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Is cable management needed?

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Does it affect anything else besides from looks? I mean yeah, it makes it more organized and easier to find things, but any other benefits?
Currently thinking about building my pc as a sloppy mess, since my case has so many sharp edges I CONSTANTLY find my self pricking on.
 
It can effect airflow a bit, sure.

Its about organization and not looking at a rats nest of wires..
I'll just cable manage mine a tiny bit, just push the cables I don't need to the back. No need for zipties.
 
Cable management pros:
1) Potentially better airflow.
2) Less chance of something shorting out by an unfortunate accident.
3) Less things for dust to catch on, and having a neat layout makes the system easier to clean.

Cable management cons:
1) You might end up having to dismantle some of it to get to another connector that you originally never thought you'd need.
2) It takes effort.

Not doing it isn't the end of the world, but I usually at least do something basic like tucking cabling out of the way if I am not using it and removing extra unneeded connectors from a modular power supply.

EDIT: And I really recommend NOT using zipties. Use something that is not hard to re-open and re-use, like velcro straps.
 
Cable management pros:
1) Potentially better airflow.
2) Less chance of something shorting out by an unfortunate accident.
3) Less things for dust to catch on, and having a neat layout makes the system easier to clean.

Cable management cons:
1) You might end up having to dismantle some of it to get to another connector that you originally never thought you'd need.
2) It takes effort.

Not doing it isn't the end of the world, but I usually at least do something basic like tucking cabling out of the way if I am not using it and removing extra unneeded connectors from a modular power supply.
Yeah, that's what I plan on doing. Thanks
 
Does it affect anything else besides from looks? I mean yeah, it makes it more organized and easier to find things, but any other benefits?
Currently thinking about building my pc as a sloppy mess, since my case has so many sharp edges I CONSTANTLY find my self pricking on.

It's easier today w/o IDE cables and since Phanteks came on the scene it's something that gets attention from designers ... but yes, a cabe we can significant;y impact air flow. Makes troubleshooting easier as you can find / see which cable is which. And many tech folks are anal about things "being nice and neat" ... I drained my loop after a few days of use as one of the pipe runs was not at a perfect 90 degrees.
 
It's easier today w/o IDE cables and since Phanteks came on the scene it's something that gets attention from designers ... but yes, a cabe we can significant;y impact air flow. Makes troubleshooting easier as you can find / see which cable is which. And many tech folks are anal about things "being nice and neat" ... I drained my loop after a few days of use as one of the pipe runs was not at a perfect 90 degrees.
I'll just tuck the cables into the back and use the cases included cable holders. Should be okay
 
Poor cable management affects air flow, the accumulation of and ease of cleaning of dust bunnies, organization and aesthetics.
 
Poor cable management can hurt airflow, sure. Dust is probably a bigger problem, though. And then, there's just the matter of how seriously you take things. I mean... imagine telling someone you build PC's and then when they're interested in seeing what you do, you have to show them your dusty, thrown-together rats nest. To me that's kind of embarrassing. I dunno. That might not be everyone, specifically you at your age... but I can tell you I have gotten some pretty nicely paying commissions after showing people my builds and having them be impressed at how clean they are. Good cable management is such a little, almost inconsequential thing, but it does send the message that you know what you're doing and you take pride in what you do. It's not a matter of glamor like fancy gamer stuff with addressable RGB... it more shows diligence and commitment. With cables properly tucked away and secured, a build looks like it was done with purpose and care.

I just figure for most people, it eventually becomes a little closer to the heart and you find yourself just wanting to do it right, because that's what you do!

I guess as far as that goes, you have to ask yourself if it's an act of passion or simply a means to an end. In the latter case, sure... forget cable management. But if you've put together a custom build and you're not even gonna take measures to keep it clean, such as cable management, I do kind of question that. Why bother if you're not gonna put in the work for it?

I go all the way with my cable management for a few simple reasons. Number one is that it is easy with modern cases. You've got openings, shrouds, tie-points, and spacious back compartments. A lot of them even have pretty useful clips built onto the back sections. There's almost no excuse now. What's maybe 30 minutes of time for the money spent? And as far as having to dismantle for upgrades, to me that comes with the territory of customizing your custom machine. That's just part of it. But either way, most cases have clear paths for every cable running to/from every region, so it's usually fairly easy to keep everything sequestered off. Personally, where I have a lot of cables for different things running parallel, I join them together at different tie points and work them into a group (most cables are pliable enough to stay together just working them with your hands.) This way, if I need to pop out a fan or something, I just cut the tie that tethers my intake fans to my IO cables (meanwhile exhaust is on it's own tie points,) while still leaving those tethered further up. Zip ties are cheap and easy to undo/redo. A small pair of diagonal pliers makes quick work of them, and with patience and a little skill you'll never snip a wire with them. If you plan it right, they'll be minimal anyway. You can use a handful of tie points as an anchor for heavy cables, and then use velcro ties to tether the lighter ones to those. Not so bad.

As for a real practical reason to tie your cables down, it keeps them plugged in! Some are clipped down or just so snug you feel like you'll break the connector if you pull them out wrong. But then you have sata and fan cables, which can easily be jostled out when moving your build or working inside of it. Sometimes they can fall out on their own. Easy way to spend an unnecessary amount of time troubleshooting a nonexistent malfunction. One or two pull ties solves that. And even if they never get disconnected, who's to say the unsecured cables won't pop and flop out here and there? Gets annoying to always be repositioning them.
 
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Just don't be "that guy" who puts zip ties on everything and cranks them down. It can damage the wires
 
Just don't be "that guy" who puts zip ties on everything and cranks them down. It can damage the wires
Indeed, no reason to squeeze em down. You're securing them, but they can't exactly run away anyway. I've made that mistake before... when you see an actual impression in the cable you know you've gone too far. And cutting those ties off without snipping the cables will be agonizing. There's no tool I know of for that! Better to use two semi-slacked ties in different places than to pull em in too tight on a singular point that you played tug of war with and lost.
 
Indeed, no reason to squeeze em down. You're securing them, but they can't exactly run away anyway. I've made that mistake before... when you see an actual impression in the cable you know you've gone too far. And cutting those ties off without snipping the cables will be agonizing. There's no tool I know of for that! Better to use two semi-slacked ties in different places than to pull em in too tight on a singular point that you played tug of war with and lost.

Snap on make a zip tie tool. Not really necessary though. Velcro ties are nice too
 
Snap on make a zip tie tool. Not really necessary though. Velcro ties are nice too
That's pretty cool, but I agree it's probably not needed. Sounds like its probably more for something involving much tighter spaces - maybe where only one hand fits with any leverage, or maybe when you need to undo dozens at a time. Hopefully problems nobody building PC's now should ever have.

I've learned to love velcro ties, myself. I use them in place of pull/zip-ties/tie-straps/cable-ties/whatever-you-call-its wherever possible. They're pretty much impossible to overtighten, removing them is non-destructive and furthermore you can freely reposition them, you can invert one in order to stick two wrapped ties together, they look clean through case windows, you can open them up to slip more connectors through the loop (perfect for experimenting with different fan setups,) and so on. They're just all around nicer. And probably cheaper if you're working on PC's as more than a hobby. My only gripe is that case manufacturers don't see that they are a better option, so they don't tend to make their tie-down points *quite* big enough to fit the standard ones through.
 
My case is pretty big, I don't think I'll need to put a lot of time into cable management. I'm willing to spend 20-30 minutes if it's something for my system though. I'm not a fan of RGB, I hate it and it adds to price, nor do I care about how my pc looks like. Yeah, you can brag about your new fancy $200 case, but it's not going to mean much with the integrated HD 2000 graphics you've been playing cs:go at 10 fps on lowest setting 720p on. I just want a good sturdy case that's going to last me, I don't care about the looks.
 
Some people make there cases into idols.

Many of them have severe ocd as well.


Keep it neat if possible and clean. That's it.
 
Just don't be "that guy" who puts zip ties on everything and cranks them down. It can damage the wires
first time when i did cable management was tight everything down by using zip ties
:D and spent hours when removing them later
 
first time when i did cable management was tight everything down by using zip ties
:D and spent hours when removing them later
I think we all have done this. Its part of the learning ritual
 
The main thing I'm worried about is cables straying into fans.
 
Never bothered with it, the rig should do what it is intended for, practical and spartan. Easy to disconnect and reach any cable. Also it would be impossible with the amount of sata and psu cables I currently have, including two internal usb2 hubs for monitoring corsair devices.
 
I keep this pic for giggles


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Steve Jobs was obsessed with how things looked underneath the bonnet (hood) and I think he was right. It gives peace of mind, knowing that everything is nice and tidy, albeit hidden most of the time.
 
And then, there's just the matter of how seriously you take things. I mean... imagine telling someone you build PC's and then when they're interested in seeing what you do, you have to show them your dusty, thrown-together rats nest. To me that's kind of embarrassing. I dunno
^^^THIS^^^

In addition to all the very valid technical reasons pertaining to dust and air flow (reason enough for good cable management), a "tidy" case just looks more professional and is something to take pride in if you build your own - especially if you have a windowed case.

If you build PCs to sell to others, your potential clients may not notice or really appreciate a tidy case with good cable management. But they sure will notice a sloppy interior!

We learned to appreciate good cable management way back in tech school. It is a lot easier to trace wires back if they are properly run and "dressed" (and labeled too). Plus, they stay out of rotating fan blades, and cannot easily get snagged.

But I also agree that tie-wraps are not necessarily the best way to secure them - even if you don't over tighten them. I like velcro straps too - at least on my own personal systems. Even stuffing excess wires into an unused drive bay can improve the looks.

Of course modular PSUs can help keep wiring from getting too messy. I just wish the ATX Form Factor standard would address those modular cables so all the PSU makers would use the same connectors and the cables from different makers were inter-changeable. Oh well.
 
It is something I put some time into but man it can be tricky, I came to a plan wherein I rebuild my main rig every six months slowly improving, cleaning back out, and sorting out the mistakes I made the last time.
works well enough ,it needs a clean anyway and i'm 3 rebuilds in now ,i am literally just honing it now but man 9 fans and rgb plus controllers ,wow.

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