Consumer Technology Association Defines Standards for 8K Televisions

[Raevenlord]

4K hasn't even come in full swing, and already we have the 8K standard nailed down by the Consumer Technology Association (CTA). The standard comes as more of a confirmation than an encouragement to 8K set releases; all 8K TVs currently on the market are within the new standard's specs. These are pretty straightforward as well: a resolution of 7680 x 4320 pixels (my god the monstrosity); at least 24, 30 and 60 FPS support for content; 10-bit colour; HDR; 8K upscaling (duh) and HDCP 2.2.

Of course, content will trickle down at an even slower rate than it already has with 4K. It seems interesting that the pace of innovation barely brings the rest of the content along. Though the jumps do have to start somewhere - and let it be on hardware, so that economies of scale and manufacturing kinks can be ironed out until there is enough content to entice the average consumer when prices finally come down to sane levels. Devices will be able to make use of the new 8K Ultra HD logo starting January 2020. CTA projects U.S. sales of 8K UHD TVs will reach 175,000 units and $734 million in revenue in 2019, with continued growth expected in subsequent years. With whispers of next-generation console hardware supporting the resolution upfront, it may actually happen that a transition occurs more swiftly than it did with 4K.



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[fynxer]

Samsung 8K TV's is not up to snuff so if you are eyeballing 8K for your next upgrade be sure not to get ripped off by substandard tech.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnar...msung-in-new-tv-technology-spat/#4801e2407368

 

[kapone32]

I wonder when we will see GPus that can output 8K. Would that not be 32 million pixels rendered by the GPU?

Samsung 8K TV's is not up to snuff so if you are eyeballing 8K for your next upgrade be sure not to get ripped off by substandard tech.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnar...msung-in-new-tv-technology-spat/#4801e2407368

I would love to get an "failed panel" from LG with this resolution QNIX or Wasabi Mango come to mind.

 

[jabbadap]

So in reality 7.5K... Wonder who is the first idiot to put that on 15" laptop.

 

[Octavean]

if the spec is respected then at the very least 4K compliant / capable hardware should scale well. That is to say that maybe 4K games will play well on an 8K display.

 

[ZoneDymo]

So in reality 7.5K... Wonder who is the first idiot to put that on 15" laptop.

apple 8k retina display yo!

 

[damric]

I only recently got a 4K TV when I snagged a nice 58" Samsung for $400 at Sam's Club. The lack of 4K content is rather annoying though. Most television stations are still in 720p here...ugh.

 

[dicktracy]

So in reality 7.5K... Wonder who is the first idiot to put that on 15" laptop.

An Android phone has a higher chance to do that before any laptop

 

[lexluthermiester]

An Android phone has a higher chance to do that before any laptop

Phone SOC's barely have the GPU power to run 4k, let alone 8k(4 x 4k). Not gonna happen anytime soon unless a breakthrough is made in IC manufacturing.

 

[hardcore_gamer]

I only recently got a 4K TV when I snagged a nice 58" Samsung for $400 at Sam's Club. The lack of 4K content is rather annoying though. Most television stations are still in 720p here...ugh.

I got a 65" QLED - even with relatively good upscaling, 1080p content doesn't look good on a big 4K TV. Although nextflix makes their original content in 4K HDR, almost all the 3rd party movies are still at full hd.

That being said, 4K HDR content looks good, and I can certainly see the usefulness of 8K in 75inch+ TVs.

 

[Camm]

Samsung 8K TV's is not up to snuff so if you are eyeballing 8K for your next upgrade be sure not to get ripped off by substandard tech.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnar...msung-in-new-tv-technology-spat/#4801e2407368

Whilst I agree it'd be a bit silly to buy a 8k TV atm, I'm pretty sure LG doesn't have a tv that isn't in five figures. If you're desperate for 8k, at least the Sammy set is somewhat affordable.

 

[windwhirl]

So in reality 7.5K... Wonder who is the first idiot to put that on 15" laptop.

apple 8k retina display yo!

8K at 15.6 inches... that'd be around 565 ppi... which is similar to the pixel density of quite a few devices... the Samsung Galaxy S6 and S7 boast a 577 ppi display, the LG G6 goes with a 564 ppi display... their successors, like the S8, the S10, the LG G7, all boast similarly high density displays. Of course, there are also a few that go even higher, like the Sony Xperia Z5 Premium, which went as high as 800 ppi...

The Retina displays are rather low on this scale. The current Macbook Pro display has a density of 220 ppi... Even the new Pro Display XDR stands at 218 ppi. Meanwhile, the current XPS 15 can go as high as 282 ppi with the UltraSharp 4K display option.

And most modern low cost devices are usually not going below 200 ppi.

IMO, high pixel density displays are here to stay. It's more likely that software and content will adapt to work with any pixel density...

 

[Th3pwn3r]

I only recently got a 4K TV when I snagged a nice 58" Samsung for $400 at Sam's Club. The lack of 4K content is rather annoying though. Most television stations are still in 720p here...ugh.

There's plenty of 4k content in just movies alone. Other sources too but you have to pay for it.

 

[lexluthermiester]

There's plenty of 4k content in just movies alone. Other sources too but you have to pay for it.

True, but most of it is online and a single 4k30hz stream requires 26mbps, to say nothing of 4k60hz, and most people don't have that kind of internet connection available. So for most people 4k=Bluray.

 

[windwhirl]

True, but most of it is online and a single 4k30hz stream requires 26mbps, to say nothing of 4k60hz, and most people don't have that kind of internet connection available. So for most people 4k=Bluray.

Perhaps you should also consider data caps, if you're that much into watching online 4K content...

 

[lexluthermiester]

Perhaps you should also consider data caps, if you're that much into watching online 4K content...

Yup, forgot about that. My ISP doesn't do cap limits(and I'd drop them if they did), but a lot of people do have to deal with that crap and have no other choice.

 

[Durvelle27]

True, but most of it is online and a single 4k30hz stream requires 26mbps, to say nothing of 4k60hz, and most people don't have that kind of internet connection available. So for most people 4k=Bluray.

I have no problems streaming 4K here

Watch 4K content daily

 

[Prima.Vera]

Cannot wait for the 21:9 monitors with 10080x4320p resolution. Those will be the best ever made.

So in reality 7.5K... Wonder who is the first idiot to put that on 15" laptop.

Relax, the 6" phones will get that first. Mark my words!

 

[silentbogo]

Relax, the 6" phones will get that first. Mark my words!

I think ppi-wise it's been done many moons ago by Sony and few others... I still have a bad aftertaste of their entire Xperia XZ*** lineup (not just from repair standpoint, but usability in general), and apparently they are still pushing for 4K in a pocket.

 

[Midland Dog]

someone tell these tards that 2k isnt 1080p

 

[lexluthermiester]

someone tell these tards that 2k isnt 1080p

Technically, it is. 3840x2160=4k because it's around 4000 horizontal pixels. Divide that by half, 1920x1080=2k because 1920 is around 2000 horizontal pixels. What people refer to when they incorrectly state "2k" is 2560x1440 which is actually 2.5k because 2560 is around 2500 horizontal pixels.
So 2160p=4k, 1080p=2k and 1440p=2.5k

 

[Vayra86]

Samsung 8K TV's is not up to snuff so if you are eyeballing 8K for your next upgrade be sure not to get ripped off by substandard tech.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnar...msung-in-new-tv-technology-spat/#4801e2407368

Actually if you read the whole piece there is a bit more to it than that. And no, its not that Samsungs tech is not up to snuff.

Take a few minutes and read before you post please.

 

[jabbadap]

Technically, it is. 3840x2160=4k because it's around 4000 horizontal pixels. Divide that by half, 1920x1080=2k because 1920 is around 2000 horizontal pixels. What people refer to when they incorrectly state "2k" is 2560x1440 which is actually 2.5k because 2560 is around 2500 horizontal pixels.
So 2160p=4k, 1080p=2k and 1440p=2.5k

Well K is 1024, so 1920/1024 = 1.875K(, 2560/1024=2.5K), 3840/1024=3.75K and now 7680/1024=7.5K. So it's actually going worse and worse...

Real 2K at 16:9 would be 2048x1152 and there even were such a monitors with that native resolution(I.E. DELL SP2309W).

 

[killster1]

I only recently got a 4K TV when I snagged a nice 58" Samsung for $400 at Sam's Club. The lack of 4K content is rather annoying though. Most television stations are still in 720p here...ugh.

58" is a strange size, i guess its a nu7100? not a bad tv i bought one for my vacation house and i like it.

i havent paid for cable / satellite in 13 years i still watch 4k uhd everyday have you tried the internet hehe, with that said i am dreading getting a 8k tv since 4k uhd downloads are already 50+gb.
Yes my att uverse is capped to 1000gb (after it becomes 10$ per 50gb unlimited is a extra 30$) so i have to download with att nighthawk hotspot on the months with lots of good movies and shows out, lately they haven't even sent me a email saying im at 666gb, so must not be much good out ;(

 

[Franzen4Real]

I wonder when we will see GPus that can output 8K. Would that not be 32 million pixels rendered by the GPU?

The RTX series as well as Navi/Radeon 7 already support 8k output, so everything going forward should also. (my apologies if you also meant ***at playable frame rates... we are many gens from that)