Metro Exodus Developer Discusses Boycott of the PC Platform for Sequels over Steam Review Bombing

[Countryside]

Bombarding negative reviews on a older Metro games just because the new game will be released on a other platform is just stupid and childish.

 

[XiGMAKiD]

...a PC version will always be at the heart of our plans

Even if this

...if all [PC] players boycott the game...

happened?

I say if people on the PC platform not gonna buy it then make it an exclusive for the console, draining your money for someone that's not gonna buy your product is not a good business plan

 

[Shambles1980]

a not good buisiness plan is to announcce a game will be on 1 platfrom allow people to preorder the game, and then tell those same people that it wont be on the platform they used to pre-order the game.

 

[FYFI13]

Best of luck with that. I will NOT use other stores. They might cancel a game or two for PC, but sooner or later they will crawl back and beg for our money. If they don't - others will, because that's serious amount of money.

In fact, i wouldn't mind buying game from their store if i could activate that CD key on Steam. Without using their launcher.

PS. I see some people oversimplifying whole situation to "2 clicks to install tiny launcher" or calling us lazy. There's A LOT more than that.

 

[c2DDragon]

That's why people love 'platforms' like GoG and Steam; they don't FORCE you to buy from them.

You know that in order to invite somebody as a friend in steam you actually DO HAVE to spend $5 minimum in their shop, right ?
Just saying.

 

[Shambles1980]

i have no isseues using something other than steam, provided thats the only thing i have to use. if epic or any one else can migrate all my steam games over there and let me use them without having to launch steam as well then il give it a go.
but as it stands my games are on steam and im not about to start a secondary libary else where even for free games (just ask twitch)

 

[c2DDragon]

i have no isseues using something other than steam, provided thats the only thing i have to use. if epic or any one else can migrate all my steam games over there and let me use them without having to launch steam as well then il give it a go.
but as it stands my games are on steam and im not about to start a secondary libary else where even for free games (just ask twitch)

The laziness of people who don't want to click a shortcut to launch a different store reseller platform is something I don't get.
Same people lose hours to get something for free, to find a good movie, find a good porn clip but losing 5 minutes to download a tiny client downloader and then double click a shortcut (which they can put in the task bar so it's 1 click) is a no go. What is the problem ?

And I will say nothing about the time lost to find THE game you will play when you launch your 200+ games library on Steam Yeah cause you want to play something : "Ah there is an update for "insert any game" maybe I will play this, oh wait no, ah friend wants to play this game." Imagine this time lost

Edit : I write english bad !

 

[Shambles1980]

lazy has nothing to do with it. i dont spend a week writing scripts for free to help people online because im lazy.

try again you may hit on the actuall reason eventually.

 

[c2DDragon]

lazy has nothing to do with it. i dont spend a week writing scripts for free to help people online because im lazy.

try again you may hit on the actuall reason eventually.

I speak in general and without any aggressivity I don't even know you but you describe an example of somebody who act like lazy. No offense, it's laziness still

 

[Shambles1980]

being lazy and just wanting to have my games in 1 location are not the same thing. i have amazon prime so i get free games on twitch every month. will i use the twitch launcher?? nope.. have i bought the same games on steam even though i have them for free on twitch?? yes.
i just dont use other launchers.. i bought diablo 3. probably played it twice, uninstalled it and the launcher.. gtav i didnt get that on steam, uninstalled that and the launcher..
i have no need for a new launcher. and forcing people to use one and calling them lazy because they dont want to use one is a insult and misses the point.

I am a consumer and i have a choice.
If you want to bend over and take whatever they tell you to do and pay them for the privalage then thats your choice.
but if they want my money then they can cater to me, if they dont want to thats fine im just 1 sale, and theres plenty of people who will bend over for them, but im not one.

 

[jigar2speed]

You threaten us, what did you expect in return, gifts ?

 

[moproblems99]

That's why people love 'platforms' like GoG and Steam; they don't FORCE you to buy from them. You can buy from anywhere.

Gee, that's strange. I wasn't aware you had to buy from Epic. I didn't get the email telling me that I was required to buy this game. I better check so I don't get in trouble.

a not good buisiness plan is to announcce a game will be on 1 platfrom allow people to preorder the game, and then tell those same people that it wont be on the platform they used to pre-order the game.

Also, those that preordered from Steam will allegedly still be able to use Steam, and even get updates on the game from Steam.

 

[Prima.Vera]

Toooo much drama over some mediocre games which I haven't got the desire to replay them not even once. I would have been a little worried if the devs from Diablo 3, Deus Ex, NFS, or other good franchises would want to jump the waggon, but this? Metro games are good, but not THAT good to deserve so much attention imo.

Was it so hard to release it in GOG, Steam, Epic, etc at the same time? No.

Noup. Unless you prefer that more than 60% of the proffits to go to toilet. I mean digital stores....

 

[yogurt_21]

Toooo much drama over some mediocre games which I haven't got the desire to replay them not even once. I would have been a little worried if the devs from Diablo 3, Deus Ex, NFS, or other good franchises would want to jump the waggon, but this? Metro games are good, but not THAT good to deserve so much attention imo.

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likely pc gamers trying to use this as an example to avoid those other companies from trying the same. Granted we already have the issue with origin, etc.

I get the old arguments of "we used to have a launcher per game" but seriously did we give each our credit card info? other personal information etc? No. We bought the game in store back then and installed the launcher offline in most cases.

It's not just a pain to have all these platforms, it's a security risk. The more you have the more attack vectors you're vulnerable from. Sure steam can get hacked, origin can get hacked, etc. But those are big names who you're going to pay attention to.

If you give all this info over to a platform you play 1 game you'll play until you finish (sometimes not even that) and then forget you have the threat is still just as real, but you may not even realize you're one of the victims until much later if at all.

It was the same way with online buying many years ago. You gave out info willy nilly to every jim bob store. Now you go through amazon, etc. People who have proper fraud mitigation and compensation.

the epic games store is 61 days old... compare that with the 6 years for Origin and 15 years for Steam.

Forgive me if I don't trust them just yet.

 

[kings]

So much drama about a f# game...

First world problems, I guess!

 

[lexluthermiester]

So much drama about a f# game... First world problems, I guess!

Yet another person marginalizing a problem some people care about. We get it, this is not the end of the world. Thanks for pointing that out. No one claiming it is though. However, within the context and scope of the GAMING world, it's an important issue to some people.

 

[Bytales]

It's not about the platform -- it's about exclusivity. The whole " you can ONLY buy it here" that EA, EPIC and others are trying to push.

Just because a Chinese company threw some money at these guys now the gamers who bought it from steam HAVE to download epic game launcher and HAVE to use the EPIC launcher which already got hacked twice.

Enjoy having that running on your computer.

Honestly if they want to publish their FPS for console only, good luck to them. I'm not buying this game until it comes to Steam.

For People like yourself, if i were the developer, i would publish the game on steam at 5 times the Price on epic store. see if you would buy it them !

 

[hat]

I'm struggling to come up with a viable solution to the issue, though. See, my problem with not wanting a bunch of launchers is because I don't want to have to keep track of a bunch of gaming accounts. I signed up for Steam over 10 years ago, and that was one... and Steam does a great job making things easier for me. I no longer have to swap discs (or even have physical discs anymore, which take up physical space and are prone to damage), track down updates, or even wait on installing a bunch of games if I ever reinstall everything (sure, I have a limited download speed, but it's not slow, and at least Steam rolls on from one to the next automatically without me sitting at the computer swapping discs).

Then I think back to how things were before Steam, or around the time I started using Steam. How many games did I have separate accounts I had to keep track of for each one? I remember logging in to Battlefield 2, 2142, multiple versions of GunZ, some offbrand MMO called Silkroad... I recall Bad Company 2 being tied to my Steam account though, so theoretically if all those games were on Steam, they would ideally work the same way - one account to rule them all. Even with a few different launchers, at least I wouldn't have a whole bunch of accounts for a bunch of different games. Every Battlefield, Call of Duty, etc type game with any kind of stats or ranking system would likely require an account to keep track of.

But then, at least the games I did log in to at that time didn't have any personal information, besides my email and possibly my birthday or something. They didn't have my debit card info or anything (though I don't believe Steam does either - I use PayPal whenever possible). Sure, the more accounts you sign up for that have your financial info represents a greater risk the more you have, but that's a risk you take just by even having a debit card, even if you never use it online.

I'm not so sure I can easily blame the publishers of the game for going with the Epic store, either... isn't it their job to make money? If Epic is offering a much lower cut into your sales than Steam, why wouldn't you go with Epic? It's unfortunate that Epic was already hacked twice, which is the only good reason I can think of to stay away from them. But, if you take proper precautions as a consumer, you can at least mitigate the possibility of such breaches affecting you. I mean, if Steam got hacked tomorrow, what are they going to get? My PayPal? They'll still need my PayPal password too, and even if they do get that, good luck getting past 2FA.

Having a ton of accounts here there and everywhere is a fact of life in the 21st century... even the 20th century.

 

[kings]

Yet another person marginalizing a problem some people care about. We get it, this is not the end of the world. Thanks for pointing that out. No one claiming it is though. However, within the context and scope of the GAMING world, it's an important issue to some people.

I understand that it is annoying to have multiple clients installed, I would also prefer to have one for everything (whether it's for games, TV streaming, etc), but that's not how the competition works!

People complain every day about the lack of competition in certain markets, but they do not care about Steam dominance and charge whatever they want. US customers even had a $10 reduction in the game compared to Steam, maybe in the future this will be extended to everyone with the inclusion of regional pricing (at least we hope so).

After all, competition is also this, lower prices. If Steam starts losing a lot of AAA titles, they're going to have to change something and maybe even begin to remember that they're a gaming company and resuscitate their IPs.

But in one thing I agree, if the game started to be sold on Steam, it should have stayed that way. I think Epic and Deep Silver could have handled things better!

 

[lexluthermiester]

Having a ton of accounts here there and everywhere is a fact of life in the 21st century... even the 20th century.

But it's not one we have to choose. I don't have accounts all over the place and never will. Just not a juggling act I'm willing to perform. Ever. And if we're being honest here, the only reason I have a Steam account is so that I can pay for games I already have. Most of the titles I've bought on Steam have never been downloaded. I've bought them to make up for having acquired them through "other" means, means which have all the crap DRM removed. I might consider doing this for Metro Exodus if they don't put it on GOG in a year.

but they do not care about Steam dominance and charge whatever they want.

That's nonsense. Stream's prices are very reasonable compared to Origin and others. The only etailer that does better on prices is GOG.

 

[Shambles1980]

i just see this debate we are having as 2 sets of people. 1 who see them selfs with consumer rights, and the others that say so what if we lose them its the 21st century let the buisnises do what they want and give us nothing of value in return for giving them money.

 

[Ferrum Master]

Stream's prices are very reasonable compared to Origin and others.

I haven't seen those cheap prices either.

Picked up Subnautica: Below Zero, both cost the same. So what's the fuss? Especially for us as consumers?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/848450/Subnautica_Below_Zero/

https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/subnautica-below-zero/home

 

[phanbuey]

For People like yourself, if i were the developer, i would publish the game on steam at 5 times the Price on epic store. see if you would buy it them !

Good! I would probably wait for a sale. For people like yourself, If I were the developer, I would make an exclusive for a specific type of videocard, you know, because X hardware company paid me, and make you buy that.

You know, since you love unrelated hoops to jump through for your stuff.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I haven't seen those cheap prices either.

Picked up Subnautica: Below Zero, both cost the same. So what's the fuss? Especially for us as consumers?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/848450/Subnautica_Below_Zero/

https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/subnautica-below-zero/home

Not a good example. Try a AAA title that's actually been released.

 

[hat]

i just see this debate we are having as 2 sets of people. 1 who see them selfs with consumer rights, and the others that say so what if we lose them its the 21st century let the buisnises do what they want and give us nothing of value in return for giving them money.

Rights? What rights? The developer, publisher, whoever gets to choose which place(s) carry, or do not carry, their product. If you decide to shop exclusively at Wal-Mart for some reason, what consumer rights could you possibly exercise when you hear Walgreens or somebody is carrying an item you want, but Wal-Mart doesn't have it?