No AMD Radeon "Navi" Before October: Report

[geon2k2]

With Navi still being GCN it is probably wont be much of a challenger to current nvidia anyway.

Not sure this is relevant, even with the same architecture, improvement can be very big, and with all consoles being GCN, I think it might be a good idea to keep the same.

On a different note, this is the same like saying that all intel cpu suck as they still use 40 years old x86 architecture, while we all know there have been multiple improvements to the original architecture.
The same is true for GCN, there have been multiple improvements over the years.

 

[Lorec]

 

[Midland Dog]

Got any legitimate links?

Your comment is nothing but speculation at this point.
Are you an engineer?

I don't think so.

Typical of someone with a greeneye.

somewhere on videocardz, cbf looking just knocked off work, beer time

 

[John Naylor]

It seems no coincidence that nVidia GFX cards suffered right after they started building consoles and then same thing happened to AMD when they "won" that market. Once Nvidia was out of it, soon after generation to generation improvements were impressive.

 

[Super XP]

Rumours & Speculation claim its delayed. Hopefully not, but AMD get it right this time around. We need very competitive GPUs and now with the DLSS flop, its now or never.

 

[Adam Krazispeed]

With Navi still being GCN it is probably wont be much of a challenger to current nvidia anyway.

Navi is NOT GOING TO BE GCN...

NAVI IS A BRAND NEW GPU ARCHITECTURE FROM THE GROUND UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

not a fan boy either, im using a evga gtx 1080 hybrid gaming 8gb card right now, but im sick of nvidias gpus... high cost, and rtx is not even a decent upgrade for me, and the rtx 2080 is only maybe a 30-40% performance increase from my gtx 1080..

and price of 700-900 bucks... NO THANKS NVIDIA.. ILL WAIT AND SEE WHAT AMD DOES WITH NAVI IN OCTOBER

 

[cucker tarlson]

Navi is NOT GOING TO BE GCN...

NAVI IS A BRAND NEW GPU ARCHITECTURE FROM THE GROUND UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

not a fan boy either, im using a evga gtx 1080 hybrid gaming 8gb card right now, but im sick of nvidias gpus... high cost, and rtx is not even a decent upgrade for me, and the rtx 2080 is only maybe a 30-40% performance increase from my gtx 1080..

and price of 700-900 bucks... NO THANKS NVIDIA.. ILL WAIT AND SEE WHAT AMD DOES WITH NAVI IN OCTOBER

I haven't seen any conformation of this,what sources are you going by ?

 

[bug]

I haven't seen any conformation of this,what sources are you going by ?

Initially, Navi appeared on AMD's slides as a next-gen architecture. They've been silent since, so I'm really not sure what Navi is anymore.

Edit: This is what the roadmap looks like currently: https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-update-7nm-vega-2018-navi-2019/
Next-gen is only what comes after Navi, so Navi is still the architecture that doesn't scale to high-end (And yes, I know it's wtftech, but that slide appears on other sites as well)

 

[xkm1948]

Vega was hyped to be completely new uArc as well, NCU instrad of GCN. We all know how that went.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Vega was hyped to be completely new uArc as well, NCU instrad of GCN. We all know how that went.

this is exactly the scenario I think it might go (revised and redesigned gcn),though Navi is gonna be a purely gaming architecture,not compute oriented like Vega.

 

[efikkan]

Initially, Navi appeared on AMD's slides as a next-gen architecture. They've been silent since, so I'm really not sure what Navi is anymore.

Do you remember when?
The slides I can find from back to 2016 only states "next gen memory" for Navi.

 

[bug]

Do you remember when?
The slides I can find from back to 2016 only states "next gen memory" for Navi.

I remember it was the first announcements mentioning Vega. Either the slides have been pulled or my memory is playing tricks on me, but I couldn't find those slides at a quick search.

Edit: Even so, it's pretty clear there's no "next gen memory" to be unveiled this year, so I'm still not sure what Navi is supposed to be.

 

[efikkan]

Navi was supposed to arrive in 2018. Next Gen Memory was probably GDDR6.

 

[Super XP]

I haven't seen any conformation of this,what sources are you going by ?

HERE:

I have also been told that Navi will be a new microarchitecture (in other words the first AMD Radeon uArch to not be based on GCN).

NAVI New GPU Design

Unless I am not reading this right, its going to be a version of Navi, maybe the high end or maybe the midrange that will be a brand new GPU. But recently rumours claim Navi is delayed. So who knows. But this is the source nevertheless. Mark my Words, a new GPU Design by AMD will not be GCN Based. PERIOD.

 

[xkm1948]

HERE:
NAVI New GPU Design

Unless I am not reading this right, its going to be a version of Navi, maybe the high end or maybe the midrange that will be a brand new GPU. But recently rumours claim Navi is delayed. So who knows. But this is the source nevertheless. Mark my Words, a new GPU Design by AMD will not be GCN Based. PERIOD.

Alrighy. Screen shot taken. I am coming back to ya after Navi launch.

 

[Super XP]

Alrighy. Screen shot taken. I am coming back to ya after Navi launch.

I accept the Challenge

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Bare in mind that GCN is a lot like x86. It's an extensible framework with unified instructions that have been expanded over time. In Vega, they hugely changed the compute units but are still calling it GCN. In Raven Ridge, they replaced UVD and VCE with Video Core Next that does both functions.

Navi is a new architecture (just like Vega was) but that doesn't necessarily mean it significantly deviates from GCN. That's a good thing because people still rocking 7970s will still get continued support.

 

[Super XP]

I agree it's a good thing to a certain extent, IF they can remain more than competitive vs. Nvidia high end GPUs.
AMD needs a ZEN type success with its GPU business.

If GCN can do this I'm all for it. So far they've been trying for years now. No success.

 

[medi01]

From NASDAQ I posted in #21 on this thread:

2017 Annual Financial Reports

Intel 71 billion dollars revenue and 21 billion dollars profit
Nvidia 9.7 billion dollars revenue and 3 billion dollars profit
AMD 5.3 billion dollars revenue and 43 million dollars profit (this includes both CPU and GPU businesses)

Yep, smaller, but no way small. Thank you. And this year:

2018
AMD - $6.48 bn revenue
nVidia - $9.71 bn revenue

 

[Mighty-Lu-Bu]

With Navi still being GCN it is probably wont be much of a challenger to current nvidia anyway.

I don't care if Navi isn't a challenger to the RTX 2080ti, I just want a solid card that offers better performance than Vega 64, with less TDP. I don't think that that is a lot to ask...

 

[bug]

I don't care if Navi isn't a challenger to the RTX 2080ti, I just want a solid card that offers better performance than Vega 64, with less TDP. I don't think that that is a lot to ask...

Well, I wouldn't mind 2080 Ti's level of performance. But certainly not the price

 

[Super XP]

This report about an October launch was dispelled recently.
NAVI LAUNCH Coming SOON

It was also reported that Ryzen CPUs are being placed on sale to clear inventory for ZEN2. And we might end up seeing a launch sometime around May 2019. Availability June 2019.
AMD Slashes Ryzen Prices for ZEN2 room.

And lastly, how accurate is this? Found it on Wccftech by a poster lol,
IF there is any truth to this, Oh My. Look at this with a Grain of Salt, couldn't find anything on Tom's Hardware, just there Forums with random posters.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

More like a lethal dose of salt.

The naming scheme doesn't make any sense for the alleged performance. On top of that, what 20 games does RTX 2080 Ti get an average of 294.8 fps? I bet Quake III is in there with 1000+ fps.

 

[Super XP]

More like a lethal dose of salt.

The naming scheme doesn't make any sense for the alleged performance. On top of that, what 20 games does RTX 2080 Ti get an average of 294.8 fps? I bet Quake III is in there with 1000+ fps.

Triple AAA titles I assume.
It's a grain of salt nevertheless.

The naming looks like it's from here.
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-navi-gpus-spotted-in-macos-mohave-update

 

[R0H1T]

So why would the top(?) Navi be a direct competitor of VII, unless they wanna sell the rest of the inventory in a virtual write-off OR Navi is obscenely priced