ZOTAC GeForce RTX 2060 Super Mini

W1zzard · Aug 2, 2019

Zotac's GeForce RTX 2060 Super Mini is priced at $400, matching the NVIDIA Founders Edition. As the name suggests, it is a bit shorter than the FE, which should help improve compatibility with smaller cases. Unfortunately, the card isn't overclocked, and its power limit isn't increased either.

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Assimilator · Aug 2, 2019

You should've just put up a single page with no content except "Conclusion: why does this product even exist".

danbert2000 · Aug 2, 2019

I don't understand how the power efficiency is so much worse on this card than reference. By 10% on the Performance per Watt page. That seems like enough to not recommend the card, especially since the thing is totally power limit locked. Are these just marginal chips to use more energy for the same performance? Bad power delivery design? I would consider the loss of efficiency to be a pretty big con. Especially since "mini" cards are usually good for SFF cases, but in this instance, you're going to get more heat coming out than necessary.

EDIT: Just checked the power pages again, this stinker is worse per watt than a 1080. The 2060 Super in general is not the most efficient Turing, but this one is especially bad. Worse efficiency and similar/worse performance than last gen's top chip, before the 1080 Ti came around. Looks like Nvidia really does need a node change soon.

bug · Aug 2, 2019

danbert2000 said:
I don't understand how the power efficiency is so much worse on this card than reference. By 10% on the Performance per Watt page. That seems like enough to not recommend the card, especially since the thing is totally power limit locked. Are these just marginal chips to use more energy for the same performance? Bad power delivery design? I would consider the loss of efficiency to be a pretty big con. Especially since "mini" cards are usually good for SFF cases, but in this instance, you're going to get more heat coming out than necessary.

EDIT: Just checked the power pages again, this stinker is worse per watt than a 1080. The 2060 Super in general is not the most efficient Turing, but this one is especially bad. Worse efficiency and similar/worse performance than last gen's top chip, before the 1080 Ti came around. Looks like Nvidia really does need a node change soon.

Yeah, I noticed the same thing: same performance as FE, higher power draw. Yet max TDP is lower than FE. How on Earth does one manage that?

Fluffmeister · Aug 2, 2019

It's like that famous R9 Nano that AMD didn't let anyone review, same money... still $650.

Darksword · Aug 3, 2019

It's not everyday that a custom card is worse than a reference card.

Well done, Zotac.

Tsukiyomi91 · Aug 3, 2019

this card has some anomalies... especially the power consumption side of things...

ShurikN · Aug 3, 2019

Darksword said:
It's not everyday that a custom card is worse than a reference card.

Well done, Zotac.

Yet it still got recommended...

tvamos · Aug 3, 2019

ShurikN said:
Yet it still got recommended...

Quite common for nvidia cards to get recommended.

W1zzard · Aug 3, 2019

ShurikN said:
Yet it still got recommended...

Just because FE is better doesn't mean the Zotac is a bad card

bug · Aug 3, 2019

W1zzard said:
Just because FE is better doesn't mean the Zotac is a bad card

This discussion keeps coming back. Can we get a list of things that would make a card "not recommended" on TPU. Please, pretty please with sugar on top

W1zzard · Aug 3, 2019

bug said:
This discussion keeps coming back. Can we get a list of things that would make a card "not recommended" on TPU. Please, pretty please with sugar on top

Look at Navi reference reviews

There is no predetermined list, would be impossible and cherry picking, it's a general feel based on having reviewed over 500 graphics cards

lexluthermiester · Aug 4, 2019

Darksword said:
It's not everyday that a custom card is worse than a reference card.

Well done, Zotac.

Did you actually read the review? W1z may have levied some complaints, but this Zotac performed better than the FE on every level but noise. Let's remember, this is a custom card designed for smaller systems. In that capacity and context it delivers well, thus the recommendation. Of course whiny nitpickers are going to whine and nitpick..

B-Real · Aug 4, 2019

What I don't understand is the performance/dollar chart. How is the RTX 2060 better than the RX 5700 by 16% when they cost the same but the RX 5700 performs better? This chart is just wrong in terms of the position of the RTX 2060.

lexluthermiester said:
Did you actually read the review? W1z may have levied some complaints, but this Zotac performed better than the FE on every level but noise. Let's remember, this is a custom card designed for smaller systems. In that capacity and context it delivers well, thus the recommendation. Of course whiny nitpickers are going to whine and nitpick..

What do you mean by "performed better than the FE on every level but noise."? Because this wasn't faster by even 1% and it drew more power.

ShurikN · Aug 4, 2019

B-Real said:
What I don't understand is the performance/dollar chart. How is the RTX 2060 better than the RX 5700 by 16% when they cost the same but the RX 5700 performs better? This chart is just wrong in terms of the position of the RTX 2060.

Nice find man, sharp eyes.
It should look like this:

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