Intel Core i9-9900KS to be Available from October

[trparky]

I said you’d have to apply appropriate voltage. And yes, it really is that easy.

I wouldn't say playing with voltages is exactly easy. I've heard of some people taking hours of painstaking benchmarking and stability testing to dial in just the right amount of voltage to allow for system stability while not cooking said processor to death. I've heard of people dialing in voltages to the thousandths place (third number after the decimal point). And then there's setting an appropriate AVX offset as well.

 

[TheMadDutchDude]

Yeah, that’s the massively obsessive. If you have an inkling of what you’re doing, you can achieve it without hassle. Hell... there are how many thousands of guides on YouTube alone...?

AVX offset would be easy. Copy the previous chip. Typically a -2 or -3 is used by default.

 

[trparky]

And just what kind of cooling do you have for the 5 GHz running 9900K processor? I can guarantee you that your typical off-the-shelf AIO liquid cooler would struggle to keep that chip cool.

 

[trog100]

Yeah, that’s the massively obsessive. If you have an inkling of what you’re doing, you can achieve it without hassle. Hell... there are how many thousands of guides on YouTube alone...?

AVX offset would be easy. Copy the previous chip. Typically a -2 or -3 is used by default.

youtube is mostly full of sh-t.. i own a 9900k and do a have some a vague idea of what i am doing.. as i have i said before my 8700K ran too hot and my 9900k runs hotter.. it dosnt take much brain cell jiggling to figure out why.. like for like 30% more cores mean 30% more heat..

the 9900k is a better binned chip than the 8700K which helps with under volting which gets rid of some of that extra heat.. my 9900k will hit 5 g at 1.23 core voltage but overclocked and under volted it still runs too hot at 5 g with all cores firing..

its fine for gaming simply because less than half the cores are being used but a cpu benchmark will soon have it hitting 100C..

i am pretty sure mine is a good chip.. better than average.. it must be to be 5 g stable at 1.23 volts

amusing really when overclcocking a cpu involves under volting.. he he

trog

 

[TheMadDutchDude]

It just means you got a better sample of the silicon. It’s the same otherwise.

Do you think that people got a better bin than you if their chip can do 5.2 at 1.2v (example) whereas you struggle to do 5G at 1.35v? Not exactly... it’s down to silicon quality of the particular wafer your chip was cut from. It’s still the same chip and same design.

 

[ToxicTaZ]

Better binning? LOL. It’s the same CPU with the multi locked at 50 instead of 47 under load. It’s the exact same CPU that Intel feels they need to release to get sales up.

I’ve not run into a single story of a 9900K not managing 5 GHz by setting it to 50x and applying the appropriate voltage. Not one!

Just like I heard on the ‘net before. “KS” is just short for “Keep Spending” - it’s the exact same CPU, but sadly, people like Taz will fall for it and make it a viable proposition for Intel to sell their chips in this way.

Why are you so jealous and upset for? Just because the old 14nm++ and old architecture of the 9900KS blows away brand new 7nm Ryzen 3000 architecture!

I'm actually very excited about this speed demon....once all the benchmarks are out just to put its competition in its place!

9900KS the last upgrade for the Intel 300 series and is the best and last Coffeelake Refresh CPU, just as the 8086K was the fastest Coffeelake CPU. Both have 4GHz base with 5GHz Turbo with a maximum aftermarket 5.3GHz OC with good cooling systems like EK or Swiftech etc etc...

All Security will be upgraded from factory integrated...possibly other internal tweaks.... Maybe more cache or faster cache? Just have to wait and see.

No the 9900KS is not for everyone especially poorer people that usually buy entry level i3/i5 or R3/R5 CPUs. 9900KS is supposed to sell for $499. US and a price drop for the 9900K.

9900KS is built for PC Gaming crown. If you want the fastest 8 cores Gaming CPU get the 9900KS and if you want cheaper CPU and don't care about slower performance get the 9900K or 3800X end of Story.

 

[TheMadDutchDude]

Who said anything about jealousy? I’m pointing out a fact. I own both AMD and Intel systems, so there’s no bias here...

Intel already has the gaming crown at this point. That’s another pointless point to make...

You might get 5.3 on a binned chip. I’d still bet that it’ll be a <5% rate of all chips that can do this reliably.

 

[ratirt]

Who said anything about jealousy? I’m pointing out a fact. I own both AMD and Intel systems, so there’s no bias here...

Intel already has the gaming crown at this point. That’s another pointless point to make...

You might get 5.3 on a binned chip. I’d still bet that it’ll be a <5% rate of all chips that can do this reliably.

They can do it but it will require crazy Vcore 1.4+ to get it.

 

[trog100]

They can do it but it will require crazy Vcore 1.4+ to get it.

and super crazy heat to go with it.. i am pretty sure my 9900K would do 5.2 or 5. at maybe 1.3 volts but it would run way too hot.. i took my 8700k up to 5.2 very easily but without some crazy cooling i could not run it there..

these things really are about binning and heat.. too much heat is what limits them..

trog

 

[ratirt]

and super crazy heat to go with it.. i am pretty sure my 9900K would do 5.2 or 5. at maybe 1.3 volts but it would run way too hot.. i took my 8700k up to 5.2 very easily but without some crazy cooling i could not run it there..

these things really are about binning and heat.. too much heat is what limits them..

trog

I know. But some people dont realize that. The 9900KS is basically 9900k with a boost clocks set to 5Ghz instead 4.7Ghz like 9900k has nothing more. It would seem 9900KS is factory OC'ed. People set 5.4Ghz even on them but the Vcore is crazy. It's like extreme OC but without liquid nitrogen.