Resident Evil 2 Remake: HDD can't load game zones at time and freezes

[eidairaman1]

Heres some insight, frame times for your gpu (measured in ms)

 

[Edwired]

Ok you have better spec than me
Mine is
E5450 @4.10ghz
Asus p5q premium
4x 2gb g-skill f2-8500cl5-2gbpk @ 1095mhz
Asus gtx 750 ti oc @ core 1280mhz mem 2800mhz
Crucial mx100 250gb main os and resident evil 2 install.

As i get no stuttering in dirt 4 but get stuttering in isle of man similar issue in resident evil 2 where part of the game lags behind in loading causing stutter im sure there be patches coming to fix the issues

 

[Letrix]

I will try to disconnect the SSD and install Windows 10 in the HDD and see if it's makes any difference.

 

[Edwired]

Dont forget some ssd need update in the firmware as that is one thing most people forget to do before an install of an os. That will fix any of the issues the ssd would be having

 

[Letrix]

Ok you have better spec than me
Mine is
E5450 @4.10ghz
Asus p5q premium
4x 2gb g-skill f2-8500cl5-2gbpk @ 1095mhz
Asus gtx 750 ti oc @ core 1280mhz mem 2800mhz
Crucial mx100 250gb main os and resident evil 2 install.

As i get no stuttering in dirt 4 but get stuttering in isle of man similar issue in resident evil 2 where part of the game lags behind in loading causing stutter im sure there be patches coming to fix the issues

I installed RE2 in the SSD and no stuttering issues but the HDD it's how it stopped working. I was listening music and when I was opening the game, the music "stuttered". This also happens in game loading screens. But anything related to zones not loading or freezings were gone.
In the HDD it's even worse. The music stop when the game freezes and system is unresponsive for some seconds.

Dont forget some ssd need update in the firmware as that is one thing most people forget to do before an install of an os. That will fix any of the issues the ssd would be having

I installed Crucial Storage Executive Tool but there wasn't any update.

I was trying to record the game in my HDD while monitoring with RivaTurner using Xbox DVR but after some minutes playing and in the first William Birkin encounter, the OS crashed (BSOD) and the video was corrupted.

 

[Edwired]

Right download hdsential to get an overall hard drives health this way you can see what going on there. Is the system any way overclocked? Ok you may want to get bluescreen viewer to determine which error code came up which could help pin down the issue

 

[Letrix]

Right download hdsential to get an overall hard drives health this way you can see what going on there. Is the system any way overclocked?

Yes, I ran OC Scanner in MSI Afterburner to see if was a GPU related issue but not. Still applied but makes any difference if turned off.
HDD and SSD are new (2 months old). I first installed Windows on SSD and then in the HDD I installed GTA V. It was stuttering and freezing. I asked in other forum to see if there is any solution but nothing helped. After some weeks by tweaking I managed to play it with zero stuttering. I have it uninstalled actually.

 

[rtwjunkie]

I installed RE2 in the SSD and no stuttering issues but the HDD it's how it stopped working. I was listening music and when I was opening the game, the music "stuttered". This also happens in game loading screens. But anything related to zones not loading or freezings were gone.
In the HDD it's even worse. The music stop when the game freezes and system is unresponsive for some seconds.


I installed Crucial Storage Executive Tool but there wasn't any update.

I was trying to record the game in my HDD while monitoring with RivaTurner using Xbox DVR but after some minutes playing and in the first William Birkin encounter, the OS crashed (BSOD) and the video was corrupted.

It sounds suspiciously like your HDD is on the way out.

 

[Edwired]

It sounds suspiciously like your HDD is on the way out.

If the hard drive was going out it would have clicking noises or health issue hd sential will tell you the status based on smart reading or if the hard drive was overheating it will fail unexpected over time. As im coming from experience in repairing computers most common fault is hard drive dying and head crash and plenty of recovery was successful only lost about 10 hard drives over 11 years of working on computers most people would thanks me for priceless data recovered

 

[Letrix]

If the hard drive was going out it would have clicking noises or health issue hd sential will tell you the status based on smart reading or if the hard drive was overheating it will fail unexpected over time. As im coming from experience in repairing computers most common fault is hard drive dying and head crash and plenty of recovery was successful only lost about 10 hard drives over 11 years of working on computers most people would thanks me for priceless data recovered

My old HDD had the same and worse issues and then died. In GTA V, when freezes, it made clicking noises.

PS: SMART doesn't show anything abnormal.

 

[Metroid]

With everything in Low and with Shadow Cache disabled, it feels that the game runs at lower framerate. Still freezing but only for a few seconds.

Shadow cache is important if you have a cpu with less than 4 cores.

 

[Edwired]

What year was the hdd was made on yours?

 

[Letrix]

What year was the hdd was made on yours?

At least 4 year olds.

 

[Edwired]

It should be ok to run games my question will point toward nvidia control panel that you may need to reset the settings by preview and set it to balanced and test again as i have one 160gb 7200rpm hard drive dated more than 8 years old as i used that for virtual memory no problem there. Try and download hwinfo64 to check the overall system temperature and voltage and put up a picture

 

[OneMoar]

Seagate platta loose all your data

once again we have somebody here having a hard time with the concept that there hardware is slow/failing them

slow hard drive is slow slow cpu is is slow slow ram is slow mediocre gpu is mediocre

what about this concept is hard for you to grasp litterally you are trying to play two titles known for being cpu/memory bound on a slow probly failing platter drive D A DOIIIII

get a proper ssd is your only real option

@Edwired
stop sending him on a wild goose chase is the seagate drive failing PROBABLY they where crap when they where new I have a stack of Dead ST1000's to prove that
also using a dead slow HDD for a pagefile come join us in 2019 that has not been a advisable thing todo since windows xp(and it was so only then because of IDE drive controllers and pathetically slow hard drives)

 

[Shambles1980]

mechanical hard disks can and often do get delay sectors as they degrade. these take a LOT longer to read/write than they should, and i used to use hdd regenerator to flag them move the data to a good sector and prevent windows using them.
But that was always a temporary step used that allowed me to get the data off the drive without the system locking up during transfer and forcing me to start again.
The drives would then be marked as bad with a marker pen. and would go in to a box to be destroyed.

 

[Edwired]

Seagate platta loose all your data

once again we have somebody here having a hard time with the concept that there hardware is slow/failing them

slow hard drive is slow slow cpu is is slow slow ram is slow mediocre gpu is mediocre

what about this concept is hard for you to grasp litterally you are trying to play two titles known for being cpu/memory bound on a slow probly failing platter drive D A DOIIIII

get a proper ssd is your only real option

@Edwired
stop sending him on a wild goose chase is the seagate drive failing PROBABLY they where crap when they where new I have a stack of Dead ST1000's to prove that
also using a dead slow HDD for a pagefile come join us in 2019 that has not been a advisable thing todo since windows xp(and it was so only then because of IDE drive controllers and pathetically slow hard drives)

Well hold onto your handbrake you tell me to stop when im giving him advises which are helpful in some way to pin down the issue that is causing problems on his system and yes virtual memory is still in use by the operating system, appications and games so please dont shout at members as it rude to do so

mechanical hard disks can and often do get delay sectors as they degrade. these take a LOT longer to read/write than they should, and i used to use hdd regenerator to flag them move the data to a good sector and prevent windows using them.
But that was always a temporary step used that allowed me to get the data off the drive without the system locking up during transfer and forcing me to start again.
The drives would then be marked as bad with a marker pen. and would go in to a box to be destroyed.

If that was the case if money was a probelm for some people they couldbt afford to buy another hard drive or the cost of repair. I had one customer who had a problem with a hard drive which had bad sectors at the begining of the platter he gave it to a repair shop they couldnt repair it as they said it was security locked to the laptop. So yeah i came to help him all i did was resize the operating system volume past the bad sectors and repair the operating system and every other problems that popped up. Since that time it still running today. As for hard drive regen software you mentioned that a lifeline to certain hard drive some will work like normal after the regen on the bad sectors been done but some hard drive just riddled beyond repaired and it get worse as bad sectors starts to spread all over the place that regards to data is considered lost. My method of using hard drive regen is do it 3 times then recheck for bad sectors while using 2x 120mm fans to keep the hard drive cool at all cost then do the 1:1 clone with clonezilla. That method works every time

 

[OneMoar]

Well hold onto your handbrake you tell me to stop when I am giving him advise which are helpful in some way to pin down the issue that is causing problems on his system and yes virtual memory is still in use by the operating system, applications and games so please font shout at members as it rude to do so


If that was the case if money was a problem for some people they could afford to buy another hard drive or the cost of repair. I had one customer who had a problem with a hard drive which had bad sectors at the beginning of the platter he gave it to a repair shop they couldn't repair it as they said it was security locked to the laptop. So yeah i came to help him all i did was resize the operating system volume past the bad sectors and repair the operating system and every other problems that popped up. Since that time it still running today. As for hard drive regen software you mentioned that a lifeline to certain hard drive some will work like normal after the regen on the bad sectors been done but some hard drive just riddled beyond repaired and it get worse as bad sectors starts to spread all over the place that regards to data is considered lost. My method of using hard drive regen is do it 3 times then recheck for bad sectors while using 2x 120mm fans to keep the hard drive cool at all cost then do the 1:1 clone with clonezilla. That method works every time

No on all of that No thats not the right way to handle it the right way to handle is to bin the drive and replace it

and no we do not put our page file on separate disks anymore thats what I was telling you not todo

hdd regen for the most part is smoke and mirrors you can not fix a hard drive with bad sectors or other physical problems I don't care what the software claims todo its not possible all this software does is make the drive mark the sectors as bad or overwrite them a view times and pray that the r/w head can make up the difference

here is what is going on here

1. GTA-V never been known to run all that well, especially online it stutters and hitches even on top end hardware

2. RE 2(2019) typical Crapcom PC-port with piss poor optimization and generally shit game engine

add the above to a slow mechanical hard drive and overall sub spec system and this is what you get

hes lucky either title runs at all

 

[Edwired]

Well at the end of the day everyone's computers have different spec and hardware just because the game company makes the game on one spec and hardware as it going to react totally differently to another spec and hardware it plain jane there as for stuttering is because it accessing the memory and hard drive for requested data that why it never a perfect product in any case. And for hard drive recovery or repair everyone have a different method to it as i have my own way of doing it and you have your own way of doing it just because one said it not the right way to do that it doesnt matter any way

Hey @Letrix any luck on fixing the stuttering on resident evil 2

 

[John Naylor]

@Edwired
stop sending him on a wild goose chase is the seagate drive failing PROBABLY they where crap when they where new I have a stack of Dead ST1000's to prove that
also using a dead slow HDD for a pagefile come join us in 2019 that has not been a advisable thing todo since windows xp(and it was so only then because of IDE drive controllers and pathetically slow hard drives)

There was one iteration of the Barracuda that had bad firmware. The rest of the series has evidenced no issues whatsoever. If it's anything other than a 7200.14 it's probably at or approaching end of life however. The 7200.12 came out 10 years ago.... the 7200.14 around 2013

Our test box has:

(2) Samsung Pro 250 GB SSDs
(2) Seagate 2 TB SSHDs
(1) Seagate 7200.12 HD (almost 10 years old)

Each device is bootable via Boot Options in the BIOS. None of the issues of the type described in booting windows, running apps or playing games... most significant difference is in Windows Boot Time:

SSD = 15.6 seconds
SSHD = 16.5
HD = 21.2

We still have afew of 7200.14's and (1) 7200.12s that we rotate for weekly backups stored off site.

We haven't bought a HD going on 8 years so don't have anything newer to test. Id say 9 outta 10 builds we do gets an SSD + SSHD ... if budget doesn't allow for that (getting rarer with prices dropping), the OS is placed on it's own partition of the SSHD and the SSD added when user has the cash. Most times, the original OS install is kept as an spare / emergency boot in case of bad windows update, bad patch, malware, hardware failure, user error.

 

[Edwired]

Yea firmware updates should be done first time before using the harddrive if there was any availble by the manufactor website which sometime dont pop up at all. Reason i ask about the hwinfo64 to check for hard drive tempurature if pc case had plenty of airflow unless the case is small which would be choking poor airflow. I use info64 to monitor everything from voltages to temperatures most of the time hard drive temps for ssd is 30c, 3x hhd 22c to 27c during heavy gaming. If any of the hard drives start to get too hot like beyond 45c it either more air into the case or relocate the hard drive to a cooler place in the case or just replace it entirely

 

[newtekie1]

Everyone wants to point to the drive being bad, but no one want to address the issue that System is using the drive twice as hard as the actual game...

I say we try fixing that problem before we start calling the drive faulty.

And at the same time, not just assume the drive is faulty because it is running slow. Run HD Tune Pro on it, using the free trial, and run a scan to check for bad or slow sectors.

 

[Shambles1980]

Everyone wants to point to the drive being bad, but no one want to address the issue that System is using the drive twice as hard as the actual game...

I say we try fixing that problem before we start calling the drive faulty.

And at the same time, not just assume the drive is faulty because it is running slow. Run HD Tune Pro on it, using the free trial, and run a scan to check for bad or slow sectors.

its part and parcel of a delay sector.. There is info on that sector and it takes forever to read it so it continues to try and read it and so the rest of the drive cannot be accessed in a reasonable amount of time.
hdd regenerator will show which sectors are delay sectors with just a standard scan (no repair) "i used to buy pata drives that had been recovered form old sky boxes by the dozen, i would run them all through hdd regen using the scan only option. and if any had delay sectors they would be sent back for replacment or a refund.."
A delay sector wont show up as a bad sector most of the time because data is eventually read/written to it.
I think the symptoms match up pretty well to delay sectors.

 

[newtekie1]

its part and parcel of a delay sector.. There is info on that sector and it takes forever to read it so it continues to try and read it and so the rest of the drive cannot be accessed in a reasonable amount of time.
hdd regenerator will show which sectors are delay sectors with just a standard scan (no repair) "i used to buy pata drives that had been recovered form old sky boxes by the dozen, i would run them all through hdd regen using the scan only option. and if any had delay sectors they would be sent back for replacment or a refund.."
A delay sector wont show up as a bad sector most of the time because data is eventually read/written to it.
I think the symptoms match up pretty well to delay sectors.

A delayed sector won't be causing System to be using twice the data transfer rate on the drive than the actual game.

However, System hammering the drive will choke out any other program trying to load data from the drive.

Also, the delay sector issue is why I suggested HD Tune Pro, it will detect those with a scan.

 

[Letrix]

A delayed sector won't be causing System to be using twice the data transfer rate on the drive than the actual game.

However, System hammering the drive will choke out any other program trying to load data from the drive.

Also, the delay sector issue is why I suggested HD Tune Pro, it will detect those with a scan.

I ran an Error Scan in HD Time Pro an no errors.
I will try later with HDD Regenerator.