trying the near impossible... most powerful GOD BOX in a miniITX case

venturi · Apr 4, 2019

as an example of the array speed on this build. Here is the end report of a full backup showing the sustained write speed.

theonek · Apr 4, 2019

How did you achieve this transfer with sata drives only? I saw they are in raid but the sata controllers limit is around 1500MB....

venturi · Apr 4, 2019

theonek said:
How did you achieve this transfer with sata drives only? I saw they are in raid but the sata controllers limit is around 1500MB....

I don't know anything about a sata controller limit other than on the board the unit is 32gbs hardwired. So 25gbs is within spec. if it its just reading then it gets up past the 31.5gbs on occasion. This is consistent vs burst; this is on three plus minutes of constant write activity.

maybe the 1500 is an old sata controller limit. Lastly I did back up the whole C drive in 3 minutes, 20 -30 sec was the post backup verification. So, in raw numbers alone the transfer had to actually occur / the rate seems accurate.

on the read and write speeds: I was just sharing the speed of the array stack. Reads alone achieve 30gbs, then again it is an all ssd array using all samsung pro ssds

theonek · Apr 4, 2019

well these 32gbs are wired to M2 slot on the mobo for an M2 NVME ssd, sata's are different thing that's why I wonder how you exceed it's limit, there is something more here, maybe it's a server board and has more lanes for it's build-in intel sata controller. Don't think you are using add-on raid card on any slots...

Deleted member 24505 · Apr 4, 2019

Yikes that is all.

venturi · Apr 4, 2019

theonek said:
well these 32gbs are wired to M2 slot on the mobo for an M2 NVME ssd, sata's are different thing that's why I wonder how you exceed it's limit, there is something more here, maybe it's a server board and has more lanes for it's build-in intel sata controller. Don't think you are using add-on raid card on any slots...

I'm not using any add on cards. Plus, with 4 Titan Vs on the board, there really aren't any slots available

venturi · Apr 19, 2019

Small update
I moved to LRDIMM 2933mhz
So the unit has
768GB of ram (Ecc)

Each LRDIMM is 64GB

Mussels · Apr 19, 2019

Just tell us what we need to do, to get you as a sugar daddy

This build is pure madness

lexluthermiester · Apr 19, 2019

Mussels said:
This build is pure madness

Still waiting to hear what the point of it is.

64K · Apr 19, 2019

lexluthermiester said:
Still waiting to hear what the point of it is.

He said that it was for some gaming but also deep learning, clinical decision support, isotopes, medical imaging. I guess some of those uses require expensive hardware though it's not something I'm familiar with.

lexluthermiester · Apr 19, 2019

64K said:
He said that it was for some gaming but also deep learning, clinical decision support, isotopes, medical imaging. I guess some of those uses require expensive hardware though it's not something I'm familiar with.

I understood that but what is being used is just insane overkill for the tasks being asked of it. Not criticizing of course, just curious whether this rig will be put to practical use or if it's being built for giggles.

jaggerwild · Apr 19, 2019

I love how you put it on the floor, then again could eat of those floors....

venturi · Apr 19, 2019

lexluthermiester said:
Still waiting to hear what the point of it is.

Well, on a neural network data training (ML) session I exceeded the 384GB I had so I lifted the ceiling. I now actually can use most of those resources.

NdMk2o1o · Apr 19, 2019

Just for shits and giggles I'm adding your components to my basket on Amazon and even though I haven't added any drives, had to settle for 3x titans and 192GB RAM it's already close to 30k, I expect with the increased RAM, 10x SSD's, Titan V CEO edition etc etc it would be well over £50k :respect:

words cant explain how crazy this teeny weeny "computer" is, I guess kudos to you if you can afford something like this, it's friggin insane

TheMadDutchDude · Apr 19, 2019

What is this even used for...?!

thebluebumblebee · Apr 19, 2019

TheMadDutchDude said:
What is this even used for...?!

Commander Keen.

lexluthermiester · Apr 20, 2019

venturi said:
Well, on a neural network data training (ML) session I exceeded the 384GB I had so I lifted the ceiling. I now actually can use most of those resources.

Ok, cool. So an actual purpose, not just for giggles. Nice. TBF, just for giggles is cool too, was just curious.

storm-chaser · Apr 20, 2019

Well done. Looks insane! Keep up the good work...

venturi · Apr 29, 2019

Ram fan conundrum:

A. I like silent and those fans sound like turbines
B. They won’t fit due to proximity of video card slot, I tried a few

I did buy pure copper heatspreaders and 10 packs of the pad minus 8 thermal grizzly.

I don’t like using the included two sided tape because if you reseat it or try to take it off Theresa good chance you’ll just rip chips right off the ram pcb.

And, the tape is not very thermally conductive.

The minus 8 Pad 1mm and very heat conductive and electrically inert. And isn’t sticky.

At 1mm it’s two thick tours on the heat spreaders, so i’m going to run it through a lasagna press and squish it down to .5mm (and doubling the area it would cover. Then it should be a solution.

LRDIMM best heat spreader design I can come up with :

So here is the process I went through to use pure copper heatsinks, no adhesive, and thermal ceramic clay.

6 of these ceramic clay and wax paper:

lasagna press to reduce 1 mm TIM to .5 mm and gain area.

assembly line

in place:

Dimm Temps
medium low use / idle temps / checking mail / being on this forum temps:

about 42 C average across 12 LRDIMMs

and this concludes the experiment. some observations:

under load the LRDIMMS still get warm / hot but 13C less than before.

after a workout, the dimm temps stay higher longer due to the amount of mass / heat retention added by the ceramic clay and the copper sandwich.

seems to be an improvement overall.

lexluthermiester · Apr 29, 2019

venturi said:
Ram fan conundrum:

A. I like silent and those fans sound like turbines
B. They won’t fit due to proximity of video card slot, I tried a few

I did buy pure copper heatspreaders and 10 packs of the pad minus 8 thermal grizzly.

I don’t like using the included two sided tape because if you reseat it or try to take it off Theresa good chance you’ll just rip chips right off the ram pcb.

And, the tape is not very thermally conductive.

The minus 8 Pad 1mm and very heat conductive and electrically inert. And isn’t sticky.

At 1mm it’s two thick tours on the heat spreaders, so i’m going to run it through a lasagna press and squish it down to .5mm (and doubling the area it would cover. Then it should be a solution.

LRDIMM best heat spreader design I can come up with :

So here is the process I went through to use pure copper heatsinks, no adhesive, and thermal ceramic clay.

6 of these ceramic clay and wax paper:
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lasagna press to reduce 1 mm TIM to .5 mm and gain area.
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assembly line
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in place:
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Dimm Temps
medium low use / idle temps / checking mail / being on this forum temps:

about 42 C average across 12 LRDIMMs

and this concludes the experiment. some observations:

under load the LRDIMMS still get warm / hot but 13C less than before.

after a workout, the dimm temps stay higher longer due to the amount of mass / heat retention added by the ceramic clay and the copper sandwich.

seems to be an improvement overall.

Almost a work of art. Definitely a work of excellence! :toast:

As this sentence is being typed out from a 7 year old Dell T3500 that still provides good performance, I wonder how long it will be until that machine will no longer be useful...

thebluebumblebee · Apr 29, 2019

The CPU coolers changed? Do I see some NH-U14S DX-3647?

venturi · Apr 29, 2019

thebluebumblebee said:
The CPU coolers changed? Do I see some NH-U14S DX-3647?

yes, but not simple. Out of the box the dx-3647 encroach into the video card slot by 1.7mm

some augmented reality later, I was able to make them fit.....

it was hell

here were some picks after surgery (but before ram heat spreaders)

thebluebumblebee · Apr 29, 2019

venturi said:
Out of the box the dx-3647 encroach into the video card slot by 1.7mm

Who's fault is that, Asus or Noctua? I'd think they, especially Noctua, would want to hear about that.

Vayra86 · Apr 29, 2019

venturi said:
I'm not using any add on cards. Plus, with 4 Titan Vs on the board, there really aren't any slots available

4 Titan V's...
768GB RAM

You wot mate. Can I borrow it? I'll return it I promise

xkm1948 said:
384gb ram

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OH MY F**ING GOD

No. Its time for another nerdgasm already.

Thoroughly enjoying this thread and your build. Balls to the wall getting redefined in front of our eyes, much like.

lexluthermiester · Apr 30, 2019

Vayra86 said:
You wot mate. Can I borrow it? I'll return it I promise

You are completely bloody bonkers. :kookoo:

LOL! Yeah, THAT'LL happen.. :laugh:

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Audio Device(s)	harmon Kardon speakers / apple
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Motherboard	Asrock Z390 Taichi Ultimate/ Dual Asrock X370 Proffesional Gaming
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Display(s)	Asus ProArt PAU32UCG-K
Case	TT miniITX P1 (SFF)
Audio Device(s)	harmon Kardon speakers / apple
Power Supply	2050w 2050r
Mouse	Mad Catz pro X
Keyboard	KeyChron Q6 Pro
Software	MS 2022 Data Center Server, Ubuntu
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