NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Released: TU117, 896 Cores, 4 GB GDDR5, $150

[THANATOS]

No but it would be quite odd to having more than that when full tu116 has 3*512cc GPCs thus 1536ccs.

GPC is not limited to 512cc(4xTPC, 8xSM) per GPC, It can have a different amount of TPC per GPC.
TU106(RTX2070) has only 3GPC but 768cc per 1GPC. On the other hand for 1152cc you would need to have 384cc(3xTPC, 6xSM) per GPC which is unlikely.
So I no longer believe 1650TI will have more than 1024cc.

 

[jabbadap]

I doubt the GPU supports any wider than 128-bit. I'm also surprised if it supports GDDR6.

Well gtx1660 is paired with gddr5 memory so Turing's IMC should be able to do that. Price would be more deciding factor for not using it.

GPC is not limited to 512cc(4xTPC, 8xSM) per GPC, It can have a different amount of TPC per GPC.
TU106(RTX2070) has only 3GPC but 768cc per 1GPC. On the other hand for 1152cc you would need to have 384cc(3xTPC, 6xSM) per GPC which is unlikely.
So I no longer believe 1650TI will have more than 1024cc.

yeah I agree it's possible having that many ccs. But there's just too many bits to speak against it.

 

[Ruru]

Well gtx1660 is paired with gddr5 memory so Turing's IMC should be able to do that. Price would be more deciding factor for not using it.

Just thinking that have they implemented the GDDR6 support to TU117.. Just like they had to use GP104 instead of GP106 in GTX 1060 GDDR5X version.

 

[Kapone33]

I guess there will always be that special someone telling people they should severely handicap performance on an AMD card to make it perform like its competitor, alongside the argument that Nvidia has it easy and AMD is fighting a difficult battle. News flash: people are smarter than this. Another one: perf/watt numbers don't lie and AMD still loses at those in a big way, even despite radical undervolting and other measures.

If you're really invested in this, point the finger at AMD for getting Polaris to the sorry state it's in today and zero development to fix it. Its no surprise that the company that dóes actually make things more efficient every round is getting sales. Yes, even just because its got a more sexy product stack.

The number 1 selling GPU on Amazon.com is the RX 580 8GB (Polaris) and even though Nvidia does take up positions 2 to 9. it goes with the data that has been floating around the web that AMD is dominating the DIY market. There is so much hype around Navi it's not even funny. All of the Youtubers are extolling the virtues of Ryzen and Threadripper and that I am sure has a definite impact on sales. AMD does have an uphill battle...at the retail level. AMD'sown fault though is their lack of mainstream marketing.

 

[GoldenX]

Too expensive, not a big upgrade over a 1050ti.

 

[AusWolf]

This 896/56/32 shader/TMU/ROP design is highly improbable to be a complete Turing chip. I suspect nvidia is hiding a 1650 Ti with a fully unlocked 1024/64/32 configuration somewhere.

My dear god. Laptop gtx 1650 is full tu117.

Spoiler: gtx 1650 Mobile specs

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Hah! I didn't notice this earlier. And this!

 

[Vya Domus]

My dear god. Laptop gtx 1650 is full tu117.

Spoiler: gtx 1650 Mobile specs

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Larger processors clocked lower are more power efficient than smaller processor clocked higher (of the same make), it would make sense that sometimes they'd do this.

 

[Sandbo]

Not much to add, only to say that comparing to 1660 the difference is huge. I was expecting something around the level of 580

 

[Vayra86]

The number 1 selling GPU on Amazon.com is the RX 580 8GB (Polaris) and even though Nvidia does take up positions 2 to 9. it goes with the data that has been floating around the web that AMD is dominating the DIY market. There is so much hype around Navi it's not even funny. All of the Youtubers are extolling the virtues of Ryzen and Threadripper and that I am sure has a definite impact on sales. AMD does have an uphill battle...at the retail level. AMD'sown fault though is their lack of mainstream marketing.

You need more than one GPU for a product stack, unfortunately. And Navi hype... I guess it depends what part of the internet you frequent... I dont see it. I think most of that is wishful thinking for a lack of better alternatives.

 

[efikkan]

Not embarrassing, Nvidia are just releasing this knowing that people will buy it, No press drivers??? would they have done this with RTX 2080ti on launch?

They will only release a new driver version if there are new tweaks or fixes needed.

 

[jabbadap]

Mobile gtx1650 might be quite good actually, at least 3dmarks shows close to gtx1060 MaxQ performance. GTX1660ti laptop version is too quite strong gpu almost on par with RTX 2060.

Then there's finally some serious Ryzen+nvidia dgpu laptops rolling out...
https://edgeup.asus.com/2019/geforce-and-ryzen-together-at-last-in-tuf-gaming-fx505-fx705-laptops/
https://rog.asus.com/articles/rog-g...im-gaming-introducing-the-new-rog-zephyrus-g/

 

[Kapone33]

You need more than one GPU for a product stack, unfortunately. And Navi hype... I guess it depends what part of the internet you frequ ent... I dont see it. I think most of that is wishful thinking for a lack of better alternatives.[/QUOT

I go on a lot of sites including Anandtech, Toms Hardware and Youtube, the comments are where the hype about Navi is on just about every GPU review that has been released in the last year. Look at the amount of traffic that happened when the rumour of Ryzen 2 and NAVI launching and being announced in June took place. As far as a better alternative I suggest you look at the Youtubers doing comparisons between the R9 280,380 and the 960 and 970. I will agree that most Nvidia launches are faster than their AMD alternatives but it has been proven that AMD GPUs age very well indeed. The latest driver from AMD has my Vega 64 running as high as 1750 MHZ on the GPU clock.

 

[Vayra86]

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Please... this horse is beaten, dead and buried, and the numbers don't lie. You can find every alternate reality online. Fact remains AMD GPUs have been stagnant and the market share is horribly low, and neither Vega nor R7 nor Polaris is really turning that around in any meaningful way. That matters, the ramblings of some internet community does not.

Seeing is believing. If AMD pulls another 'Zen' with Navi (which they will not) then we can start getting our hopes up. Until then, just stahp...