ASMedia-sourced AMD B550, A520 Chipset Motherboards Arrive in 2020

[plonk420]

taking advantage of the USB BIOS Flashback feature that's almost universally available on the AMD platform

uhhh, per this thread, there are 5 Asus boards with USB Flashback (updating without a CPU) and 11 MSI boards (mainly 400 series). the others supposedly don't

 

[TheLostSwede]

Does anyone have solid evidence that B550 won't have better memory performance with 3000 series Zen? Remember that B die is not only overpriced it is EOL.

Also, for those who mentioned the first generation boards... a news report I read said only some of the B350 boards will get BIOS updates, most likely the "most popular" of them. So, if your board didn't sell well enough, you may be out of luck.

What does the chipset have to do with performance? It's simply a PCIe and peripheral connectivity bridge chip.

The motherboard design might be improved slightly to allow for better memory performance past a certain point, but that's the only thing I can think of, beyond PCIe 4.0 support.

As for older boards, that's down to the board makers. Technically my X370 board will support the new CPUs, but that doesn't seem to apply to all boards. Part of the reason not all boards will support the 3000-series is due to the SPI flash chips used not being big enough, which limits how much data can be stored. For some reason, it seems AMD's CPU profiles are quite big and as such, support for non Ryzen based APUs have been dropped on boards that added Ryzen 3000-series support.

 

[GreiverBlade]

need to stop mentioning the X570 will be pricy... when all price prevision are on par with the X470 lineup ....

at last for me, cheapest X470 : 169$ cheapest mentioned X570 160'ish $ (159.99$ to be exa.... whatever... ), highest X470 308$, highest mentioned X570 (horror HEDT pricing! ) 299$
well i am sure my retailer/etailer will adjust the X570 pricing nonetheless




















but a X570 + a R9 3950X will still be cheaper than a 9980XE alone ...

 

[mstenholm]

need to stop mentioning the X570 will be pricy... when all price prevision are on par with the X470 lineup ....

at last for me, cheapest X470 : 169$ cheapest mentioned X570 160'ish $ (159.99$ to be exa.... whatever... ), highest X470 308$, highest mentioned X570 (horror HEDT pricing! ) 299$
well i am sure my retailer/etailer will adjust the X570 pricing nonetheless


t a X570 + a R9 3950X will still be cheaper than a 9980XE alone ...

I think that ROG Crosshair VIII Formula ($699.99 ) and MEG X570 Godlike at 777 Euro (original link/post overruled by MSI) is why some got a bit, what do you say, surprised?

 

[evernessince]

Really weird that it will take that long for low and mid range motherboards to enter market.

This will seriously hamper Ryzen 3 and 5 cpu sales rest of the year for people looking for Ryzen 3000 PCIe 4.0 system on a budget.

They should have had these chipsets available this summer already to maximize the sales of Ryzen 3000 while they have a clear advantage in the market.

While doing every thing else just right this is a BIG MISS BY AMD.

Sure you can choose to go for a cheap 400 series PCIe 3.0 motherboard with Ryzen 3000 BUT most people will feel that they want PCIe 4.0 when they anyways buy a cpu that supports it.

The salvation here is if motherboard manufacturers redesign and market new motherboards that have proper support for PCIe 4.0 with 400 series chipset.

EDIT:
Can see down below people are trashing PCIe 4.0 and says it make no difference now and we could as well stick to PCIe 3.0.

Well if i buy a computer now i won't upgrade again for like 5 years or more, so maybe PCIe 4.0 don't matter on day one but it could definitely matter in a couple of years or so and then i don't want to be sitting there with PCIe 3.0 when i could have had PCIe 4.0.

Really hope at lest a few price worthy X570 motherboards will turn up that doesn't kill your budget totally.

Given that PCIe is a bleeding edge feature that mostly interests professionals only, I doubt it will come anywhere near seriously hampering sales. It will be priced according to the market it is targeting. If your end goal is to have PCIe 4.0 when you need it you'd be much better off getting a quality B450 board now and then another board when you acutally need PCIe 4.0. That would likely run you the same amount as a cheap X570 board and you'd have a constantly up to date PC. Unless you explicitly need 4.0 right now, that makes the most sense.

The 2080 Ti is nowhere near saturating PCIe 3.0, we are at least 6 years out from needing PCIe 4.0. Right now it is strictly for professionals.

X370, B450, and X470 motherboards will all support Ryzen 3000 series CPUs.

 

[HTC]

X370, B450, and X470 motherboards will all support Ryzen 3000 series CPUs.

You mean to say "should all support" but this isn't 100% confirmed just yet.

Furthermore: this is in regard for up to 8c / 16t Zen 2 CPUs only, because i seriously doubt higher core count Zen 2 CPUs will be supported on most B450 boards, as well as some X370 / X470 boards.

We shall see ...

 

[Ruru]

I'd see no benefits for a long ago for PCIE 4.0, maybe for SSDs but with GPUs, we're still fine with PCIE 3.0.

 

[zlobby]

I'd see no benefits for a long ago for PCIE 4.0, maybe for SSDs but with GPUs, we're still fine with PCIE 3.0.

Even more so with PCIe 5.0 knocking on the door.

Although PCIe 4.0 is neat to have, I hope new TR/EYPC to launch with 5.0 support. Maybe intel can force this move?

 

[GreiverBlade]

I think that ROG Crosshair VIII Formula ($699.99 ) and MEG X570 Godlike at 777 Euro (original link/post overruled by MSI) is why some got a bit, what do you say, surprised?

oh .... you mean the high high high *cough*pointless for many*cough* one ... well indeed that's higher priced ... but they have no X470 counterpart and the price is still lined up with the current X470 ex: 160-299-700 is kinda expected ... (not even surprising me ... Intel counterpart were close or above that ) but even with that one ... a MEG X570 Godlike + a R9-3950X will be cheaper than a 9980XE alone ... so why the complain about the rise

although ... i think it's right to raise the price when you do good (even tho my wallet does not like it ... ) and Intel did raise price while doing "ok, thanks to AMD sleeping" (sleeping? .... well they did sleep less than Intel or as Intel thought they did ...)

I'd see no benefits for a long ago for PCIE 4.0, maybe for SSDs but with GPUs, we're still fine with PCIE 3.0.

true ... and while the not 100% assured compatibility i might take a *Oh god, horror HEDT pricing* x470 of the top line at 308chf ... and a R7 3700 (and still have enough to buy food and drink even tho it's overrated )

 

[madness777]

Gigabyte B450M DS3H already has a Gen4 option in the BIOS. It's a 70€ motherboard.

 

[iO]

Asmedia's PCIe4 capable ones are yet to be named as A520 and B550 are alleged respins of the existing 300/400 series chip and thus only PCIe3 but with fixes for Chimera.

There is also word of a X590 chipset with all 24 lanes enabled for the 3950X launch in fall...

 

[TheLostSwede]

we are at least 6 years out from needing PCIe 4.0. Right now it is strictly for professionals.

Based on what exactly? Making a statement like that without backing it up is just silly.

Even more so with PCIe 5.0 knocking on the door.

Although PCIe 4.0 is neat to have, I hope new TR/EYPC to launch with 5.0 support. Maybe intel can force this move?

PCIe 5.0 won't arrive in Intel products until 2021 and if people consider 4.0 being too much for consumers, why would anyone need 5.0?
I doubt we'll see 5.0 in any consumer products until 2022/2023. As for TR/EPYC, no, it's not going to happen until 2021 at the earliest, as AMD has no reason to accelerate their implementation just to beat Intel to a pointless goalpost.

Gigabyte B450M DS3H already has a Gen4 option in the BIOS. It's a 70€ motherboard.

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Did you miss the news about AMD disabling this feature, due to not all board qualifying to meet the PCIe 4.0 standard?
As such, there's no official support from AMD's side for this, but we might still see the feature hanging around.

Some interesting details with regards to the X570 thermals here https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3482-amd-x570-vs-x470-x370-chipset-comparison

 

[Assimilator]

Why are people crying about this? The only ones who need PCIe 4.0 are those who need stupidly fast storage... and stupidly fast storage is stupidly expensive. In other words, if you *really* need PCIe 4.0, you can afford X570.

From AMD's side, it makes sense to keep X470/B350 around for as long as they can, both because they don't actually have a replacement for them, secondly to recoup the cost of having those chipsets developed, and thirdly to ensure all the inventory is digested.

Consumers will also win because X570 will push the prices of X470 and B350 boards down, which means we'll be able to get more features for less money. As someone who's going to be building a Ryzen 2 system in a couple of months, this makes me pretty happy.

And for anyone wondering why AMD made an X570 chipset at all: they had to because ASmedia isn't ready, but they actually cheated because the "chipset" is simply a slightly modified version of the IO die present on Ryzen 2.

 

[Tomgang]

This dosent matter so much for me, as i have all ready pretty much set my mind for ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero with out wifi motherboard with X570 chipsæt and a Ryzen 9 3950X CPU. Only if intel pulls a rabbit out of there hat and presents a cpu/chipsæt that are truly specielt and a good price (Knowing intel, a good price is not gonna happen) or Ryzen 3000 turns out to be a big fail.

This will be my future setup, replacing my X58 setup. Just waiting for reviews and off cause that i get saved up some more money for it.

 

[Metroid]

Rumour has, an x590 appeared in the wild charging $500 plus. Get ready trolls.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Rumour has, an x590 appeared in the wild charging $500 plus. Get ready trolls.

meh .... X570 is already in the 600-777$ range for the top elite mobos that everyone will obviously need (*cough*sarcasme*cough*) ... that price for the X590 doesn't line up (oh well again ... a X590 at 500$+ or 700$+ plus a R9 3950X will still be less than a 9980XE alone ... yep i am repeating myself but as i said ... no need to complain with pricing that line up with the current offer )

 

[zlobby]

Rumour has, an x590 appeared in the wild charging $500 plus. Get ready trolls.

Cheapest ROG Zenith Alpha costs 600Eur (in EU at least) right now, nearly a year after initial release.

$500 sound like a good news.

EDIT: I didn't pay attention that it's not the X599. It's rather a premium of the already premium X570. Eek!

 

[Metroid]

Cheapest ROG Zenith Alpha costs 600Eur (in EU at least) right now, nearly a year after initial release.

$500 sound like a good news.

EDIT: I didn't pay attention that it's not the X599. It's rather a premium of the already premium X570. Eek!

The way things are, amd motherboard partners will make AMD to create a yet premium premium premium x599 at $1000 plus.

Asus call the people who buys their rog motherboards "AAA Gamers"

I wonder what Asus will call the people who will buy their premium premium x590. "AAA Gamers" will become "$$$ Gamers" hehe

Fixed!!!!!

 

[zlobby]

The way things are, amd motherboard partners will make AMD to create a yet premium premium premium x599 at $1000 plus.

Asus call the people who buys their rog motherboards "AAA Gamers"

I wonder what Asus will call the people who will buy their premium premium x590. "AAA Gamers" will become "$$$ Gamers" heheView attachment 125015

Fixed!!!!!

That ROM made me giggle. Too bad it's true, though.

That's why I will vote with my wallet, i.e. they can sooki mi kooki. Shame, I can really use a beefy Threadripper now.

 

[Metroid]

That ROM made me giggle. Too bad it's true, though.

That's why I will vote with my wallet, i.e. they can sooki mi kooki. Shame, I can really use a beefy Threadripper now.

I think what I did was pretty good hehe, rom at the top of the pyramid hehe and if you think about, that is very true, asus never named that price point yet because that would be against money itself hehe

 

[Durvelle27]

B350, X370, B450, and X470 motherboards will all support Ryzen 3000 series CPUs.

You forgot B350

My board which is a B350 chipset has had Ryzen 3000 support added

 

[Metroid]

You forgot B350

My board which is a B350 chipset has had Ryzen 3000 support added

Did he forget? b350 was the first thing he said.

 

[Durvelle27]

Did he forget? b350 was the first thing he said.

I added that

this is his original post

Given that PCIe is a bleeding edge feature that mostly interests professionals only, I doubt it will come anywhere near seriously hampering sales. It will be priced according to the market it is targeting. If your end goal is to have PCIe 4.0 when you need it you'd be much better off getting a quality B450 board now and then another board when you acutally need PCIe 4.0. That would likely run you the same amount as a cheap X570 board and you'd have a constantly up to date PC. Unless you explicitly need 4.0 right now, that makes the most sense.

The 2080 Ti is nowhere near saturating PCIe 3.0, we are at least 6 years out from needing PCIe 4.0. Right now it is strictly for professionals.

X370, B450, and X470 motherboards will all support Ryzen 3000 series CPUs.

 

[GreiverBlade]

The way things are, amd motherboard partners will make AMD to create a yet premium premium premium x599 at $1000 plus.

nah AMD will do nothing ... but the partners will probably make that kind of mobo at 1000$ ... (but not a X599 ... it's a Intel mobo chip )


buuuuutttt ... we can bet a AMD 1k$ mobo plus the top of the line CPU (HEDT or not) will still be cheaper than a 9980XE ......... again ... pfeeeeewww the price of the 9980XE is almost a meme, oh well...

The way things are, amd motherboard partners will make AMD to create a yet premium premium premium x599 at $1000 plus.

Asus call the people who buys their rog motherboards "AAA Gamers"

I wonder what Asus will call the people who will buy their premium premium x590. "AAA Gamers" will become "$$$ Gamers" heheView attachment 125015

Fixed!!!!!

nonetheless ... the fixes made my day (Sun ... day ... )

Cheapest ROG Zenith Alpha costs 600Eur (in EU at least) right now, nearly a year after initial release.

$500 sound like a good news.

EDIT: I didn't pay attention that it's not the X599. It's rather a premium of the already premium X570. Eek!

kinda confused? ... X599 : intel, X570: upcoming AMD chipset (and well ... since, as i mentioned, there is no "ultra high end" X470 in the actual lineup ... a 500+ premium X570 is not too disturbing ... )

X570 has a standard pricing ... compared to X470 and in direct continuation of the X470 pricing (well ... compared to my country ) thus not "already premium" since as i mentioned once... a low end X570 is priced around a first price X470 and et cetera .... i fail to see where is "OOOOHHHH THE HORROR PRICING!!!" aside the "ultra high end" mobo that didn't exist in the X470 lineup but that have a logical raise in price compared to the rest of the lineup ...

making mountains out of molehills ... i guess ...

 

[erocker]

They're saying expensive and that may very well be at first, but it seems there's also going to be a lot of competition. I would expect there will be deals a month or two after launch.