defender have to do with booting?

TPM, UEFI-only mode, Secure Boot, Core Isolation/Memory Integrity, it's basically the whole VBS/Virtualization Based Security and Device Guard thing. Kind of intertwined. Check the Device Security page.

To add some details, Defender divides devices on how secure it thinks they are. For example, TPM+Memory Integrity+Secure Boot=Device meets enhanced hardware security requirements or something.
No Memory Integrity (which is kinda buggy in RS5), and you have the Standard Hardware Security layer.
No TPM, Standard Hardware Security not Supported, even with Secure Boot. Pretty sure that it can fail other stuff in the UEFI BIOS.

Edit: even more details

Your device meets the requirements for standard hardware security
This means your device supports memory integrity and core isolation and also has:

• TPM 2.0 (also referred to as your security processor)
• Secure boot enabled
• DEP
• UEFI MAT

Standard hardware security not supported
This means that your device does not meet at least one of the requirements of standard hardware security.

Your device meets the requirements for enhanced hardware security
This means that in addition to meeting all the requirements of standard hardware security, your device also has memory integrity turned on

 

[phanbuey]

ah the old MSI "my 14 year old who loves starcraft skinned my bios" bios.

 

[MrGenius]

TPM, UEFI-only mode, Secure Boot, Core Isolation/Memory Integrity, it's basically the whole VBS/Virtualization Based Security and Device Guard thing. Kind of intertwined. Check the Device Security page.

To add some details, Defender divides devices on how secure it thinks they are. For example, TPM+Memory Integrity+Secure Boot=Device meets enhanced hardware security requirements or something.
No Memory Integrity (which is kinda buggy in RS5), and you have the Standard Hardware Security layer.
No TPM, Standard Hardware Security not Supported, even with Secure Boot. Pretty sure that it can fail other stuff in the UEFI BIOS.

Edit: even more details

So...Defender has nothing to do with booting really. Other than giving you some kind of higher security rating with secure boot enabled. Since none of those things are "intertwined" with, or related to, the functionality of Defender in any way shape or form. As are all separate entities. But having them all working at the same time will earn you a "you're super secure now" message from Defender. Neat...

 

[toyo]

So...Defender has nothing to do with booting really. Other than giving you some kind of higher security rating with secure boot enabled. Since none of those things are "intertwined" with, or related to, the functionality of Defender in any way shape or form. As are all separate entities. But having them all working at the same time will earn you a "you're super secure now" message from Defender. Neat...

How you boot directly affects Defender, so I'd say my statement is correct, regardless of how useful or not those features might be.

 

[Cvrk]

@newtekie1 so that's what it was
then i ain't got it

 

[newtekie1]

@newtekie1 so that's what it was
then i ain't got it

You might not have Fast Boot in your BIOS, but you definitely have Fast Startup in Windows. Microsoft has not removed it.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I would never recommend turning it on. The fraction of a second it saves in boot time isn't worth the headaches.

its not a solution to your question, but if its of any consolation, every time i ever enable fast boot, it causes issues. As recently as Z370. your better off without it.

Have to agree. Fastboot will not solve the problems described and is generally better left disabled. However, a 1 minute cold boot time is not a big deal.

 

[grecinos]

I seem to remember jotting down that enabling WHQL doesn't resolve the fast (cold) boot issue. So, for the moment, i'm going to hold off.

 

[eidairaman1]

Have to agree. Fastboot will not solve the problems described and is generally better left disabled. However, a 1 minute cold boot time is not a big deal.

Yeah thats nothing. I use 7 and it boots up cold around that time. Still quick lol

 

[lexluthermiester]

Yeah thats nothing. I use 7 and it boots up cold around that time. Still quick lol

Heck on an SSD with my system, boot up time for Win7 is about 40 seconds. On Win10 it's 35 seconds. An extra few seconds just isn't a big deal when you're only booting up once a day.

 

[eidairaman1]

Heck on an SSD with my system, boot up time for Win7 is about 40 seconds. On Win10 it's 35 seconds. An extra few seconds just isn't a big deal when you're only booting up once a day.

I believe mine is ballpark around that time but idk, i just know when i booted it the second time in 2014 it was snappy

 

[grecinos]

Heck on an SSD with my system, boot up time for Win7 is about 40 seconds. On Win10 it's 35 seconds. An extra few seconds just isn't a big deal when you're only booting up once a day.

Yea. I'm spoiled from my laptops, they boot in under 20 seconds. For the moment, I'll cold boot when I get up in the morning and put it to sleep when I step away. In the meantime, maybe MSI will update the firmware to enable the Fast Boot option.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

RAID config can take 5+ seconds by itself. If you're not using RAID, you can change the SATA controller to AHCI eliminating the config prompt saving that time.