PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT Red Devil

[W1zzard]

The PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT Red Devil is overclocked out of the box and uses a massive triple-slot, triple-fan cooler that delivers outstanding noise levels. It's actually the quietest Radeon card we ever tested, and quieter than all NVIDIA RTX cards except for one custom-design.

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[las]

OC headroom is simply non-existing on 5700 series it seems. I had hoped custom cards would allow for 10-20% perf boost but no... I guess the chip was not really hold back by the reference blower cooler.

Well, atleast you don't need hearing protection.

 

[Ferrum Master]

What we are actually seeing, AMD does max out their silicon to the max.

And yes, it works fine~ same with crap cooling...

Navi has some console oriented qualities in their blood for real, that we do not appreciate really.

 

[Jism]

What we are actually seeing, AMD does max out their silicon to the max.

They've bin doing that since the first gen of Ryzen. Thanks to advanced chip monitoring (i.e the multiple sensors responsible for the GPU Hotspot) they always seem to find the highest possible boost state of the chip while maintaining silicon fitness.

The days of 10% to 20% OC's are gone. You want premium you pay premium.

 

[sutyi]

OC headroom is simply non-existing on 5700 series it seems. I had hoped custom cards would allow for 10-20% perf boost but no... I guess the chip was not really hold back by the reference blower cooler.

Well, atleast you don't need hearing protection.

These days are long gone. The best you can manage (if at all) is a sub <10% perf increase. nVIDIA and RTG are power and/or voltage limiting every GPU that is not the highest end SKU available.

Last nVIDIA series that had some decent OC headroom was Kepler. Maxwell OC performance uplift was around the 10% mark and ever since Pascal it has been in the single digits.

Their boost algorythms already do 95-98% of the OC, the rest is basically on you giving it a higher power and temperature limit, so these GPUs boost higher.

 

[jabbadap]

What we are actually seeing, AMD does max out their silicon to the max.

And yes, it works fine~ same with crap cooling...

Navi has some console oriented qualities in their blood for real, that we do not appreciate really.

Well it maxed out what they think is safe to silicon. Chips can go higher, if all the limiters are removed. But that would potentially increase RMA rates in a long run, so I think they are not willing to ease those limits. Well maybe they will tweak that gddr6 slider a bit, but the rest is left to OC community to solve.

 

[r.h.p]

actually the temp decrease in the card or cards is what I find the most impressive. This new Navi range are kicking my Vega 64 to the curb pal s … lol
Yet im wondering if 20 FPS is worth the upgrade because all the things I do my Vega > on fire is still ok hehe

 

[las]

These days are long gone. The best you can manage (if at all) is a sub <10% perf increase. nVIDIA and RTG are power and/or voltage limiting every GPU that is not the highest end SKU available.

Last nVIDIA series that had some decent OC headroom was Kepler. Maxwell OC performance uplift was around the 10% mark and ever since Pascal it has been in the single digits.

Their boost algorythms already do 95-98% of the OC, the rest is basically on you giving it a higher power and temperature limit, so these GPUs boost higher.

Maxwell overclocked well. My Gigabyte 980 Ti G1 gained like 40% performance compared to reference. Running at 1520/2000.

Custom 980 Ti cards performed ~20% better out of the box, compared to ref.
970 and 980 overclocked very well too. 20% headroom or so.

980 Ti was/is probably the best GPU for OC ever made. Nvidia clocked them too low on ref. Limited by blower cooler.

My current 1080 Ti does around 2000-2050 ingame, decent perf uplift.
Simply max out powerlimit and temp target, even without raising gpu clock, performance will increase.

 

[Octopuss]

This might very well be the card I want in my life. I'm not even sure if I will step away from 1080p, so I don't even need high end performance, but what I do need is silence.

 

[Deleted member 158293]

Well it seems PowerColor managed to use their big & long 3 slot cooler effectively. Kinda pricey and fin stack direction not my favourite.

Still short listed along with the Pulse. Really like Sapphire replaceable fans though...

 

[Dave65]

Looks great IMO!

 

[ZeroFM]

Maxwell overclocked well. My Gigabyte 980 Ti G1 gained like 40% performance compared to reference. Running at 1520/2000.

Custom 980 Ti cards performed ~20% better out of the box, compared to ref.
970 and 980 overclocked very well too. 20% headroom or so.

980 Ti was/is probably the best GPU for OC ever made. Nvidia clocked them too low on ref. Limited by blower cooler.

My current 1080 Ti does around 2000-2050 ingame, decent perf uplift.
Simply max out powerlimit and temp target, even without raising gpu clock, performance will increase.

Yap oc days is GONE . 980ti oc gain 30%+ , 1080ti oc is only ~10% . 2080ti 11% , 2080/70/60 under 10% ...

 

[dj-electric]

If you really insist, you can imagine you get your hardware with far worse clock optimizations like in the past, so you could overclock it yourself to gain more performance.

 

[HTC]

Has anyone tried this card (or any other 5700XT AIB card) with those soft power play tables yet?

How does it fair VS reference?

 

[3125b]

To gain a satisfactory amount of performance every generation, the manufacturers needed to optimize their chips better, now we are pretty much at the end of that.

Powercolor did a good job here, very good cooler, take note Asus.

 

[B-Real]

Will there be a cheaper Powercolor model? As Powercolor said a $400 price tag, while the non-mousepad version of this costs $440. Anyway, the cards looks cool and great.

 

[Sybaris_Caesar]

Will there be a cheaper Powercolor model? As Powercolor said a $400 price tag, while the non-mousepad version of this costs $440. Anyway, the cards looks cool and great.

2 fan Red Dragon has been spotted. Looks like MSI Evoke/Sapphire past Nitro brick.

Seriously I'm not hating on brick coolers but if I ever buy a case with those vertical gpu brackets, MSI's lambo looking Gaming X/Z would be at the top of my list. Not their trio though. The only 3 fan cooler I like is EVGA's 1080 ti FTW3. Sad that nobody else seems to copy it.

 

[demian_vi]

Will there be a cheaper Powercolor model? As Powercolor said a $400 price tag, while the non-mousepad version of this costs $440. Anyway, the cards looks cool and great.

Powercolor released info on Red Dragon and a regular model today

PowerColor launches full line up for the RX 5700 (XT)

Powercolor announced a full line up for the RX 5700 series, from top to bottom. The PowerColor RX 5700 XT Red Devil comes at 439$ / 459€ with a limited edition for 10$ more at 449$ / 449&a...

www.guru3d.com

 

[Footman]

Interesting stuff. I have seen wildly fluctuating clocks on my reference 5700XT from 1200-2050mhz during BFV. This is with the fans at 100% as I wanted to avoid throttling. Temps at load were around 70C, so I am hoping that throttling is not the issue here. I have plans to watercool.

Question: Does anyone know if AMD partners will be releasing a version of the 5700XT based on reference pcb with custom heat sinks? If so who?

Thanks,

 

[Mistral]

Bloody solid cooler, but I think I like the Assus pcb a bit better. Not that we know the price on that one yet...

 

[John Naylor]

OC headroom is simply non-existing on 5700 series it seems. I had hoped custom cards would allow for 10-20% perf boost but no... I guess the chip was not really hold back by the reference blower cooler.

Well, atleast you don't need hearing protection.

PC is the 1st one to almost match the MSI 2070 Z with respect to noise.... just 1 dbA short which is very commendable.

The headroom thing has been AMDs "modus operandi" since the 290x ... they very aggressivly clock their cards "in the box" ... however that does result in a somewhat higher return rate as some silicon won't be able to hit the mark,

https://tpucdn.com/review/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-xt-red-devil/images/relative-performance_2560-1440.png

It has a 100% to 96% lead of the reference 2070.

https://tpucdn.com/review/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-xt-red-devil/images/overclocked-performance.png

100% x (117.0 / 115.3) = 101.47

https://tpucdn.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-2070-gaming-z/images/overclocked-performance.png

96% x (144.5 / 128.3) = 108.12

108.12 / 101.47 = 6.6% performance advantage advantage

MSI 2070 Performance / Price Ratio= 100 x 108.12 / $459.99 = 23.50
PowerColor 5700 XT Performance / Price Ratio= 100 x 101.47 / $449.99 = 22.55

Would appear that PC has a competitive alternative here with the 5700 XT ... but I thing $450 is a bit too much. i can see the card taking sales away from nVidia options at about $429.99

 

[illli]

Looks good, but their warranty sucks and I've read nothing but complaints about their awful warranty/RMA service. Its the same reason I'll never buy a zotac card

 

[danbert2000]

At this point it's pretty clear there is no real performance difference between any of the 5700 XTs. This might explain why AMD put out such a crappy blower fan on their reference model. If the board partners can't distinguish themselves with factory overclocks, they need something else. So it's all about coolers, temperature, and noise levels.

I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing. The headache of multiple chip revisions per product in the first RTX card releases meant that you could end up buying a card that had a subpar chip that boosted less than normal. At least if you get a Navi card you can be assured that you're getting the same level of performance as everyone else. Of course people that enjoy tweaking their hardware for performance are going to be upset, but that's not really going to affect the majority of users anyway.

 

[Deleted member 158293]

With so little variances & leftover headroom, AMD's chip design & binning look really, really impressive.

 

[Dwarden]

i really like those new reviews of 5700 XT AIB cards
yet there is one small complaint i have
it's about the `Temperatures & Fan Noise`

it's missing information about the ambient temperatures (room , case)
please put it there and also such information shall be in in the 'test setup' page

imho that bit would be very helpful