AMD’s new RDNA GPU Architecture has Been Exclusively Designed for Gamers

[fangxp]

AMD announced its new RDNA GPU architecture at Computex, and the same is expected to power the next-gen Xbox and PS consoles, as well as the Navi GPUs, slated for a launch in July (7th most likely). According to team red, the Radeon RX 5700 will be up to 10% faster than rival NVIDIA’s GeForce RTX 2070. The RDNA macro-architecture is special for many reasons, but the crux of it is that it has been specifically designed for gamers. This also means that AMD won’t abandon the GCN architecture, and the two will keep on evolving side-by-side.

AMD's new RDNA GPU Architecture has Been Exclusively Designed for Gamers

AMD announced its new RDNA GPU architecture at Computex, and the same is expected to power the next-gen Xbox and PS consoles, as well as the Navi GPUs

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[cucker tarlson]

We'll see,the presentation was very disappointing.Testing strage brigade as the only game and pcie bandwidth benchmark seemed pretty desperate attempts to find anything on turing.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

I know this sounds off..
I don't really care what they offer against Turing.
All the games coming to the market for the foreseeable future will be made for AMD's RDNA.... Since they control the console market..
Yes, Nvidia will still be better at everything.. But it won't matter with shitty console ports.

 

[cucker tarlson]

I know this sounds off..
I don't really care what they offer against Turing.
All the games coming to the market for the foreseeable future will be made for AMD's RDNA.... Since they control the console market..
Yes, Nvidia will still be better at everything.. But it won't matter with shitty console ports.

same as all games for ps4 were for gcn but maxwell and pascal made nvidia a near monopoly
yeah yeah yeah we've all heard adoretv's "amd masterplan" videos,I think it's been moved to the fairlytale genre since.

 

[Zareek]

same as all games for ps4 were for gcn but maxwell and pascal made nvidia a near monopoly
yeah yeah yeah we've all heard adoretv's "amd masterplan" videos,I think it's been moved to the fairlytale genre since.

That's the key isn't it? The two reasons I bought an AMD card last year were, the price/performance was amazing with xmas sales and I wanted avoid spending money on Nvidia products. Why did I not want to spend money on anything Nvidia, because they were bullying card partners and the media for one. Couple that with the INSANE prices for the RTX lineup and the decision was simple.

 

[Steevo]

When do we get benchmarks and pricing?

 

[cucker tarlson]

That's the key isn't it? The two reasons I bought an AMD card last year were, the price/performance was amazing with xmas sales and I wanted avoid spending money on Nvidia products. Why did I not want to spend money on anything Nvidia, because they were bullying card partners and the media for one. Couple that with the INSANE prices for the RTX lineup and the decision was simple.

not everyone buys their gpus in christmas time.
plus,and I can't stress that enough,nvidia cards go on sale much more often than amd.
it's nice you bought your card as a statement,but for me and the majority it's not.neither company will donate their proceeds to charity.the money will go into JHH's pocket as well as mrs Su's pocket.

 

[Vayra86]

Topic title needs a slight fix

AMDs new RDNA arch has been exclusively renamed for gamers

I know this sounds off..
I don't really care what they offer against Turing.
All the games coming to the market for the foreseeable future will be made for AMD's RDNA.... Since they control the console market..
Yes, Nvidia will still be better at everything.. But it won't matter with shitty console ports.

So far all that console dominance has resulted in zero progress on their GPU side. Just more chips at the same performance and near similar price. And they try to sell you that Strange Brigade performance as if it applies everywhere else while it does not.

Cant say Im feeling the gamer love

 

[dirtyferret]

AMD announced its new RDNA GPU architecture...expected to power the next-gen Xbox and PS consoles, as well as the Navi GPUs,.....has been specifically designed for gamers.

BASTARDS!! I've haven't been so shocked or disappointed since I found out ducks have specically designed feathers to be water proof.

 

[moproblems99]

Topic title needs a slight fix

AMDs new RDNA arch has been exclusively renamed for gamers



So far all that console dominance has resulted in zero progress on their GPU side. Just more chips at the same performance and near similar price. And they try to sell you that Strange Brigade performance as if it applies everywhere else while it does not.

Cant say Im feeling the gamer love

I'm still trying to figure out how they are saying this first round of Navi will compete with 2070, even slightly ahead, yet VII will remain the top gpu. Considering that the VII basically competes with the 2070 now (unless you block it) - color me confused?

 

[Rahnak]

yet VII will remain the top gpu

Do we have confirmation from AMD on that?

 

[moproblems99]

Do we have confirmation from AMD on that?

While I can't say for sure as I don't remember, I believe they said VII will remain the top GPU until Navi 20 arrives?

Edit: If this is indeed true, that would tell me that the first round of Navi will be 5-10% slower than 2070 as that would make VII 10-15% faster than RX 5700.

Edit 2: Unless, top tier means 16GB of vram vs 8GB?

 

[Readlight]

At last something fast but whit all the trade war.

 

[Zareek]

not everyone buys their gpus in christmas time.
plus,and I can't stress that enough,nvidia cards go on sale much more often than amd.
it's nice you bought your card as a statement,but for me and the majority it's not.neither company will donate their proceeds to charity.the money will go into JHH's pocket as well as mrs Su's pocket.

I understand not everyone can buy their card during the xmas season. I also know that most US charities are tax shelters for the rich so that wouldn't help anyone. What I want to avoid is a high end graphics card monopoly. Maybe Intel will help but then again they haven't always been a good corporate citizen either...

 

[Vayra86]

I'm still trying to figure out how they are saying this first round of Navi will compete with 2070, even slightly ahead, yet VII will remain the top gpu. Considering that the VII basically competes with the 2070 now (unless you block it) - color me confused?

I suppose technically its going to be correct, and VII will score 3-5 FPS more or something insignificant. It was their stated goal anyway with Navi 10; replacing VII at that performance level. Its still a step forward I guess, cost is down, margin is up and they have a product they can actually market.

 

[HD64G]

Radeon VII is the flagship from a compute power aspect along with its 16GB HBM2. It costs more also and will be sold for a higher price until it gets obsolete by the bigger Navi in 2020. Btw, Navi 10 is a very small chip. If it reaches 2070 performance for comparable wattage, the margins will be much higher or AMD could lower the price to very low levels, close to what RX590 is atm. Maybe they will do so later once nVidia starts lowering their prices. We as customers should hope Navi suceeds in order for the mid to high performance GPUs to become approachable again.

 

[moproblems99]

Radeon VII is the flagship from a compute power aspect along with its 16GB HBM2. It costs more also and will be sold for a higher price until it gets obsolete by the bigger Navi in 2020. Btw, Navi 10 is a very small chip. If it reaches 2070 performance for comparable wattage, the margins will be much higher or AMD could lower the price to very low levels, close to what RX590 is atm. Maybe they will do so later once nVidia starts lowering their prices. We as customers should hope Navi suceeds in order for the mid to high performance GPUs to become approachable again.

I hope everyone succeeds. What is the point of wishing for someone else's failure?

I just don't expect Navi to match 2070 as it will totally butcher any possible sales for the VII other than a very specific set of use cases. I realistically see Navi coming in at the upper half of the difference betwen 2060 and 2070.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

I know this sounds off..
I don't really care what they offer against Turing.
All the games coming to the market for the foreseeable future will be made for AMD's RDNA.... Since they control the console market..
Yes, Nvidia will still be better at everything.. But it won't matter with shitty console ports.

Once next-gen consoles are a target, it should get a little better. Those will be Ryzen 2 + Navi, so the games won't have to make due with old 2.x GHz Jaguar cores anymore.

 

[Fluffmeister]

The other issue is many on this forum think cards like the 2070 didn't move the market forward... hell Turing in general, stagnation they said. Yet here we are waiting for Navi to bring the same levels of performance and simlilar levels of efficiency despite being built on cutting edge 7nm tech.

They will undercut as best they can on price, but like the Radeon VII I'm not expecting miracles.

 

[moproblems99]

The other issue is many on this forum think cards like the 2070 didn't move the market forward... hell Turing in general, stagnation they said. Yet here we are waiting for Navi to bring the same levels of performance and simlilar levels of efficiency despite being built on cutting edge 7nm tech.

They will undercut as best they can on price, but like the Radeon VII I'm not expecting miracles.

I hope they don't undercut. Let AMD reap some money like everyone else.

I think the only reason Turing is viewed as stagnant is that only one card came out that was more powerful than then generation before it. The top 9 series card ended up being the third most powerful 10 series. The most powerful 10 series ended up being the second most powerful 20 series.

The 1080 launched at $499 over 2 years ago. The 2070 launched at $499 and has basically the same performance. What was the forward movement exactly?

 

[Fluffmeister]

I hope they don't undercut. Let AMD reap some money like everyone else.

I think the only reason Turing is viewed as stagnant is that only one card came out that was more powerful than then generation before it. The top 9 series card ended up being the third most powerful 10 series. The most powerful 10 series ended up being the second most powerful 20 series.

The 1080 launched at $499 over 2 years ago. The 2070 launched at $499 and has basically the same performance. What was the forward movement exactly?

Yeah all valid stuff, I guess Nvidia tried to move the market forward but in a different direction.

Just pointing out the double standards, the $699 GTX 1080 Ti launched way back in March 2017 and yet the $699 Radeon VII as near as makes no diiference two years later still falls short.... with a shiny 16GB of HBM2, they are the gift that keep on not giving.

 

[moproblems99]

Yeah all valid stuff, I guess Nvidia tried to move the market forward but in a different direction.

Just pointing out the double standards, the $699 GTX 1080 Ti launched way back in March 2017 and yet the $699 Radeon VII as near as makes no diiference two years later still falls short.... with a shiny 16GB of HBM2, they are the gift that keep on not giving.

I don't disagree with you there at all. Might as well lump the 2080 along with the VII. I suppose you get a few extra % of performance than the VII though.

 

[xkm1948]

Wasn't Vega's NCU taunted as brand new design as well?

AMD Radeon Vega GPU Architecture

AMD has shared technical details of their highly-expected, upcoming Radeon Vega GPU architecture that succeeds Polaris. We dive down into its individual graphics units to detail what has changed and what improvements these changes promise.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Wasn't Vega's NCU taunted as brand new design as well?

AMD Radeon Vega GPU Architecture

AMD has shared technical details of their highly-expected, upcoming Radeon Vega GPU architecture that succeeds Polaris. We dive down into its individual graphics units to detail what has changed and what improvements these changes promise.

www.techpowerup.com

Yes, which is why there is cause for concern. It might be rebranding rather than reimagining. We need an architectural breakdown from AMD.

 

[Zareek]

Yes, which is why there is cause for concern. It might be rebranding rather than reimagining. We need an architectural breakdown from AMD.

Yup, at this point all I smell is a steaming pile of marketing!