Intel Achieves Gender Pay Equity Globally

[Nkd]

Pay gap is real. I have already stated this. AT&T doesn’t want people talking about pay. But we do because we give a damn about one another. Even the new guys tell me it’s bullshit. And they feel bad how I have been working in the same position for 4 years is making less. Only because I was an existing employee when I transferred in to that position.

Now here is the thing if I quit and go work for another company for a year and come back I can skip a few spots and my management will hire me back at much higher rate lol. It’s the upper leadership that fails and the HR department. Our managers don’t even blame us if we quit and leave. They actually support us lol.

 

[phanbuey]

So my post calling out people for being terrible gets deleted, but the misogynistic, unsourced rubbish posted by the same people gets left up? (No, Jordan Peterson's drivel doesn't count as "evidence", nor do your rambling anecdotes about how the two women you know are terrible people. Perhaps they're terrible because you are.)

Shameful, absolutely shameful. @W1zzard is this really the type of forum you want to operate?

Mine got deleted too, but whatever, no biggie.

Probably just a right leaning mod doing their best to keep it civil.

I like JBP's stuff, he doesn't deny that there is a gender gap, he just notes that the gap is not purely Gender based (which is true, it's not JUST that they are women but everything else that is brought with that, personality types, negotiating skills etc.). I honestly don't see him as far right, more center probably -- He would most likely support an impartial compensation system if i was to guess.

This the pay gap is very analogous to buying cars. There was a time when you were a woman if you went by yourself to purchase a car or even get it repaired you were at a high risk of getting absolutely fleeced (still are in some areas). Overall guys were better because they generally knew more about cars and were bigger a-holes when haggling. And because of that women would always take a guy relative/friend/significant other for backup.

Salaries are similar in that regard, that if you give women training/tools to deal with the situation optimally there wouldn't really be a gap. It's not that car dealerships were gender biased, it's that they took advantage where they could, and that fell out along gender lines as a side effect. That didn't make the gap any less real, however, and the new haggle-free apps and price lookup tools were excellent in addressing this.

 

[Easo]

If this truly is the same pay for the same position and experience, I am glad.
P.S.
But yeah, I knew what the comments would be like just by seeing the news title. The usual suspects crawled out of the woodwork, as expected.
It indeed is impossible to change the thinking in just a few decades after centuries of "traditions".

 

[Eric3988]

Does this include all 9000 genders or just "men and women", because if not REEEEEEE!!!

 

[diatribe]

Pay gap is real. ... And they feel bad how I have been working in the same position for 4 years is making less.

What you are describing is salary compression. It's not the same thing a gender pay equality. Market forces drive supply and demand of job positions. The good news for you is that you have the opportunity to make more money. You just have to leave your current employer.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Wow, the snowflaking is strong with this thread!

Folks, regardless of your feelings for Intel, any improvement towards wage equality is good progress. Now lets focus on Samsung, Microsoft, Apple, Google, AMD, NVidia, Sony, Qualcom and all of the other major tech companies who have yet to enact competent wage equality in any serious fashion.

 

[Tartaros]

A little tangential, but this thread reminds me what Steinbeck said about the working class in the US.