Noctua NH-D15 and my Ryzen 7 1700X.

[AltCapwn]

Wow, but mobo still works right?

Yep, its a p8Z77-v pro, still functionning very well since day one! You can put a cable tie to hold it if you don't feel confortable with the weight.

 

[John Naylor]

Prime95 is out dated. I would much rather use Asus Realbench as it simulates regular usage

You will also maintain stability at higher OCs since voltage rather then temps will be the limiting factor. I never saw the logic of testing with synthetics. Kinda like testing out a new SUV because you just bought a Ski-Doo and need to take it from seal level to your house at elevation 80. You don't test it to see if it can tow a 12,000 pond load up and over the rocky mountains. The voltage boost you get when AVX instructions are present w/ P95 past ver 26.6 (IIRC) is scary and even if it doesn't hurt anything, will unnecessarily limit your OCs due to temps that you will never otherwise see under any imaginable circumstance. Did you build ya PC to play games and run programs ... or to get ya name on web site leaderboards ?

Besides ..... last time I used p95, after being 24 hour stable with temps in the high 80s, I ran RoG Bench and it crashed within 45 minutes ... RB presents a multitasking load with different kind of loads on different cores. Not that same identical loading that synthetics do. To get RB stable I had to boost the voltage from 1.365 to 1.3875 ... but temps at the higher are 8 - 9C lower on average.

Why unreal ? Cause running it has no real value; it dos not represent any type of load that your PC will experience in it's lifetime ... ever. No application or combination of applications generate a similar loading.

 

[freeagent]

That may be true, but when your pc is unstable it is essentially a random number generator instead of being a calculator. Being random, you don't know when that bad number will be generated. Could be when you open that app, are in that game, running that bench, encoding that file, etc. On that note, because a computer is a pretty strong calculator, I like Linpack Extreme. Lately, its the only app that I trust. Ill sometimes run some real bench after, and usually see at least 20c lower load temps. And it passes, unless my gpu is wound up a little too far from running a bench.. I built my pc to run everything reliably. If I miss out on a couple hundred MHz, its not a huge loss. Probably wouldn't even notice it anyways. Only in the benchmarks.. Just my advice, run linpack extreme until you cant deal with the heat anymore, then use realbench and others when your ready to guesstimate. That way you can build on a solid foundation. Or don't.. and keep guessing.

 

[Final_Fighter]

right out of the prime95 stress test read me,"This program is a good stress test for the CPU, memory, L1 and L2 caches,CPU cooling, and case cooling. The torture test runs continuously, comparing your computer's results to results that are known to be correct." if your pc cant pass prime than it probably means something is wrong. prime should not be used solely by itself to determine stability but it is in no way outdated.

 

[freeagent]

I gave up on prime years ago. I've seen it fail at all different intervals, even after 24 hours. Or go to use an app and it crashes right away when its 20 hours prime stable lol. Or have it bluescreen when you close the app after its been running for 12 hours haha. That app is misery.

 

[John Naylor]

That may be true, but when your pc is unstable it is essentially a random number generator instead of being a calculator. Being random, you don't know when that bad number will be generated. Could be when you open that app, are in that game, running that bench, encoding that file, etc. On that note, because a computer is a pretty strong calculator, I like Linpack Extreme. Lately, its the only app that I trust. Ill sometimes run some real bench after, and usually see at least 20c lower load temps. And it passes, unless my gpu is wound up a little too far from running a bench.. I built my pc to run everything reliably. If I miss out on a couple hundred MHz, its not a huge loss. Probably wouldn't even notice it anyways. Only in the benchmarks.. Just my advice, run linpack extreme until you cant deal with the heat anymore, then use realbench and others when your ready to guesstimate. That way you can build on a solid foundation. Or don't.. and keep guessing.

But that's the point ,,,, Run reliable under real world loads or run reliably under imaginary loadings that it will never see ? Think of a tennis ball machine firing balls at you once every 2 seconds from a stationary point and you have to swat them away .... you could basically just stand there and hold the racket in a fixed position and call the wife and tell her you'll bring home milk and bread. Now put 4 tennis ball machines out there tossing one every 8 seconds but you don't know where it's going to come from. The 1st test will leave ya with a lot less bruises.

The other thing with Linpack or P95 is that i get failures after 3 hours, 45 minutes, 17 hours and Im not close to a stable OC voltage .... with RB, I run the last 2 minute multitasking benchmark and it gets dialed in after 2 minute time investment. In addition, temperature is avariable ... as you system components heat up, it changes how electrons flow. But if I invest 24 hours in getting a stable P95 OC and it fails in 52 miunutes on RB, I can only conclude that a) it's not all it's cracked up to be and b) it requires too much of my T & E

I wouldn't say it's outdated tho. I still use it to thermally cycle TIM. Who want's to deal with AS5's 7 weeks of curing ? Even other manufacturers who claim that they need no curing, testing shows that temps do improve with thermal cycling ... Thread here on the forum to that effect regarding Thermal Grizzly. With a desk fan w/switch and low fan / pump rpms ... ya can rapidly cycle the temps up to 85C w/ P95 and then shut down turn on the desk fan and get 10-12 cycles done quickly.

 

[trickson]

I installed the fans in the reverse way since it's upside down and back wards it is actually on "Right" . Fans are installed correctly and it is working as factory setup.
It's just upside down and backwards.
I am going to run some OCCT line pack see how hot it gets under that load.

Running OCCT, Playing a video and also using the system to post this picture of the temps.
So now what do you think?
I am JUST BLOWN AWAY! TBH!

 

[Vario]

Glad you are happy with the performance! I hope all is well with you. The system looks great!

 

[Vayra86]

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I installed the fans in the reverse way since it's upside down and back wards it is actually on "Right" . Fans are installed correctly and it is working as factory setup.
It's just upside down and backwards.
I am going to run some OCCT line pack see how hot it gets under that load.

Running OCCT, Playing a video and also using the system to post this picture of the temps.
So now what do you think?
I am JUST BLOWN AWAY! TBH!

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Its running stock, right? Seeing 3.8 Ghz. Not so very sure what is so special here? What are you surprised about?

But that's the point ,,,, Run reliable under real world loads or run reliably under imaginary loadings that it will never see ? Think of a tennis ball machine firing balls at you once every 2 seconds from a stationary point and you have to swat them away .... you could basically just stand there and hold the racket in a fixed position and call the wife and tell her you'll bring home milk and bread. Now put 4 tennis ball machines out there tossing one every 8 seconds but you don't know where it's going to come from. The 1st test will leave ya with a lot less bruises.

The other thing with Linpack or P95 is that i get failures after 3 hours, 45 minutes, 17 hours and Im not close to a stable OC voltage .... with RB, I run the last 2 minute multitasking benchmark and it gets dialed in after 2 minute time investment. In addition, temperature is avariable ... as you system components heat up, it changes how electrons flow. But if I invest 24 hours in getting a stable P95 OC and it fails in 52 miunutes on RB, I can only conclude that a) it's not all it's cracked up to be and b) it requires too much of my T & E

I wouldn't say it's outdated tho. I still use it to thermally cycle TIM. Who want's to deal with AS5's 7 weeks of curing ? Even other manufacturers who claim that they need no curing, testing shows that temps do improve with thermal cycling ... Thread here on the forum to that effect regarding Thermal Grizzly. With a desk fan w/switch and low fan / pump rpms ... ya can rapidly cycle the temps up to 85C w/ P95 and then shut down turn on the desk fan and get 10-12 cycles done quickly.

You say that but Ive already come across multiple topics of people obverclocking with that approach only to find out there are hot loads anyway and then 'poof" BSOD or hard lock.

There is no 'simple' OC like that. It just means you havent fed it the proper load yet but you will. All you really get to enjoy is a high degree of uncertainty and an issue when troubleshooting problems, because there is also an OC to narrow down from.

That is why synthetics are valuable. If you cannot pass OCCT linpack on all threads, its just not stable.

 

[trickson]

OMG this thing is SICK!!! Full hour run and also still surfing net and watching video.
This is the end results so far! And can I just say OYG this is AMAZING.

What do you think?

 

[Deleted member 24505]

The max on mine gaming is 56 with a single fan, which i am happy with. I don't run stress tests any more, gaming is the most i stress mine out anyway.

Also I put mine the right way up, couldn't handle the name upside down.

 

[WhiteNoise]

Good lord those coolers are huge.

 

[robot zombie]

OMG this thing is SICK!!! Full hour run and also still surfing net and watching video.
This is the end results so far! And can I just say OYG this is AMAZING.

What do you think?

Looks great, man. I'd probably be pretty happy with that. You gotta try the 'X' features though! They're seriously awesome. Jump on that PBO, yo! It's the shit.

Build's lookin pretty good, too. I see some other nice things in there. Solid.

Just wanna say... following this odyssey from the beginning, it is personally satisfying for me to see it all come together, because I have been there. At the start of last year, I made my reentry to the hobby after many years away. I was so excited to get started. And then everything that could possibly go wrong, did. Some of it was my own mistakes. A lot of it was just god awful luck. Months and months of absolutely inexplicable setbacks. But the point is, I know exactly how that feels. It starts to eat away at you after a while... you're in all of this time and money... and yet it feels like you have nothing to show for it. Takes a bite out of your confidence. It fucking sucks, man. Every little thing gets drawn under the microscope, greatly amplifying the already overwhelming anger and dissatisfaction. By the end of it, I had to replace pretty much everything but the case. Of course, I've made upgrades since then, but it's never a good day when the thought "I guess I'm buying a new motherboard now..." makes perfect sense.

But in the end, I was able to regain my composure and make it happen. My mindset shifted from 'enough' to 'the best'. I made lemonade out of it, replacing things that caused problems with better things. Cost me some good money, but it does soften the blows. They're not replacements, but instead 'impromptu upgrades' hehe. I no longer cared what I had to put in, so long as I wound up with a build that killed it at everything I needed it to do. And you know what? Because of everything that happened to get me to that point, I wound up with a way better build than I originally planned on having, or even considered within reach at the outset. And in a weird way, this build means so much more to me *because* of what I had to go through. If everything went perfect and I got what I originally envisioned, I wouldn't be anywhere near as happy with it. I've done dozens of builds since then with no hitches and nothing but happy new owners. Truthfully, many of them are considerably nicer than mine is or will ever be. But this one is still my favorite and I continue to enjoy just using it and making improvements to it. Honestly it has completely changed the way I do the things that I do and how I use my PC time. That wouldn't have happened if everything worked the first time around.

So I'm glad you managed to come out on top in the end. That is a triumph worth celebrating. I really respect the fact that as mad as you got, you still paid attention to the advice given and made the calls you needed to make in order to turn it around on your own. Truly, man. A lot of people would've just said "FUCK IT. I'm out." Things always work out better when a person owns their misfortunes, though.

Hope you're finding the same joy and vindication that I found through my trials, as I'm sure others here have, too. Enjoy that setup. You've definitely earned it after that whole ordeal!

 

[BarbaricSoul]

truth be known it is only thanks to the help I got here at TPU.
I could not be happier, at all. You eggheads really hit it out of the park this time!

Your welcome

time for custom water cooling? Or a Corsair H115i or Swiftech H360 AIO unit? If you want to stay on air, get the best (Cryorg R1 Ultimate or Noctua NH D15)

Another alternative, and one to consider if your going to replace another heat sink is the Deep Cool Assassin heat sink. Yeah, I know, the name is kinda weird, but it's a awesome performing heat sink that is very similar in appearance to the D15, but about $25 less expensive. Here's how it performs with my 3930k running 100% full load at 4.5GHz @ 1.4 volts.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vCL7YJ/deepcool-cpu-cooler-assassinii

 

[Vario]

Good lord those coolers are huge.

Here are my monster heatsinks. Go big or go home

In GTA V after a few hours, sits at about peak 55*C CPU and 45*C GPU.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Here are my monster heatsinks. Go big or go home

In GTA V after a few hours, sits at about peak 55*C CPU and 45*C GPU.

Whats the GPU sink?

 

[HTC]

Whats the GPU sink?

Dunno, but ... not big enough ...

Perhaps something like this?

 

[Vario]

Whats the GPU sink?

Arctic Mono Plus with a Yate Loon 140mm D14BH12 fan zip tied on.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Arctic Mono Plus with a Yate Loon 140mm D14BH12 fan zip tied on.

Nice, bet it cools well