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This week on my Plex server build...

I determined that the fan that came with the Akasa Nero LX was too loud, so I swapped it out for one of my Arctic F12 fans.



This fan not only spins slower, but it's nearly silent and moves more air.



The stock mounting hardware proved to be really annoying, so I used a technique from this thread, and it was much easier.

CPU temperatures while encoding video are about the same, but it's much quieter now.
 
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Well.....just to confess to you guys....After 1 month of using parallelly Ryzen 1700 and my old Xeon I decide to sell Zen platform and actually even earn few bucks....Don't have anything bad to said about Zen but all in all with my RX 480 in gaming is literally no gains and FPS are more or less the same as my OC X58 old 6 core.....Sure in editing is different story but not such a big deal if I wait a min or two....
 
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This week on my Plex server build...
I determined that the fan that came with the Akasa Nero LX was too loud, so I swapped it out for one of my Arctic F12 fans.

All praise the humble, yet mighty zip tie, saviour of many a situation. :clap:
 
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Well.....just to confess to you guys....After 1 month of using parallelly Ryzen 1700 and my old Xeon I decide to sell Zen platform and actually even earn few bucks....Don't have anything bad to said about Zen but all in all with my RX 480 in gaming is literally no gains and FPS are more or less the same as my OC X58 old 6 core.....Sure in editing is different story but not such a big deal if I wait a min or two....
There’s much to be said about “good enough” computing, especially if you’re keeping old components in service and out of the e-waste bin.
 
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Well said there i couldnt come up with a better say :)
 
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Well.....just to confess to you guys....After 1 month of using parallelly Ryzen 1700 and my old Xeon I decide to sell Zen platform and actually even earn few bucks....Don't have anything bad to said about Zen but all in all with my RX 480 in gaming is literally no gains and FPS are more or less the same as my OC X58 old 6 core.....Sure in editing is different story but not such a big deal if I wait a min or two....
Weird. I think the limiting factor in that built was the RX480 but that's just my take..
 
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Weird. I think the limiting factor in that built was the RX480 but that's just my take..
Ohh yeah sure totally RX 480 IS the limiting factor and I am not saying that I am surprised,I didnt expect any gains with Ryzen at all in games but honestly some games even works few FPS better with Xeon.....I am sure that this Xeon can max out and not bottleneck even Gtx 1070 or Amd Vega 56/64.....don't get me wrong I didn't buy Ryzen because I wanted to change my PC....It was a deal that I could not pass....so I just tested it and then I was considering to flip it or keep it.....well I flip it :roll:
 
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Ohh yeah sure totally RX 480 IS the limiting factor and I am not saying that I am surprised,I didnt expect any gains with Ryzen at all in games but honestly some games even works few FPS better with Xeon.....I am sure that this Xeon can max out and not bottleneck even Gtx 1070 or Amd Vega 56/64.....don't get me wrong I didn't buy Ryzen because I wanted to change my PC....It was a deal that I could not pass....so I just tested it and then I was considering to flip it or keep it.....well I flip it :roll:
Oh yeah, of course. I have a 2080 in a Dell T3500 with a Xeon X5680 and it runs great. The 2080 is being bottlenecked by the Xeon, but only just. Depends on the game. If it were me, I'd keep the Ryzen and get a new GPU.
 
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Oh yeah, of course. I have a 2080 in a Dell T3500 with a Xeon X5680 and it runs great. The 2080 is being bottlenecked by the Xeon, but only just. Depends on the game. If it were me, I'd keep the Ryzen and get a new GPU.
For me personally honestly no need for it yet and even if I decide to go for Ryzen I will go for Zen 2(IPC is way faster) if I find some good deal again....I even now thinking about some X79 but only IF I can find good quality mobo for decent price....
 
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Oh yeah, of course. I have a 2080 in a Dell T3500 with a Xeon X5680 and it runs great. The 2080 is being bottlenecked by the Xeon, but only just. Depends on the game. If it were me, I'd keep the Ryzen and get a new GPU.
Definitely much to be said for good enough. My Dell Tx500s do all I ask of them just fine ... so far. Nice to know the 2080 is an option for these. Wondering if anyone has tried 5700 XT in them. Figure one more upgrade above my RX 480s will hold me off for another couple years until DDR5 systems are widely available. Decided long ago I was going to skip DDR4 all together.
 
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Definitely much to be said for good enough. My Dell Tx500s do all I ask of them just fine ... so far. Nice to know the 2080 is an option for these. Wondering if anyone has tried 5700 XT in them. Figure one more upgrade above my RX 480s will hold me off for another couple years until DDR5 systems are widely available. Decided long ago I was going to skip DDR4 all together.
Really depend on speed of your 6 core Xeon if is it OC or not....If you ask me 4,2Ghz-4,5Ghz on these chips should be enough to push maximum even on GTX 1070 or Vega 56/64 I believe it will bottleneck for a few FPS on 1080p with 2070 or 5700 but if you playing on 4k or 1440p there will be just perfectly fine........
 
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Really depend on speed of your 6 core Xeon if is it OC or not....If you ask me 4,2Ghz-4,5Ghz on these chips should be enough to push maximum even on GTX 1070 or Vega 56/64 I believe it will bottleneck for a few FPS on 1080p with 2070 or 5700 but if you playing on 4k or 1440p there will be just perfectly fine........
These Dell are decidedly overclock unfriendly. If not for changing multi in TS or XTU this w3680 would be stuck at 3.3ghz instead of 4.0ghz. I use a large plasma business monitor at 1080p. Most looking forward to Doom Eternal. Being that game is Vulkan only, and well optimized for it, my thinking is the AMD cards will enjoy an even bigger performance boost in that title than they did with Vulkan in Doom 2016. Should be interesting.
 
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These Dell are decidedly overclock unfriendly. If not for changing multi in TS or XTU this w3680 would be stuck at 3.3ghz instead of 4.0ghz. I use a large plasma business monitor at 1080p. Most looking forward to Doom Eternal. Being that game is Vulkan only, and well optimized for it, my thinking is the AMD cards will enjoy an even bigger performance boost in that title than they did with Vulkan in Doom 2016. Should be interesting.
Yeah I agree about Vulkan also it utilize so much better multicore CPU's even if they work on lower frequency...check this here:


at 5:41 benchmark starts with Strange Brigade that is done in Vulkan and as you can see Xeon E5-2658 V3(2,2Ghz Boost 2,9Ghz) is going neck to neck with the 9900k(5Ghz) in same scenes even few FPS better which is incredible especially because before that game we could see that 9900k is clearly dominating in other games as expected ....BTW GPU used for benchmarking is GTX 2070
 
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Love that video :) It's amazing to see the differences between DirectX and Vulkan... What's even more amazing is the sheer difference in clock speed which seems to matter nothing whatsoever when running Vulkan..

So when are they going to start running Vulkan over DirectX??...... That will be a great day imo.....
 
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Really depend on speed of your 6 core Xeon if is it OC or not....If you ask me 4,2Ghz-4,5Ghz on these chips should be enough to push maximum even on GTX 1070 or Vega 56/64 I believe it will bottleneck for a few FPS on 1080p with 2070 or 5700 but if you playing on 4k or 1440p there will be just perfectly fine........
I'm not OCing. Dell's don't allow it.

So when are they going to start running Vulkan over DirectX??...... That will be a great day imo.....
Wouldn't that be nice?
 

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I'm not OCing. Dell's don't allow it.

Wouldn't that be nice?

I wish Dell's did allow overclocking, my servers would be more fun to play with CB then!! :laugh: !!

I seriously see no reason why that shouldn't happen to be honest?? Such is life that the Nvidia cards would be slower and the 5Ghz all cored 9900KS++++++ or whatever it's called wouldn't be needed so much.. Maybe that's the reasoning behind it?....
 
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I wish Dell's did allow overclocking, my servers would be more fun to play with CB then!! :laugh: !!

I seriously see no reason why that shouldn't happen to be honest?? Such is life that the Nvidia cards would be slower and the 5Ghz all cored 9900KS++++++ or whatever it's called wouldn't be needed so much.. Maybe that's the reasoning behind it?....
On all your question answer is very simple........$GREED FOR MONEY$........
 

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I dunno, these companies have to keep advancing, and it’s not as easy as it once was. If they were still producing the same chips as 10 years ago, people would be really mad. Look how long it took for AMD to catch up. We all don’t need the best anymore, much like with smartphones, and we aren’t exactly forced to upgrade.
 
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This is definitely a story of being in the right place at the right time.
Nobody was interested in a listing of four Slot 2 Xeons, so I managed to do a deal for US$40 including shipping.
The actual price of the Xeons was a small fraction of that lol

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That where it made in kildare in ireland i think damn im proud to be irish lol

It's What's Inside that Counts at Intel Ireland
Intel Ireland's
Leixlip campus, located in County Kildare, began operations in 1989.
 
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This is definitely a story of being in the right place at the right time.
Nobody was interested in a listing of four Slot 2 Xeons, so I managed to do a deal for US$40 including shipping.
The actual price of the Xeons was a small fraction of that lol

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What are you planning for them? Found a pair of dual slot2 boards? Would make for a pair of great retroXP systems. You will need slimline/low profile fans for them.
 
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What are you planning for them? Found a pair of dual slot2 boards? Would make for a pair of great retroXP systems. You will need slimline/low profile fans for them.

Definitely going to hold on to them and keep an eye out for a dual or quad slot 2 motherboard. That'll be a long-term side project though, obviously they're super rare.
 
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I never owned a slocket system. I didn't even know there were Xeons that ran on that platform, but I guess it makes sense since it was all about the cache. My college roommate had a PII 233MHz Gateway2000 though. It was pretty crazy to open the case and see that big chip and heatsink on them. So those are 500MHz Xeons?
 
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