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Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT Nitro+

Is lack of hardware ray tracing really a con?
For the asking price, I'm inclined to say yes. I mean, if I'm out $400+, I'd better be able to at least run the full 3DMark suite :D
 
For the asking price, I'm inclined to say yes. I mean, if I'm out $400+, I'd better be able to at least run the full 3DMark suite :D
Not having a proprietary implementation of something that no one really uses [in the grand scheme of things] isn't what I call a con. :laugh:
 
Not having a proprietary implementation of something that no one really uses isn't what I call a con. :laugh:
It's also a DXR implementation, that's a DX API open to anyone.
 
It's also a DXR implementation, that's a DX API open to anyone.
I have to ask a buddy at work who has 2080 Ti, but I don't think he uses RTX very often. If that's the case, it doesn't inspire confidence, regardless of which API is being used to deliver it. I think that it's too immature of a technology to start wanting it on everything and calling it a con when it's missing. AMD even said themselves that they'd rather pursue an option that doesn't require dedicated hardware which makes a lot more sense, at least to me.

Personally, I think the tensor cores made a lot more sense than adding RT.
 
I have to ask a buddy at work who has 2080 Ti, but I don't think he uses RTX very often. If that's the case, it doesn't inspire confidence, regardless of which API is being used to deliver it. I think that it's too immature of a technology to start wanting it on everything and calling it a con when it's missing. AMD even said themselves that they'd rather pursue an option that doesn't require dedicated hardware which makes a lot more sense, at least to me.

Personally, I think the tensor cores made a lot more sense than adding RT.
The thing is, BVH handling may not be achieveable with shaders, so some dedicated hardware may be needed anyway.
Then again, if AMD released drivers that made DXR possible on Navi, then yes, the lack of dedicated hardware would have to be removed from that list.
 
I purchased this card to replace my reference 5700XT and, while it is a good card in many respects, it suffers from the same technical flaw as my original Sapphire RX480 Nitro+. The heat sink is simply not large enough to passively maintain a fixed low GPU temp under desktop conditions, which makes the fans come on periodically. Under desktop conditions the GPU temps steadily climbs up to 59degC and then the fans come on until the temp drops down to 49degC at which point the fans stop. Then the cycle constantly repeats: the GPU temp steadily climbs back up to 59degC and the fans come back on and then off once it reaches 49degC again. As mentioned this is just using desktop applications such as Word/Outlook or browsing etc which, according to Sapphire's claim, should see no fans coming on. The time it takes between fan off to fan on is approx. every 3.5 minutes. This fan on/off cycling is really annoying - its actually more annoying than the constant low level fan noise of eh reference card - and makes Sapphire's the 'fan stop at idle' claim misleading. Please note that I am currently using the card's quiet BIOS and have an HP 1440p monitor with a fixed 75Hz refresh rate. I have also tried lowering my monitor to a 60Hz refresh, but the card exhibits the same fan on/off cycling. GRRRR. I have captured the cycling using GPU-Z (refer attached). You can see the fans coming on and going off again, but the GPU (load and clock data) is pretty much doing nothing. My Sapphire VEGA 64 Nitro+ was able to stay cool enough under all desktop conditions that the fans never came on. I think Sapphire should have used the exact same heat sink for the RX 5700 XT. Unfortunately, this fan cycling in the desktop has spoilt my enjoyment of this card quite a bit.
 

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Hi guys,

Stuck in quarantine for a month and got the itch to buy tech and pulled trigger on this card. Ordered it from Provantage and delivery day is tomorrow.
Paid $30 for shipping so if I refuse delivery I'm out $30 possibly. Not sure. Went AMD for hackintosh compatibility mostly. Maybe should have ordered the Gigabyte Auros
version? Seems like the Auros has a beefier heatsink though can't be anymore power efficient considering it has 7 power phases vs 8 phases on the Nitro?

What to do?

Thanks
 
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