Confirmed: AMD to Cut RX 5700-series Prices at Launch

[Vayra86]

I may agree on everything else but the "less features" thing and not mentioning the bundles offered by AMD just made you look as an Nvidia spokesman or simply a fanboy

But its true, you can still decide what feature set appeals to you more. But its not just RTX. AMD is always a bit later with added features and broad support for them. Notable exception being Freesync; though even that was touched on recently.

These things do have weight for potential buyers, like it or not.

Bundles also have weight. But they arent GPU brand related features that you are 'stuck with'.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Nice to see one company is paying attention to the world.

What's the over/under on the number of times this gets posted in the forums?

Were at 3 so far...!


As I said, they need to focus on their products, not marketing tricky and reindeer games.

fair enough but it is easier said than done when your competitor is soo aggressive, that finger of disappointment should be aimed at them both, they need to stop effing about trying to do each other over with marketing snides and as you say concentrate on getting consumers a better deal, 4k, 8k, and 120Hz plus are only getting more popular as will adequate hardware to run it.

at vayra86 aside from cuda physx and RTX Nvidia brought nothing to the ecosystem and they only do so to profit more. ..

X64 ,tesselation, 1Ghz a few times, integrated memory controllers ,pciex4 ,dual cores ,quads, octos, the fastest processor(x86/64consumer) ,useful APU's, first to5Ghz, first quad Soc, many firsts in consumer max and multi cores, fisrt 7nm consumer gpu cpu ,vulkan and dx12 some would argue, HBM ,RPM ,primary shaders first 2d/3d Gpu and many more.

 

[GreiverBlade]

RTX 2060 Super is at the $400 mark, we should expect 5700XT to either equal or just beat it?

doesn't the 5700XT beat or equal a 2080 already? (then it's the 2070 Super counterpart )

for the 2060 Super it would be the 5700 (non XT )

bah, still worth it...

 

[bug]

Never seen such salt over price reductions.

It's not salt, it's a reality check: once more AMD won't beat Nvidia's x60, so Nvidia gets to charge whatever they want above that segment for at least one more year.

I may agree on everything else but the "less features" thing

I haven't paid that much attention to Navi, it may have grown DXR, DLSS and adaptive shading, that much is true.

and not mentioning the bundles offered by AMD just made you look as an Nvidia spokesman or simply a fanboy

I didn't mention bundles because, for various reasons, that's how much they're worth to me (i.e. $0). But yeah, if having three titles instead of two is how make a buying decision, there's that.

And no, that does not make me fanboy. What makes me a fanboy (here and elsewhere) is my stubborn refusal to join the pack chanting "AMD is the underdog so everything they do is righteous; Nvidia and Intel are on top of their game, thus everything they do is evil."

doesn't the 5700XT beat or equal a 2080 already? (then it's the 2070 Super counterpart )

for the 2060 Super it would be the 5700 (non XT )

Interesting how 2070 turns into 2080 sometimes: https://www.techpowerup.com/256422/...beats-geforce-rtx-2070-in-a-spectrum-of-games

 

[Juankato1987]

As a GTX 970 owner I am happy to have some competition finally and being on a 4th gen core i5 I feel like it is finally time to probably go full on new pc. Ram prices are way down. SSD prices are way down. Ryzen 3000 cpu's will be out PCI-E 4 is launching with it. Seems like a good place to jump into the platform.

Hurry Up!!... 'cause RAM prices are going to get up again...

Nice to see one company is paying attention to the world.

fair enough but it is easier said than done when your competitor is soo aggressive, that finger of disappointment should be aimed at them both, they need to stop effing about trying to do each other over with marketing snides and as you say concentrate on getting consumers a better deal, 4k, 8k, and 120Hz plus are only getting more popular as will adequate hardware to run it.

at vayra86 aside from cuda physx and RTX Nvidia brought nothing to the ecosystem and they only do so to profit more. ..

X64 ,tesselation, 1Ghz a few times, integrated memory controllers ,pciex4 ,dual cores ,quads, octos, the fastest processor(x86/64consumer) ,useful APU's, first to5Ghz, first quad Soc, many firsts in consumer max and multi cores, fisrt 7nm consumer gpu cpu ,vulkan and dx12 some would argue, HBM ,RPM ,primary shaders first 2d/3d Gpu and many more.

Question will be, If AMD has so many innovations why they keep being the underdog today (In GPU market) ??
Nvidia has make Innovations in his own way, some of they pretty ambitious (like G-Sync) looking only for keeping they status as a Premiun Brand.
So Why people keep going to the green side??

 

[timta2]

Quite notmal for TPU to make basic typos and errors in their articles now. Its dissappointing.

If you're going to comment critically on someone else's writing, you should make sure yours is up to par, when doing so. Otherwise, it makes you look pretty foolish.

 

[Metroid]

.....

waiting patiently for sapphire ones, a picture is worth 1000 words, thanks for it.

 

[erocker]

So what's the release schedule for AMD's new stuff besides 7/7? Are they going by they're HQ time in Cali?

 

[Xzibit]

Hopefully its not 7:00 am PST because i would want slot machine jackpot sounds

7 / 7 / 7

 

[John Naylor]

When and only when does a company drop prices ?

a) The products are not selling. "Greedy companies" do not control prices, consumers do. They are not charity organizations; read up on capitalism, corporate fiduciary duties and "what the market will bear". As it's not out, this one won't apply.

b) The product can not compete at that price point, in other words, customer sees no value as a higher performance alternative is available a a performance per dollar basis.

AMD undoubtedly set the pricing to try and grab a competitive advantage ... the release of the Super series cut their legs from under AMD. Last time we saw this was when nVidia dusted off the 780 Ti design they had sitting on the shelf, and dropped it right fater then 290x launch

 

[GreiverBlade]

Interesting how 2070 turns into 2080 sometimes: https://www.techpowerup.com/256422/...beats-geforce-rtx-2070-in-a-spectrum-of-games

indeed sometime ... i saw some report mentioning it equaling a 2080 ... i am searching them

edit: oh well i probably misread ... although equaling a 2070 is enough for me ... i have a 1070 and a 2070 is 600$+ (and the 1070 are still in the 500$~ )

 

[medi01]

350 USD for x5700T
279 USD for x5700

Those are for me normal prices and we are not there yet.Nvdia should as well bring prices to these levels plus or minus 10 USD.

Even if AMD would price cards like that, average Joe would look at them and conclude that cards are, in fact, slower.

When and only when does a company drop prices ?

a) The products are not selling. "Greedy companies" do not control prices, consumers do. They are not charity organizations; read up on capitalism, corporate fiduciary duties and "what the market will bear". As it's not out, this one won't apply.

b) The product can not compete at that price point, in other words, customer sees no value as a higher performance alternative is available a a performance per dollar basis.

Oh, really?
I mean, really really?
Isn't there at the very least:

c) To gain market share

in your green bubble?

"Greedy companies" do not control prices, consumers do

 

[Shatun_Bear]

AMD have lowered prices, a good thing, yet the usual sea of Nvidia fanboys have arrived and are so insecure about it they have to wade in here and whine. Grow up.

We'll see if Nvidia's re-badged cards are worth the premium over Navi cards in a few hours.

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

I'll wait for reviews & see if the price cut justifies their worth against Nvidia's recently released RTX Super cards. 5700 non XT, 5700XT vs RTX2060 FE, RTX2060 Super, RTX2070 Super & RTX2080 Super. Benched across 30 games, each in 3 popular resolutions, a suite of synthetic bench like Time Spy & whatnot.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Look at the freebies you get in Japan...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1147783683639635968

 

[Shatun_Bear]

I'll wait for reviews & see if the price cut justifies their worth against Nvidia's recently released RTX Super cards. 5700 non XT, 5700XT vs RTX2060 FE, RTX2060 Super, RTX2070 Super & RTX2080 Super. Benched across 30 games, each in 3 popular resolutions, a suite of synthetic bench like Time Spy & whatnot.

Can't argue with that.

My issue with 30+ game reviews is when too many of the games benched are old DX11 titles, because for my personal use case these aren't relevant because I only play the odd new title, usually DX12 or Vulcan titles (Doom etc and waiting for Doom Eternal) when they come out.

 

[Vayra86]

Nice to see one company is paying attention to the world.

fair enough but it is easier said than done when your competitor is soo aggressive, that finger of disappointment should be aimed at them both, they need to stop effing about trying to do each other over with marketing snides and as you say concentrate on getting consumers a better deal, 4k, 8k, and 120Hz plus are only getting more popular as will adequate hardware to run it.

at vayra86 aside from cuda physx and RTX Nvidia brought nothing to the ecosystem and they only do so to profit more. ..

X64 ,tesselation, 1Ghz a few times, integrated memory controllers ,pciex4 ,dual cores ,quads, octos, the fastest processor(x86/64consumer) ,useful APU's, first to5Ghz, first quad Soc, many firsts in consumer max and multi cores, fisrt 7nm consumer gpu cpu ,vulkan and dx12 some would argue, HBM ,RPM ,primary shaders first 2d/3d Gpu and many more.

Ecosystem? An average consumer doesn't give a rats ass about ecosystem. He doesn't even realize that its a thing. Added features... those do matter. Shadowplay, optimized defaults through GFE, game ready drivers pre-empting a game release, Gsync being earlier than FreeSync, features like Ansel support and implementing Gameworks eye candy, you may or may not like it, but this is what ties people to green when all else is equal. Nvidia has been keeping that up for quite some time now, so its going to take a lot of convincing to show people that AMD caught up in many of these things as well.

'And they only do so to profit more...' No shit sherlock? The best sale happens when a consumer feels its a win-win situation: paying same price for a card that has a richer feature set is such a thing. That is why AMD 'catching up' simply isn't enough. That is why people are ready to pay a few bucks more to get a bit more - or perceive that they get a bit more.

CUDA is an interesting one. It has no relation to gaming, but yes, it does indirectly add to it anyway, because developers use it a lot, so its automagically also creating a higher degree of optimization for it.

Seems like UK prices are a tad high at around the £500 mark...

MSI RADEON RX 5700 XT 8G : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

Buy

www.amazon.co.uk

MSI RADEON RX 5700 8G Graphics Card '8GB GDDR6, 1725Hz, AMD NAVI 10 XL GPU, 3x DisplayPort, HDMI, Single Fan Cooling System' : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

Buy

www.amazon.co.uk

SAPPHIRE RADEON RX5700 XT 8GB 21293-01-40G : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

Buy

www.amazon.co.uk

A launch price was never ever low, that's for sure. This says nothing, really, at this point in time.

Can't argue with that.

My issue with 30+ game reviews is when too many of the games benched are old DX11 titles, because for my personal use case these aren't relevant because I only play the odd new title, usually DX12 or Vulcan titles (Doom etc and waiting for Doom Eternal) when they come out.

But then you can just pick out the DX12 and Vulkan titles and average those, or did I miss something?

 

[TheLostSwede]

Seems like UK prices are a tad high at around the £500 mark, XT or not...
I guess due to Brexit delays, the AMD communiqué didn't make it on time, so they stuck with the "original" pricing.

MSI RADEON RX 5700 XT 8G : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

Buy

www.amazon.co.uk

MSI RADEON RX 5700 8G Graphics Card '8GB GDDR6, 1725Hz, AMD NAVI 10 XL GPU, 3x DisplayPort, HDMI, Single Fan Cooling System' : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

Buy

www.amazon.co.uk

SAPPHIRE RADEON RX5700 XT 8GB 21293-01-40G : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

Buy

www.amazon.co.uk

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1147808706165215232

 

[Divide Overflow]

It's not salt, it's a reality check: once more AMD won't beat Nvidia's x60

Reality shows the 5700 XT soundly beating "Nvidia's x60. Even the "Super" variant.

 

[bug]

Reality shows the 5700 XT soundly beating "Nvidia's x60. Even the "Super" variant.

It's 5% faster than the 2060 Super, over 10% worse in perf/W. If that's "soundly beating", I'd like to see what's "win by a nose" in your view

 

[Divide Overflow]

It's 5% faster than the 2060 Super

So you are backtracking from "AMD won't beat Nvidia's x60" now? Good to hear!

 

[Xaled]

It's 5% faster than the 2060 Super, over 10% worse in perf/W. If that's "soundly beating", I'd like to see what's "win by a nose" in your view

Beating is all about performance, in pure perofmance it is soundly beat the 2060 super. Another beating manner is perfomance/price where even the the 2070 super is a clear loser because it is 12% faster but 25% more expensive. Just get over it.

 

[bug]

So you are backtracking from "AMD won't beat Nvidia's x60" now? Good to hear!

Well, no. 5% is within margin of error (you can't tell that without the help of a benchmark) and it looses more then 5% in pretty much everything else.

Beating is all about performance, in pure perofmance it is soundly beat the 2060 super. Another beating manner is perfomance/price where even the the 2070 super is a clear loser because it is 12% faster but 25% more expensive. Just get over it.

Once again 5% is "soundly beating". English is not my first language, but I went back to the dictionary and found this: https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/soundly-defeated-beaten-thrashed

 

[Xaled]

Well, no. 5% is within margin of error (you can't tell that without the help of a benchmark) and it looses more then 5% in pretty much everything else.

Once again 5% is "soundly beating". English is not my first language, but I went back to the dictionary and found this: https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/soundly-defeated-beaten-thrashed

Nivida fans getting really scientific today. First the dB thing and now dicitionaries .
٪5 in tpu means %10 in real world because TPU test methods always make Nvidia cards look better.
But still %5 is a clear win

 

[bug]

Nivida fans getting really scientific today. First the dB thing and now dicitionaries .

Yeah, I have this thing where when I speak about things I go by the generally accepted definition of terms.

٪5 in tpu means %10 in real world because TPU test methods always make Nvidia cards look better.

Unlike those that define thing as they go along to suit their purpose.

But still %5 is a clear win
So no longer "sound", but "clear". Maybe there's hope for you after all.