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It might be a bit trolling in addition to the marketing mumbo-jumbo.I'd like to know what intel considers "real world" or is this just some more intel trolling AMD again?
It might be a bit trolling in addition to the marketing mumbo-jumbo.I'd like to know what intel considers "real world" or is this just some more intel trolling AMD again?
System Name | Sillicon Nightmares |
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Processor | Intel i7 9700KF 5ghz (5.1ghz 4 core load, no avx offset), 4.7ghz ring, 1.412vcore 1.3vcio 1.264vcsa |
Motherboard | Asus Z390 Strix F |
Cooling | DEEPCOOL Gamer Storm CAPTAIN 360 |
Memory | 2x8GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB (B-Die) 3600 14-14-14-28 1t, tRFC 220 tREFI 65535, tFAW 16, 1.545vddq |
Video Card(s) | ASUS GTX 1060 Strix 6GB XOC, Core: 2202-2240, Vcore: 1.075v, Mem: 9818mhz (Sillicon Lottery Jackpot) |
Storage | Samsung 840 EVO 1TB SSD, WD Blue 1TB, Seagate 3TB, Samsung 970 Evo Plus 512GB |
Display(s) | BenQ XL2430 1080p 144HZ + (2) Samsung SyncMaster 913v 1280x1024 75HZ + A Shitty TV For Movies |
Case | Deepcool Genome ROG Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Bunta Sniff Speakers From The Tip Edition With Extra Kenwoods |
Power Supply | Corsair AX860i/Cable Mod Cables |
Mouse | Logitech G602 Spilled Beer Edition |
Keyboard | Dell KB4021 |
Software | Windows 10 x64 |
Benchmark Scores | 13543 Firestrike (3dmark.com/fs/22336777) 601 points CPU-Z ST 37.4ns AIDA Memory |
sorry but gunna have to call you out on this one, legit every benchathon intel wins, every hof entry in the top 3 is intel nv and the only place ive seen amd cpus win hands down is legit cinebenchOh man you have no idea. When I red the first paragraph I literally fell of the chairWhat a ruse, Intel just can't stomach the fact that AMD products are just as good as theirs or even better. Real world benchmark from Intel. I see Intel likes to mess around with catchy frases and cheep tricks
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Processor | Ryzen 9 5900X |
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Motherboard | MSI B450 Tomahawk ATX |
Cooling | Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition |
Memory | VENGEANCE LPX 2 x 16GB DDR4-3600 C18 OCed 3800 |
Video Card(s) | XFX Speedster SWFT309 AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT CORE Gaming |
Storage | 970 EVO NVMe M.2 500 GB, 870 QVO 1 TB |
Display(s) | Samsung 28” 4K monitor |
Case | Phantek Eclipse P400S (PH-EC416PS) |
Audio Device(s) | EVGA NU Audio |
Power Supply | EVGA 850 BQ |
Mouse | SteelSeries Rival 310 |
Keyboard | Logitech G G413 Silver |
Software | Windows 10 Professional 64-bit v22H2 |
If you say sosorry but gunna have to call you out on this one, legit every benchathon intel wins, every hof entry in the top 3 is intel nv and the only place ive seen amd cpus win hands down is legit cinebench
System Name | Virtual Reality / Bioinformatics |
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Processor | Undead CPU |
Motherboard | Undead TUF X99 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 |
Memory | GSkill 128GB DDR4-3000 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra |
Storage | Samsung 960 Pro 1TB + 860 EVO 2TB + WD Black 5TB |
Display(s) | 32'' 4K Dell |
Case | Fractal Design R5 |
Audio Device(s) | BOSE 2.0 |
Power Supply | Seasonic 850watt |
Mouse | Logitech Master MX |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 Cherry MX Blue |
VR HMD | HTC Vive + Oculus Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 10 P |
Processor | AMD Threadripper 3690x |
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Motherboard | MSI TRX40 Pro 10G |
Cooling | Custom Water |
Memory | 32GB (2x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Turbo OC |
Storage | 2x 1TB Intel 970 Pro NVM |
Display(s) | Dell U2415m x2 |
Case | Fractal Define XL R2 |
Audio Device(s) | Sound Blaster Hyper X G6 |
Power Supply | 800 Watt Fractal Design Newton R3 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 |
Keyboard | Cherry MX-3.0 - Black Keys |
Software | Win 10 Edu |
With all my love for AMD CPU, especially their Threadripper lines, I kinda agree with Intel on this one.
Been doing quite a lot of R&D on the lab TR platform. I must say although AMD is providing top notch hardware per dollar, their software support leaves a lot to be desired. It takes software and hardware support to make a good ecosystem.
This is just for professional use. I have yet to move to TR for gaming so I cannot say regarding the gaming part.
You mean since none of the software devs bother to optimize for more than Intel?
Well that may be changing soon, but to blame AMD for that is an interesting approach![]()
System Name | Virtual Reality / Bioinformatics |
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Processor | Undead CPU |
Motherboard | Undead TUF X99 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 |
Memory | GSkill 128GB DDR4-3000 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra |
Storage | Samsung 960 Pro 1TB + 860 EVO 2TB + WD Black 5TB |
Display(s) | 32'' 4K Dell |
Case | Fractal Design R5 |
Audio Device(s) | BOSE 2.0 |
Power Supply | Seasonic 850watt |
Mouse | Logitech Master MX |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 Cherry MX Blue |
VR HMD | HTC Vive + Oculus Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 10 P |
System Name | Budget Box |
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Processor | Xeon E5-2667v2 |
Motherboard | ASUS P9X79 Pro |
Cooling | Some cheap tower cooler, I dunno |
Memory | 32GB 1866-DDR3 ECC |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX 5600XT |
Storage | WD NVME 1GB |
Display(s) | ASUS Pro Art 27" |
Case | Antec P7 Neo |
With all my love for AMD CPU, especially their Threadripper lines, I kinda agree with Intel on this one.
Been doing quite a lot of R&D on the lab TR platform. I must say although AMD is providing top notch hardware per dollar, their software support leaves a lot to be desired. It takes software and hardware support to make a good ecosystem.
This is just for professional use. I have yet to move to TR for gaming so I cannot say regarding the gaming part.
Who would you like him to fault?
Intel? - are we going to fault them for having the dominant position in the market?
Developers? - of course they are going to optimize for Intel over AMD. Again, this is where market share comes in.
Also he is taking about support directly from Intel and AMD not just developers. Intel has a much bigger support system for their clients than AMD does. I rember seeing posts on the interwebs when the first Epyc CPU's were launched talking about how major corporations were looking to buy AMD, but decided against it because AMD either didn't have the ability to or didn't want to let the customers get time with engineers and or architects.
I’m not sure if this is still true, but I know in the past, Intel compilers had much to do with this performance optimization. In the same manner, nvidia works with developers to optimize their titles for performance. Intel and nvidia dictate the standards, essentially. AMD seems to take the “open” route, like with OpenCL and AMD64 support, and they partner through custom silicon designs. AMD needs a raw performance advantage because they don’t dictate standards or optimize software like the competition. Not saying that is a good thing, but it seems like the different approaches get us these results.
System Name | Virtual Reality / Bioinformatics |
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Processor | Undead CPU |
Motherboard | Undead TUF X99 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 |
Memory | GSkill 128GB DDR4-3000 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra |
Storage | Samsung 960 Pro 1TB + 860 EVO 2TB + WD Black 5TB |
Display(s) | 32'' 4K Dell |
Case | Fractal Design R5 |
Audio Device(s) | BOSE 2.0 |
Power Supply | Seasonic 850watt |
Mouse | Logitech Master MX |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 Cherry MX Blue |
VR HMD | HTC Vive + Oculus Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 10 P |
System Name | The beast and the little runt. |
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Processor | Ryzen 5 5600X - Ryzen 9 5950X |
Motherboard | ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING - ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero X570 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4a - NH-D15 chromax.black with IPPC Industrial 3000 RPM 120/140 MM fans. |
Memory | G.SKILL TRIDENT Z ROYAL GOLD/SILVER 32 GB (2 x 16 GB and 4 x 8 GB) 3600 MHz CL14-15-15-35 1.45 volts |
Video Card(s) | GIGABYTE RTX 4060 OC LOW PROFILE - GIGABYTE RTX 4090 GAMING OC |
Storage | Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB + 2 TB - Samsung 870 EVO 4 TB - 2 x WD RED PRO 16 GB + WD ULTRASTAR 22 TB |
Display(s) | Asus 27" TUF VG27AQL1A and a Dell 24" for dual setup |
Case | Phanteks Enthoo 719/LUXE 2 BLACK |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard on both boards |
Power Supply | Phanteks Revolt X 1200W |
Mouse | Logitech G903 Lightspeed Wireless Gaming Mouse |
Keyboard | Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum |
Software | WINDOWS 10 PRO 64 BITS on both systems |
Benchmark Scores | Se more about my 2 in 1 system here: kortlink.dk/2ca4x |
Intel's cpu overprice is a choice they are making NOT forced on by the 14+++++++++ node
I think this is quite unprofessional from their part. Sure, they have issues, but press like this makes them look even worse. Why do you need to say your product is better if it is indeed better?
Shut up and take my intel money...while i spend my real money on a Ryzen 9 3950X. In your face intel
So what do i want. Hmm 8 Intels cores or 12 AMD cores for the same price or how about 16 Intels cores for about twice as much money for what an 3950X will cost.
Thanks but no thanks intel. Intel might win in most games but not by that much and besides that AMD wins in almost every thing else. All from price to performance and raw power to power consuption. Just see with Intels comet lake with up to 125 watt for just base clock and amd 16 cores is just 105 watt with 6 core more.
I can easy live with losing 1-15 % gaming performance over to get twice the cores over I9 9900K for not so much more money and to half the price of I9 9960X. 3950X is really the best all around CPU for those that want a gaming CPU that still pack a punch in workstation and converting load. So 3950X is my CPU of choise. Intel can keep there 14 NM+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ or how many they are up to now
This one goes to intel: This Is So Sad Alexa Play Despacito
System Name | Personal \\ Work - HP EliteBook 840 G6 |
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Processor | 7700X \\ i7-8565U |
Motherboard | Asrock X670E PG Lightning |
Cooling | Noctua DH-15 |
Memory | G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Black 32GB 6000MHz CL36 \\ 16GB DDR4-2400 |
Video Card(s) | ASUS RoG Strix 1070 Ti \\ Intel UHD Graphics 620 |
Storage | 2x KC3000 2TB, Samsung 970 EVO 512GB \\ OEM 256GB NVMe SSD |
Display(s) | BenQ XL2411Z \\ FullHD + 2x HP Z24i external screens via docking station |
Case | Fractal Design Define Arc Midi R2 with window |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek ALC1150 with Logitech Z533 |
Power Supply | Corsair AX860i |
Mouse | Logitech G502 |
Keyboard | Corsair K55 RGB PRO |
Software | Windows 11 \\ Windows 10 |
System Name | The beast and the little runt. |
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Processor | Ryzen 5 5600X - Ryzen 9 5950X |
Motherboard | ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING - ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero X570 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4a - NH-D15 chromax.black with IPPC Industrial 3000 RPM 120/140 MM fans. |
Memory | G.SKILL TRIDENT Z ROYAL GOLD/SILVER 32 GB (2 x 16 GB and 4 x 8 GB) 3600 MHz CL14-15-15-35 1.45 volts |
Video Card(s) | GIGABYTE RTX 4060 OC LOW PROFILE - GIGABYTE RTX 4090 GAMING OC |
Storage | Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB + 2 TB - Samsung 870 EVO 4 TB - 2 x WD RED PRO 16 GB + WD ULTRASTAR 22 TB |
Display(s) | Asus 27" TUF VG27AQL1A and a Dell 24" for dual setup |
Case | Phanteks Enthoo 719/LUXE 2 BLACK |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard on both boards |
Power Supply | Phanteks Revolt X 1200W |
Mouse | Logitech G903 Lightspeed Wireless Gaming Mouse |
Keyboard | Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum |
Software | WINDOWS 10 PRO 64 BITS on both systems |
Benchmark Scores | Se more about my 2 in 1 system here: kortlink.dk/2ca4x |
This! Company I work for always tells me one thing. Respect your competition, don't talk shit about them. Heck we don't even mention competition when we actually show value in our product why its better. If you know your product is better you don't need to talk down competition and invest more time in them.
3950x might not be a bad chip for gaming. Trust me. Turn on game mode, it will likely disable one Chip and now you have the top bin chip boosting way higher, with 8 cores and SMT. I did this on my 3900x and I was boosting way higher on my cores in gaming. But now 3950x will have the upper hand since you get 8 cores that are top binned lol. Best of both worlds. It will be fun to see how it performs with game mode.
System Name | main/SFFHTPCARGH!(tm)/Xiaomi Mi TV Stick/Samsung Galaxy S23/Ally |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D/i7-3770/S905X/Snapdragon 8 Gen 2/Ryzen Z1 Extreme |
Motherboard | MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk/HP SFF Q77 Express/uh?/uh?/Asus |
Cooling | Enermax ETS-T50 Axe aRGB /basic HP HSF /errr.../oh! liqui..wait, no:sizable vapor chamber/a nice one |
Memory | 64gb Corsair Vengeance Pro 3600mhz DDR4/8gb DDR3 1600/2gb LPDDR3/8gb LPDDR5x 4200/16gb LPDDR5 |
Video Card(s) | Hellhound Spectral White RX 7900 XTX 24gb/GT 730/Mali 450MP5/Adreno 740/RDNA3 768 core |
Storage | 250gb870EVO/500gb860EVO/2tbSandisk/NVMe2tb+1tb/4tbextreme V2/1TB Arion/500gb/8gb/256gb/2tb SN770M |
Display(s) | X58222 32" 2880x1620/32"FHDTV/273E3LHSB 27" 1920x1080/6.67"/AMOLED 2X panel FHD+120hz/FHD 120hz |
Case | Cougar Panzer Max/Elite 8300 SFF/None/back/back-front Gorilla Glass Victus 2+ UAG Monarch Carbon |
Audio Device(s) | Logi Z333/SB Audigy RX/HDMI/HDMI/Dolby Atmos/KZ x HBB PR2/Moondrop Chu II + TRN BT20S |
Power Supply | Chieftec Proton BDF-1000C /HP 240w/12v 1.5A/4Smart Voltplug PD 30W/Asus USB-C 65W |
Mouse | Speedlink Sovos Vertical-Asus ROG Spatha-Logi Ergo M575/Xiaomi XMRM-006/touch/touch |
Keyboard | Endorfy Thock 75% <3/none/touch/virtual |
VR HMD | Medion Erazer |
Software | Win10 64/Win8.1 64/Android TV 8.1/Android 13/Win11 64 |
Benchmark Scores | bench...mark? i do leave mark on bench sometime, to remember which one is the most comfortable. :o |
Processor | AMD Ryzen 3700x |
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Motherboard | asus ROG Strix B-350I Gaming |
Cooling | Deepcool LS520 SE |
Memory | crucial ballistix 32Gb DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 3070 FE |
Storage | WD sn550 1To/WD ssd sata 1To /WD black sn750 1To/Seagate 2To/WD book 4 To back-up |
Display(s) | LG GL850 |
Case | Dan A4 H2O |
Audio Device(s) | sennheiser HD58X |
Power Supply | Corsair SF600 |
Mouse | MX master 3 |
Keyboard | Master Key Mx |
Software | win 11 pro |
How hard/costly developing an API/compiler is ? My knowledge on compilers is limited, but I know that CUDA became dominant because of the support that Nvidia was able to provide. But can AMD really play catch up ? Even Apple abandoned open cl, and made metal, wich makes GPGPU more cluttered than before. I wonder how developers would react if another api appeared..."Open Everything" is a wonderful scheme: basically it is letting everyone else do the R&D for you. Kinda lazy approach TBH. Not particularly fond of this mode. Had tons of trouble back in the days writing programs hoping to use OpenCL on the Fiji arc. TONS of problems.
System Name | Pioneer |
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Processor | Ryzen R9 7950X |
Motherboard | GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans... |
Memory | 64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30 |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310 |
Storage | Intel 905p Optane 960GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs |
Display(s) | 55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display |
Case | Thermaltake Core X31 |
Audio Device(s) | TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W |
Mouse | Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless |
Keyboard | WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps |
Software | Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024 |
System Name | Good enough |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen R9 7900 - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora Edge |
Motherboard | ASRock B650 Pro RS |
Cooling | 2x 360mm NexXxoS ST30 X-Flow, 1x 360mm NexXxoS ST30, 1x 240mm NexXxoS ST30 |
Memory | 32GB - FURY Beast RGB 5600 Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire RX 7900 XT - Alphacool Eisblock Aurora |
Storage | 1x Kingston KC3000 1TB 1x Kingston A2000 1TB, 1x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB , 1x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB |
Display(s) | LG UltraGear 32GN650-B + 4K Samsung TV |
Case | Phanteks NV7 |
Power Supply | GPS-750C |
I’m not sure if this is still true, but I know in the past, Intel compilers had much to do with this performance optimization.
System Name | Miami |
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Processor | Ryzen 3800X |
Motherboard | Asus Crosshair VII Formula |
Cooling | Ek Velocity/ 2x 280mm Radiators/ Alphacool fullcover |
Memory | F4-3600C16Q-32GTZNC |
Video Card(s) | XFX 6900 XT Speedster 0 |
Storage | 1TB WD M.2 SSD/ 2TB WD SN750/ 4TB WD Black HDD |
Display(s) | DELL AW3420DW / HP ZR24w |
Case | Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL |
Audio Device(s) | EVGA Nu Audio |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime Gold 1000W+750W |
Mouse | Corsair Scimitar/Glorious Model O- |
Keyboard | Corsair K95 Platinum |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
I guess Puget system don't know how to do benchmark then.
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