Gigabyte Shows Off 15 GB/s PCIe 4.0 SSD

[kapone32]

My initial thoughts on this are that I'd have rather seen Gigabyte make a modern I-Ram based on PCIE 4.0 x16. This device would still be crazy paired with primo cache though.

Small random queue depths don't exactly favor all that additional overhead and I'm guessing it was formatted for higher sequential speeds as well on top of that for the wow factor. This thing is targeting a certain crowd of buyers in the first place which I don't think really care about that random I/O speed nearly as much.

If you can wait I think 7nm Threadripper will be better value more surface area for cooling with higher core count and cache sizes and quad channel support for more memory bandwidth. One thing I'd love to know is if some X399 motherboard could support PCIE 4.0 with a bios update they way a few of them do for AM4. In theory I don't see why not and might even be more likely the X399 motherboards are a bit more substantial to begin with. I'd be more surprised if none of them do and it's skipped entirely, but who knows.

It is interesting thinking about TR4 vs X570 and PCI_E 4.0. If the X470 boards can support it with the top M2(Not sure about this one) & first PCI-E 16 slot via a BIOS update, then I don't see why all of the PCI_E 16 and NVME slots should not do the same for TR4 as 60 lanes are tied to the CPU directly. The node shrink should mean that we may even see a 140 Watt part on TR4 with 12+ cores.

 

[RoutedScripter]

People lost their shit about that tiny fan on the chipset. What about a blower style SSD ?

I like the fact that more things are getting air fans just about when the convenience-freaks thought things are going to get super-ultra-green-low-power so that you wouldn't even need cooling anymore, welcome to reality.

Still there is obsession with low power and is getting very annoying, that's why the chipsets are 11W as they could be more so even at 11W it's toned down. The least bill I look at is the power bill, I could count on 1 hand how many times I looked at it in the last 20 years, water has been running down the turbines at a local hydroelectric river powerplant for decades and it will continue until the end of the solar system, who the hell cares about the stupid wattage. I'm tired of this consumer-pesant products, is there a law that computers have to be below certain wattage, we need a professional PC platform for running simulators and extreme demanding software, why is the industry wasting time cramming so much in the small ATX-EATX form factor, give me a PC the size of a refrigerator for crying out loud, with central cooling down in the basement bringing up chilled air at 0 Celsius for standard problem solved, this whole cooling thing is such a non issue the internet is making it to be, just drill out a refrigerator and make circulation and tubes, and it's done.

Half of this "innovation" in development and tech is only about miniaturization, waste of time and money IMO, it shouldn't be the primary goal for enthusiast level.

 

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I like the fact that more things are getting air fans just about when the convenience-freaks thought things are going to get super-ultra-green-low-power so that you wouldn't even need cooling anymore, welcome to reality.

Still there is obsession with low power and is getting very annoying, that's why the chipsets are 11W as they could be more so even at 11W it's toned down. The least bill I look at is the power bill, I could count on 1 hand how many times I looked at it in the last 20 years, water has been running down the turbines at a local hydroelectric river powerplant for decades and it will continue until the end of the solar system, who the hell cares about the stupid wattage. I'm tired of this consumer-pesant products, is there a law that computers have to be below certain wattage, we need a professional PC platform for running simulators and extreme demanding software, why is the industry wasting time cramming so much in the small ATX-EATX form factor, give me a PC the size of a refrigerator for crying out loud, with central cooling down in the basement bringing up chilled air at 0 Celsius for standard problem solved, this whole cooling thing is such a non issue the internet is making it to be, just drill out a refrigerator and make circulation and tubes, and it's done.

Half of this "innovation" in development and tech is only about miniaturization, waste of time and money IMO, it shouldn't be the primary goal for enthusiast level.

Looking at your nick, I remembered this joke about Russian scientists inventing a minuscule super-computer...
It was pocketable, super-fast, the only drawback being that it needed room-sized batteries to operate.

 

[shockwaveriderz]

Highpoint has had something similar to this for at least 7 months.
highpoint ssd7102
their ssd7101 dates to 2017.
Nothing new here other than it's PCIe 4.0

I have a question: how about a PCIe 4.0 x16 card that you can put ddr4 ram on? Would something like that work? Be feasible?

 

[RoutedScripter]

Looking at your nick, I remembered this joke about Russian scientists inventing a minuscule super-computer...
It was pocketable, super-fast, the only drawback being that it needed room-sized batteries to operate.

Haha, no actually It's from the way good old days of Call of Duty 2 and 4. Translates to RussianSniper ... but it had nothing to do with actual Russians, except the COD2's soviet army stuff.

 

[neomoco]

RuskiSnajper your comment about low power has to be the stupidest comment i have seen on the internet in a while , there is so much to respond about it that i really dont have the time to do it as it would take 2 pages at least.

 

[Prima.Vera]

Neah, SATA SSDs can do like 50-60MB/s (https://www.anandtech.com/show/13761/the-samsung-970-evo-plus-ssd-review/6).
But if you go by sequential numbers, you may tricked into thinking these new drives are several times faster than what you already have.

Still is slow af. Especially considering that those are RAID drives in one single package

 

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Still is slow af. Especially considering that those are RAID drives in one single package

Oh absolutely. It's why I cringe every single time I read an advertorial talking solely about sequential speeds.
But this one isn't slower or comparable to a cheap SSD, it's twice as fast.

 

[RoutedScripter]

RuskiSnajper your comment about low power has to be the stupidest comment i have seen on the internet in a while , there is so much to respond about it that i really dont have the time to do it as it would take 2 pages at least.

EDIT: I decided I'm going to make a thread just about this specifically.

 

[kapone32]

I like the fact that more things are getting air fans just about when the convenience-freaks thought things are going to get super-ultra-green-low-power so that you wouldn't even need cooling anymore, welcome to reality.

Still there is obsession with low power and is getting very annoying, that's why the chipsets are 11W as they could be more so even at 11W it's toned down. The least bill I look at is the power bill, I could count on 1 hand how many times I looked at it in the last 20 years, water has been running down the turbines at a local hydroelectric river powerplant for decades and it will continue until the end of the solar system, who the hell cares about the stupid wattage. I'm tired of this consumer-pesant products, is there a law that computers have to be below certain wattage, we need a professional PC platform for running simulators and extreme demanding software, why is the industry wasting time cramming so much in the small ATX-EATX form factor, give me a PC the size of a refrigerator for crying out loud, with central cooling down in the basement bringing up chilled air at 0 Celsius for standard problem solved, this whole cooling thing is such a non issue the internet is making it to be, just drill out a refrigerator and make circulation and tubes, and it's done.

Half of this "innovation" in development and tech is only about miniaturization, waste of time and money IMO, it shouldn't be the primary goal for enthusiast level.

If that is the way you feel get X299 or X399 and be happy. In fact X399 boards are currently and it looks like they will be cheaper than X570. That will give you all the computing you can handle and then some and heat your room for free in the winter.

 

[RoutedScripter]

If that is the way you feel get X299 or X399 and be happy. In fact X399 boards are currently and it looks like they will be cheaper than X570. That will give you all the computing you can handle and then some and heat your room for free in the winter.

The good thing about it is at least I won't need a new PSU when I upgrade, I guess. Not sure how Radeon VII will do over RX 480

 

[kapone32]

The good thing about it is at least I won't need a new PSU when I upgrade, I guess. Not sure how Radeon VII will do over RX 480

What??? there is no comparison between a 480 and Vega VII. The Vega has 16GB of HBM2 Ram vs 8 GB on the 480. The Vega card is at least 300 MHZ faster than the 480 and has double the compute units.

The good thing about it is at least I won't need a new PSU when I upgrade, I guess. Not sure how Radeon VII will do over RX 480

I just looked at your specs and a 750W PSU would struggle with a proper X399 or X299 rig. The CPUs alone (since you don't care about power draw I am assuming that you will OC the hell out of whatever one) can draw over 300 watts.