BIOS ROM Size Limitations Almost Derail AMD's Zen2 Backwards Compatibility Promise

[Aerpoweron]

I would assume so evilhf. It was a beta bios, which was removed, right? A buddy of mine saw that as well for a B350 board from MSI.
Just checked the MSI website, the latest bios for this board is from January 23rd of 2019???

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X370-GAMING-PRO-CARBON#down-bios

Just got my 3700X, and now AMD has just gone mad. Reasonable price for such a CPU, and a totally capable cooler is included? I am just impressed
Even when Intel will catch up, i wonder when they will include a fitting cooler for the CPU? They did for the i7 980 six-core, and then it was even with a premium price.

Sorry guys for going off topic here, just couldn't help myself

 

[nemesis.ie]

Aorus Extreme X570 with a 128Mbit chip? That seems rather short-sighted.

@evilhf Yes, should be good to go with 1.0.0.1. I sure hope so as I am running that on my TCU and should be popping in the 3900X tomorrow.

 

[Aerpoweron]

@evilhv there is currently a beta bios available at the MSI website for your board

 

[biffzinker]

@GoldenX
MSI has a BIOS update posted for my B350 Gaming Pro so you might want to check again for your board.

 

[GoldenX]

@GoldenX
MSI has a BIOS update posted for my B350 Gaming Pro so you might want to check again for your board.
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Seems to be the same on the blog MSI posted, but now they properly report it.
Good to know they promise a next one with RAID support.

I kinda like the non-stupid lite UI, I might just update to get that.

 

[biffzinker]

The Hardware Monitor Interface is sure plain looking now.

 

[GoldenX]

Meh, the point and click fan curve was a pain, too imprecise.

 

[biffzinker]

I kinda like the non-stupid lite UI, I might just update to get that.

You too? I honestly prefer it this way.

Edit: Ran into this issue involving Task Manger unable to report reserved memory. Technically there is 16,384 MB installed I can see 16,336 MB through Performance Monitor which means there is RAM being reserved by the mobo firmware. Before the update it use to report 47.7 MB inaccessible.

 

[Uchchwas]

Is it effect on performance? Like overcloking?? I don't need rich user interface.
I planning to buy MSI b450 gaming pro carbon.
Should i buy this now?

 

[EarthDog]

Is it effect on performance? Like overcloking?? I don't need rich user interface.
I planning to buy MSI b450 gaming pro carbon.
Should i buy this now?

Nope.

 

[tony359]

just curious: "nope" to both questions?

 

[EarthDog]

Correct.

 

[Bitgod]

Had zero problems with my 3600 and B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC. In general, Ryzen 2 doesn't strike me as a CPU to OC anyway, too much hassle for little gain.

 

[grigo]

I am not sure how AGESA fits into BIOS, but my experience has been somewhat confusing. I have an Asus Prime X370-A board. I updated the BIOS before installing a 3900X. RAID BIOS didn't start. I panicked and tried to downgrade the BIOS as low as I could. But downgrading to the lowest version that supported 3900X didn't bring the RAID back. So, I put back the old 1800X and tried downgrading further. EZ Flasher wouldn't let me though. So after some serious searching I found an unofficial method to get even lower with the BIOS version. RAID BIOS got back. I was relieved. I started upgrading the BIOS back to see where RAID BIOS would stop loading. It never did. I got back up to the latest version and RAID was still there. I thought my problem was just that I skipped something like 5 BIOS versions when I did my first BIOS update to support the new CPU. But then I put back the 3900X and the RAID was gone again. That's when I realised that the problem only manifested when the new processor was put in. With the latest version still I put back the old processor, RAID was back. So as weird as it may seem, this is NOT a BIOS chip size limitation. It's with the memory allocated for the BIOS when it loads. If someone has a better explanation, I'm ready to hear it. But this looks more like the programming of the BIOS, not its size.
In the end I have to say I hate AMD RAID. I've had it for many years as a convenience and an additional data protection method but it's a real pain in the ass when you have to migrate it. And nobody seems to support it out of the box. I had a motherboard with 780G chipset before. I could not migrate the VD from the old RAID to the new RAID, although they are both AMD. I had to backup all the data, create the RAID, copy the data back. Same now.
I bought a separate PCIe SATA controller with a Marvell chip and moved my disks there for RAID. Didn't have to install anything, it just worked. With AMD RAID I had to figure out that I needed two drivers to make it work, installed in a specific order, otherwise even Windows 10 won't see the disks. No live linux distro would ever boot with AMD RAID, all panicked. In a way I am glad I was forced out of using it. I don't know why they never bothered to make drivers easily available for all OSes.