How do you feel about "Cloud Computing"?

[blobster21]

My personnal datas are hosted on my own nextcloud instance @ home.

But for work, i have to use Office 365, Onedrive and Teams because my organization is pro Microsoft.

Game streaming is not my cup of tea, neither is video/music streaming, apart from the casual youtube/bandcamp.

 

[Sasqui]

So many use cases!

I've found that having Google Drive installed on a windows platform is extremely useful for business related uses. Media files are just too large for entertainment uses.

I use Pandora a lot, even though I have over 300GB of personal music ripped from CD's. Movies are mostly on-demand, or I'll rent at redbox.

 

[kapone32]

Cloud "server where you don't know who looks at your data, much less who owns it". I am from the old school where everything is local. The only thing I like about anything cloud related is saving my game to the cloud in Steam so that when I do a new Windows build I can continue whatever campaign I am in.

 

[Sybaris_Caesar]

I like Cloud storage. I've got 50GB free Mega account. Not recommended now though.

Like Cloud saves as well.

Also prefer audio/video stream. Wonder why people voted against that. Anime, youtube, spotify, netflix and pornhub. What would I do without them. Can't see anyone downloading everything to watch/listen locally.

 

[Splinterdog]

I think lex should add "I use both local and cloud."
Personally, I use Google Drive, MS OneDrive and Dropbox, and use their free storage limits where I can, especially for online articles which use multiple images and I can take up where I left off on any PC.
I think most people understand the concept of syncing and that's the crucial aspect you always (or should have) a local copy of your files.
It's come in handy many times when an SD card has corrupted on a mobile phone, for example. At least you have a copy at hand.
In fact, OneDrive gave me an additional Samsung bonus of 100Gb for two years, which when added to the 30Gb I already had, amounted to a very generous amount. However, when it runs out, I'll make sure I have it updated locally.
I'm quite happy to stream Netflix, Prime and IPTV, if that's what's meant by streaming.
In retrospect, many of my customers don't know what I'm talking about when I suggest backing up to the cloud, even though it could have saved their bacon in certain cases.

 

[Bill_Bright]

I think most people understand the concept of syncing

I'm not sure about this. They may know what it is, but I don't believe most know how to do it. And even if they do know how, I bet most don't do it regularly any more than they make regular backups.

I think lex should add "I use both local and cloud."

At least go back and correct the spelling error!

 

[Splinterdog]

At least go back and correct the spelling error!

Care to elaborate?

 

[lexluthermiester]

At least go back and correct the spelling error!

I don't have an edit button for the text in the poll itself or I would. People know what's being said though.

 

[moproblems99]

I do not believe the cloud service providers will EVER be competent enough, or sincere enough to ensure my data is not hacked or compromised by badguys. Another big problem and reason I will not put my stuff there.

Beyond that, it is impossible for them to ensure your data will not be hacked or comprised. Code written by humans is breakable by humans. Though the far easier route is social engineering. Nothing is safe out side of your control (or in it in most circumstances) and never will be.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Care to elaborate?

viseo streaming

Beyond that, it is impossible for them to ensure your data will not be hacked or comprised. Code written by humans is breakable by humans.

Not really the point I was making.

First, most hackers and badguys are lazy opportunists. They look for easy pickings and if they cannot find any, they move on. With that in mind, BY FAR just about every major hack that ever happened was due to management and administrative negligence. Look at the Equifax hack. The software developers discovered the vulnerability, developed the necessary patch, and distributed it out to its customers several months before Equifax was hacked. Months! Not hours or days. But months! But the Equifax sysadmins never applied it! That's just negligence and poor or totally absent management oversight.

On top of that, all that very sensitive data on nearly 1/2 of all Americans that was compromised, to include social security numbers, birth dates, drivers license numbers, account numbers, credit scores, and more was stored on the Equifax servers in the clear! Not encrypted at all! That again is pure negligence.

The entire Equifax hack, as well as most other hacks, could have easily been prevented if only the people responsible for administrating and managing (and securing) that network had done their job.

News just today shows Equifax will get the largest fine ever but I seriously doubt it will cause others to straighten out. They probably figure that's what they have insurance for.

So my point about storing my data in the cloud is I simply don't trust the admins to do their jobs. And that is sad.

 

[moproblems99]

With that in mind, BY FAR just about every major hack that ever happened was due to management and administrative negligence.

I think you'll find that social engineering butts head for out of date software for primary vectors. That's what compromised RSA. A security company.

So my point about storing my data in the cloud is I simply don't trust the admins to do their jobs. And that is sad.

Don't disagree with your there.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Didn't know what to say.

Now I do, I was on the fence but how can anyone be ,I can't now imagine life without clouds.
It's been so damn hot today .


They run so many things I can't avoid it's now pointless trying ,like tracking you , even opted out your often all in ,anonymously of course lolz.

Email, steam , o365, so so many I can't afford to opt out of.

 

[R-T-B]

Privacy is one thing. Security it another. If you backup your computer, emails, and other sensitive data to the cloud, there could be account numbers, passwords, social security numbers, phone numbers and addresses in there too.

Privacy and security are like a venn diagram with many crossovers. Remember everything you just said falls under the realm of "private data" as well.

So my point about storing my data in the cloud is I simply don't trust the admins to do their jobs. And that is sad.

Basically this.

 

[Bill_Bright]

I think you'll find that social engineering butts head for out of date software for primary vectors.

No argument there. Tricking users into clicking on innocuous-looking, but malicious links is clearly the number one method bad guys use to "distribute" their malware.

I am just saying if admin have done their jobs and the software was updated on a timely basis or the vulnerability the malware was designed to exploit had already been patched with the already available patches, that malware has essentially been rendered harmless.

Remember everything you just said falls under the realm of "private data" as well.

Just because a car is a vehicle, that does not mean every vehicle is a car. There's a big difference between a Toyota Camry, an 18-wheeler, a 747 and the USS Washington.

Yes, the line between privacy and security is a grayish blur. But tracking my surfing habits violates my privacy. Hacking Equifax or First American Financial Corp (I bet many never even heard of this one) to steal my account numbers, street address, real name, passwords, the image of my drivers license threatens my security and even that of my family! Big difference. And it is a really big difference when both of those hacks could have easily been prevented - again if only those responsible did their jobs.

 

[R-T-B]

Yes, the line between privacy and security is a grayish blur. But tracking my surfing habits violates my privacy. Hacking Equifax or First American Financial Corp (I bet many never even heard of this one) to steal my account numbers, street address, real name, passwords, the image of my drivers license threatens my security and even that of my family! Big difference. And it is a really big difference when both of those hacks could have easily been prevented - again if only those responsible did their jobs.

That's why I used the Venn Diagram analogy. It works.

 

[John Naylor]

Having all your data "in / on the cloud" poses two issues:

-Loss of internet access ... how many people are you paying to sit and twiddle their thumbs ?
-Data Security - Everything we create is copyrighted ... hate too think of our designs / work products being sold off or stolen.

Ever been stuck in a house with (3) 16+ ytear olds and a wife w/ no access to internet, cell service or TV ? Make sure there's no firearms and if they are , they are securely locked up.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Having all your data "in / on the cloud" poses two issues:

-Loss of internet access ... how many people are you paying to sit and twiddle their thumbs ?
-Data Security - Everything we create is copyrighted ... hate too think of our designs / work products being sold off or stolen.

Ever been stuck in a house with (3) 16+ ytear olds and a wife w/ no access to internet, cell service or TV ? Make sure there's no firearms and if they are , they are securely locked up.

I just left my cousins , he put a spade through the cable wire so they are in that boat.
Cute and funny, him explaining they had electricity for his 10 year old daughters telly but no signal wire, she did not get how a telly can work but not have a signal.
I was going to offer to fix it until I saw where it's cut , should have taken a pic.
A guys coming tomorrow though so np.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I think lex should add "I use both local and cloud."

I would, but the edit button is not there. It's all good, that's why the "Other" option was included.

 

[trparky]

I use Microsoft OneDrive extensively, I keep data there that I absolutely cannot lose or it would be devastating for me to lose it. We're talking vacation photos, mostly. I also keep source code for many of my personal pet projects that I write in VB.NET in Microsoft OneDrive as well; obviously, I wouldn't want to lose my source code either. I also have several shared folders that are shared with other people in my family so as to allow for collaboration, any file put into those folders each of us will be able to see and modify.

 

[xtreemchaos]

kind pointless when we have all the kit at home, I mean I wouldn't buy a dog and bark myself

 

[sneekypeet]

Poll typo addressed.

As to the thread, please keep to the topic.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I use Microsoft OneDrive extensively, I keep data there that I absolutely cannot lose or it would be devastating for me to lose it. We're talking vacation photos, mostly. I also keep source code for many of my personal pet projects that I write in VB.NET in Microsoft OneDrive as well; obviously, I wouldn't want to lose my source code either. I also have several shared folders that are shared with other people in my family so as to allow for collaboration, any file put into those folders each of us will be able to see and modify.

Ah, but you could very easily use DVDR/BDR optical media or even external HDD/SSD options, making use of the cloud in your case a choice not a necessity.

 

[trparky]

Ah, but you could very easily use DVDR/BDR optical media or even external HDD/SSD options, making use of the cloud in your case a choice not a necessity.

What if I have some kind of disaster? Theft? Fire? Other natural disaster?

 

[lexluthermiester]

What if I have some kind of disaster? Theft? Fire? Other natural disaster?

Safe deposit box. I also have backups in my storage unit.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Safe deposit box

^^^This^^^

I keep a backup copy of all my important files (including my password manager and password database) on a HD and a couple thumb drives in a safe deposit box at my bank. And I keep the originals of other important documents too, like birth certificates, divorce documents, marriage license, DD Form 214, SSN cards, will, emergency cash, vehicle titles, deed to the house, "Final instructions" for my kids when I die, and more there too.

I have the next to the smallest box and it costs just $45 per year. That's a serious bargain, IMO. And note in some cases, that fee is tax deductible.

IMO, every adult should have a safe off-site storage location for such stuff just in case of some kind of disaster. And I can think of no better place than a safe deposit box at a bank or credit union.