24 inch 4k monitor?

[Carsomyr]

Is there such a thing as a badass 4k G-sync monitor with a 24 inch screen size?

Or 25*

 

[Space Lynx]

Is there such a thing as a badass 4k G-sync monitor with a 24 inch screen size?

Or 25*

yes, but don't do it. 32" is the best size for 4k. 27" maybe. I have had a 24" 4k before a long time ago... I tried to get used to it, but it was just too tiny. the whole point of 4k is to get more real estate screen wise.

if you must have one, Dell makes it.

 

[Valantar]

What's the use case for the monitor? Gaming? If so: 4k at that size is utter and complete overkill and will do nothing for you except lower your performance. 4k gaming in general is a bad idea unless your budget is completely unlimited (and even then, really). 1440p at 24" is plenty in terms of pixel density for that size at normal viewing distances. Heck, even 1080p is perfectly acceptable at those sizes, and would give a lot of room for high refresh rate panels, which improves the gaming experience far more than increased resolution.


If it's not for gaming but rather content creation, web surfing, content consumption, etc.: 4k can make some minor sense, but it depends on your eyesight and specific applications in use.

 

[Vayra86]

Even if there is it screams avoid, unless you are one of those people that are convinced they get lower eye strain from over the top PPI.

Even if you like high PPI screens, I've had a Dell U2515something and that was a pretty nice diagonal for 1440p. 4K is bonkers at that diagonal really. Above 130 PPI can be considered 'very high' for normal monitor viewing, and a 32 inch 4K already has that - 24 inch 4K is 185 PPI.

 

[Carsomyr]

I remember owning both a 27 incur 1440p monitor and then a 24inch 1440p monitor and I MUCH preferred the 24 inch

I'm definitely one of those guys like higher pixel density than too big screens...

Especially considering my desk isn't very deep and causes me to be seated rather close to my monitor

To answer your previous remark:

1. Budget is not an issue
2. I've got plenty of power to drive 4k resolution
3. I'm a perfectionist and don't see 4k as a problem when it comes to making things small... UIs can be increased in size
Same for text in windows 10

I'm looking for suggestions as to which is the best 24-25 inch g-sync 120hz+ 4k monitor money can buy

 

[TheLostSwede]

AFAIK, there's no G-Sync option in that size.
Here are all the 24-inch 4K screen that I can find. Some might have FreeSync support at best.
Acer CB241HYK bmjdprx
Dell UP2414Q
Dell P2415Q
AG neovo QX-24
HP Z display Z24s
Samsung U24E590 (if still available)
LG UltraFine 4K Display with Thunderbolt 3
LG 24UD58-B (FreeSync)
ViewSonic VX2475SMHL-4K
NEC MultiSync EA244UHD

Looking here, there's not a single 4K screen under 27-inches that supports G-Sync in any kind or form.

NVIDIA GeForce G-SYNC Gaming Monitors

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[killster1]

I cant find anything in that size range to report, i looked for a while too. Is a new desk a option? or wallmounting? i would get a oled 4K@120hz hdmi 2.1. Since its G-sync i assume its for gaming at least part of the time. Sorry i hate it when people suggest things i didnt ask for.

 

[cucker tarlson]

there was on 4k freesync 24" from asus,it should be g-sync compatible
it's still 60hz though

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if I could have 4k 120hz 24" and have the power to drive it I'd do it,but for now it's not worth it.

 

[Vayra86]

I remember owning both a 27 incur 1440p monitor and then a 24inch 1440p monitor and I MUCH preferred the 24 inch

I'm definitely one of those guys like higher pixel density than too big screens...

Especially considering my desk isn't very deep and causes me to be seated rather close to my monitor

To answer your previous remark:

1. Budget is not an issue
2. I've got plenty of power to drive 4k resolution
3. I'm a perfectionist and don't see 4k as a problem when it comes to making things small... UIs can be increased in size
Same for text in windows 10

I'm looking for suggestions as to which is the best 24-25 inch g-sync 120hz+ 4k monitor money can buy

I'd move the goal post a bit to 27 inch 4K at the very least. But fair enough and to each his own, absolutely. But a panel is much much more than resolution, do keep that in mind, and its also more than G Sync, which should be an afterthought if you ask me.

Focus on panel tech, G2G response curve and color accuracy before staring at only Gsync panels. Just to get an idea of what's available in the market and how it relates to price and quality.

Another one, since you like high refresh and say you can drive it, I'd definitely look into sufficient luminance (350cd/m2 minimum) and a monitor with Lightboost (which comes with Gsync but is not implemented equally well everywhere) or another native form of strobing / Black frame insertion. It massively improves gaming & moving image quality by eliminating motion blur.

If most of your gaming is at or above 100hz, you will probably be using Lightboost more than variable sync (its mutually exclusive within Gsync, except on a very select range of recent monitors apparently, which I have yet to see in action).

If you really want to go wild, there is this. FALD, 4K, IPS, 144hz and can probably get a decent shot at approaching HDR10 which it supports. (Not perfect but for monitors, rather good).

You also gain PPI over a 24 inch 1440p panel.

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[Valantar]

According to Nvidia's site there are no 23.8"/24"/24.5"/25" 2160p G-Sync monitors. The highest resolution below 27" is 1440p. On the other hand there are two 27" 2160p G-Sync Ultimate monitors, if top-of-the-line is what you're after.

 

[cucker tarlson]

I'd move the goal post a bit to 27 inch 4K at the very least. But fair enough and to each his own, absolutely.

24 1440p looks crisp but there's still plenty of aliasing even with aa.

 

[Vayra86]

24 1440p looks crisp but there's still plenty of aliasing even with aa.

And plenty of neck cramps if you care to look for it

 

[Carsomyr]

I double checked and you guys are correct, there aren't any 4k 24 inch monitors with g-sync...
so in the 27 inch g-sync 4k monitor choices, I understand there are only 2 correct? I found the asus one, what's the other?

do they have more than 60hz refresh rate?

 

[TheLostSwede]

I double checked and you guys are correct, there aren't any 4k 24 inch monitors with g-sync...
so in the 27 inch g-sync 4k monitor choices, I understand there are only 2 correct? I found the asus one, what's the other?

do they have more than 60hz refresh rate?

There are three, starting at US$999.99...
The list over at Nvidia's website is sortable...

 

[Valantar]

I double checked and you guys are correct, there aren't any 4k 24 inch monitors with g-sync...
so in the 27 inch g-sync 4k monitor choices, I understand there are only 2 correct? I found the asus one, what's the other?

do they have more than 60hz refresh rate?

According to Nvidia there are six; two of them are G-Sync Ultimate, with the other 4 being the "regular" kind. Go to the link in my previous post and filter by size (27") and resolution (3840x2160(4k)) and you'll see them. Three Acers (X27 (GSU), XB273KP and XB271HK), one AOC (AG271UG) and two Asus (PG27UQ (GSU) and PG27AQ). The GSU monitors as well as the Acer XB273KP are 144Hz displays, the other three are 60Hz.

 

[John Naylor]

Is there such a thing as a badass 4k G-sync monitor with a 24 inch screen size?

Or 25*

Generally you pick the size to match the resolution. Most folks (the folks w/ 20/20 vision) will start to be able to discern individual pixels below 96 dpi,

1080p was mostly associated with 23.6" (93.34 ppi) and 24" (91.79") monitors
1440p was mostly associated with 27" (108.79)
2160p is most;ly associated with 27" ( 150.44) , 30" (135.4), 32" (126.93) and even 36" (112.83) model.

The issue with 4k is we don't really have the technology in place as yet. Sure 144 hz monitos exist @ v4k beut even the top cards srtrugg;le to drive it where you want it to be. They can't quite do motion bur reduction technology at 120 Hz and even the cables are running out of bandwidth at this point. And the 144 hz 2160p panels thet require a $1800 aren't drawing much interest with the expectation that the next generation of cards and panels will "hit the spot".

At this point in time, I view the AuOptonics 10 bit IPS 165 Hz Panels as the best all around gaming experience available, Acer XB271HU and Asus PG279Q used these panels but references now showing that Asus has switched to an 8 bit panel. I expect next gen we'll be able to do at 2160p what these models do at 1440p.... expect to ay $3k for the monitor and card(s) to drive it.

 

[Valantar]

Generally you pick the size to match the resolution. Most folks (the folks w/ 20/20 vision) will start to be able to discern individual pixels below 96 dpi,

1080p was mostly associated with 23.6" (93.34 ppi) and 24" (91.79") monitors
1440p was mostly associated with 27" (108.79)
2160p is most;ly associated with 27" ( 150.44) , 30" (135.4), 32" (126.93) and even 36" (112.83) model.

The issue with 4k is we don't really have the technology in place as yet. Sure 144 hz monitos exist @ v4k beut even the top cards srtrugg;le to drive it where you want it to be. They can't quite do motion bur reduction technology at 120 Hz and even the cables are running out of bandwidth at this point. And the 144 hz 2160p panels thet require a $1800 aren't drawing much interest with the expectation that the next generation of cards and panels will "hit the spot".

At this point in time, I view the AuOptonics 10 bit IPS 165 Hz Panels as the best all around gaming experience available, Acer XB271HU and Asus PG279Q used these panels but references now showing that Asus has switched to an 8 bit panel. I expect next gen we'll be able to do at 2160p what these models do at 1440p.... expect to ay $3k for the monitor and card(s) to drive it.

I'd argue that even with next-gen GPUs, 4k gaming is rather silly even disregarding the technical issues with implementing it properly. After all, with any kind of motion at normal display sizes and viewing distances, there's barely any perceptible difference in sharpness between 1440p and 2160p, and all the while you get a 2,25x increase in rendering load. How anyone can think that is worth it is beyond me. I agree that high DPI makes sense for text rendering and other applications where sharpness is important, but unless your games are exclusively 30fps strategy titles, a 1440p display is far better.

 

[las]

27 inch is bare minimum for 4K/UHD if you ask me... 20/20 vision..
32 inch is much better tho.

You will be forced to use massive scaling on a 24 inch outside of games.

 

[Valantar]

27 inch is bare minimum for 4K/UHD if you ask me... 20/20 vision..
32 inch is much better tho.

You will be forced to use massive scaling on a 24 inch outside of games.

That's the thing, though - outside of games, 2160p on a 24" monitor might make some sense. Text rendering should be visibly sharper, as well as small UI elements (as long as the apps scale correctly). Photo editing and video work would be noticeably better too. Even at 200% scaling it ought to be noticeably better than a 1080p monitor. On the other hand, 4k gaming regardless of display size is rather silly.

 

[Kapone33]

4K at 24" would be too small to make out text details on the desktop. 32" is the absolute smallest you should go for 4K. It has the same pixel density as a 27" 1440P monitor. If you are getting a monitor for strictly gaming a 27" 1440P IPS or apparently VA 120HZ Freesync screen would scratch your itch much better than what you are looking for.

 

[TheLostSwede]

4K at 24" would be too small to make out text details on the desktop. 32" is the absolute smallest you should go for 4K. It has the same pixel density as a 27" 1440P monitor. If you are getting a monitor for strictly gaming a 27" 1440P IPS or apparently VA 120HZ Freesync screen would scratch your itch much better than what you are looking for.

I think you should go see an optician, but hey, that's just my opinion, just like it's yours than 32" is required for 4K...

 

[Valantar]

I think you should go see an optician, but hey, that's just my opinion, just like it's yours than 32" is required for 4K...

Yeah, I mean if you refuse to use scaling than I guess it would be a challenge from normal viewing distances (though definitely still possible), but you don't buy a high DPI monitor and refuse to use scaling...