What's the fastest storage in your PC?

[willace]

Desktop: SATA SSD (2.5")
Laptop 1: SATA M.2 SSD
Laptop 2: NVME SSD

 

[Deleted member 178884]

SSD OS + Applications
HDD Everything else.

 

[Nuckles56]

I've got NVMe, sata ssd, HDDs and even a disk drive (I know what year is it?) in my current system

 

[P4-630]

970 Evo NVMe boot drive and some games, 850Pro/860 Evo games/some storage.
No HDD's.

 

[mat9v]

I would love another category - NVMe RAID
But for me:
2xNVMe WD750N 1TB RAID0
3x1TB MX500 RAID0
3x2TB HDD RAID0
2x8TB HDD RAID1 for backup of all RAID0

 

[SN2716057]

In my main pc: 2x M.2 NVMe SSD's, and 1x M.2 SATA SSD.
In my VR&HTPC: 1x M.2 NVMe SSD, and 1x SATA SSD.

 

[csendesmark]

No NVMe SSD RAID option?

Also wondering how did SATA not get a decent upgrade since 10 years,
USB just got to speeds up to 40gbit/s
SATA stays still at 6gbit/s, which was really decent when it came out.
It is getting more and more pointless, it is for HDD-s I get it,
but as I see: on last gen mainboards m.2 slots are still rare to have more than two slots.

Would be nice to have cable connection for the latest and fastest SSDs, where it is not sticking next to an already hot surface,
And could have it in a separate place where we could cool them like we did with HDDs in the old days

 

[Sithaer]

Cheapo WD Green 120GB 2.5" SSD for OS only.

Rest is on standard 7200 rpm Hard drives stored in my PC.

Still don't really like the 1 TB SSD prices in my country so its the last thing on my 'upgrade' list for now since I mainly play single player games and I don't mind 'that much' the loading times to be honest.
Will get one eventually but only when I have nothing better/important to spend money on.

 

[JAB Creations]

I want to say my 4 1TB 660P in RAID 0 but it is actually my 2 Adata SX8200 Pro 512s in RAID 0 that is the king. All of them are in 2 Asus M2 Riser cards (one of my favourite tech purchases of all time).

Do you clone to any storage? RAID 0 with two drives doubles the risk over a single drive failure though four drives quadrupples the risk. When (not if) a single drive fails all the data on all of the drives becomes non-salvageable.

 

[kapone32]

Do you clone to any storage? RAID 0 with two drives doubles the risk over a single drive failure though four drives quadrupples the risk. When (not if) a single drive fails all the data on all of the drives becomes non-salvageable.

Yes I do but it is NVME so I don't worry about that as much (no moving parts) and all drives fail eventually. I may get blasted for this but I do believe RAID 0 is perfect for NVME drives to help with if nothing else endurance. The thought process is that with 4 drives 1 bit of data will take up 25% of each cell rather than an entire cell. I do have a 1TB NVME as my boot drive and 2 NVME data drives but I also have another 16TB of SSD, SSHD and HDD for backups, game files and random files. Besides I like to experiment with all of the variations of storage available today. One of my favourites recently was doing a comparison between the OCZ RC100 240GB drive and a OCZ Revodrive3 240GB drive.

 

[mat9v]

Yes I do but it is NVME so I don't worry about that as much (no moving parts) and all drives fail eventually. I may get blasted for this but I do believe RAID 0 is perfect for NVME drives to help with if nothing else endurance. The thought process is that with 4 drives 1 bit of data will take up 25% of each cell rather than an entire cell. I do have a 1TB NVME as my boot drive and 2 NVME data drives but I also have another 16TB of SSD, SSHD and HDD for backups, game files and random files. Besides I like to experiment with all of the variations of storage available today. One of my favourites recently was doing a comparison between the OCZ RC100 240GB drive and a OCZ Revodrive3 240GB drive.

Since most RAID0 configs use 64/128/256 sector sizes, any file below that threshold will end up on only one drive. Furthermore, since writing to any drive require whole cell to be read, modified and written back there is no benefit for endurance in RAID0 setups. There is no splitting bits as you stated, every bit lands on one of the drives. What is impacted by RAID0 is TBW paramater as the whole amount of data written to the drives is more or less split between them equally so the 3 drives array will have 3 times the TBW.

 

[64K]

SATA SSD.

 

[kapone32]

Since most RAID0 configs use 64/128/256 sector sizes, any file below that threshold will end up on only one drive. Furthermore, since writing to any drive require whole cell to be read, modified and written back there is no benefit for endurance in RAID0 setups. There is no splitting bits as you stated, every bit lands on one of the drives. What is impacted by RAID0 is TBW paramater as the whole amount of data written to the drives is more or less split between them equally so the 3 drives array will have 3 times the TBW.

This is why I love this site, as I understand you the controller allocates entire bits. So if the controller is at the top of the pipeline does that mean that Windows sees 1 controller at 8 channels or 4 controllers at 32 channels (if you have 4 drives)? I am trying to wrap my head around it I will probably look up documentation online later today.

 

[JAB Creations]

I may get blasted for this but I do believe RAID 0 is perfect for NVME drives to help with if nothing else endurance.

I have no idea, make that a question for Gamers Nexus.

I do have a 1TB NVME as my boot drive and 2 NVME data drives but I also have another 16TB of SSD, SSHD and HDD for backups, game files and random files. Besides I like to experiment with all of the variations of storage available today. One of my favourites recently was doing a comparison between the OCZ RC100 240GB drive and a OCZ Revodrive3 240GB drive.

Ah, smaller drives! If they work great though I buy for long term. All except my "low-end" laptop have 1TB SSDs and I'd like to go to 2TB PCI-Express 4 when I do my rebuild in the semi-near future. As long as what you have works for you and you don't have to replace parts too often then I'm happy for you.

 

[Flaky]

NVMe. Not because it's fastest, but because those are the only ones inside
To a point that SATA controller got disabled. And it's still a Z87 board, so everything is via adapters.

Also wondering how did SATA not get a decent upgrade since 10 years,
USB just got to speeds up to 40gbit/s
SATA stays still at 6gbit/s, which was really decent when it came out.

Because it does not need any upgrades. SSDs started as SATA just because it was the only common storage interface at time, not because it was best suited for them.
As AHCI does not allow to fully utilize SSDs, NVMe came out, and PCIe storage became standardized.

but as I see: on last gen mainboards m.2 slots are still rare to have more than two slots.

Then just get some vertical PCIe x1 -> M.2 adapters
PCIe 3.0 x1 already exceeds SATA3 speeds.

Would be nice to have cable connection for the latest and fastest SSDs, where it is not sticking next to an already hot surface,
And could have it in a separate place where we could cool them like we did with HDDs in the old days

Such thing already exists, and is called U.2. It also transports PCIe x4 just as M.2, but unfortunately these are enteprise/server targeted.
Consumer NVMe SSDs are all M.2 simply because they are universal - they fit both into desktops and laptops.

 

[csendesmark]

Also wondering how did SATA not get a decent upgrade since 10 years,
USB just got to speeds up to 40gbit/s
SATA stays still at 6gbit/s, which was really decent when it came out.
It is getting more and more pointless, it is for HDD-s I get it,
but as I see: on last gen mainboards m.2 slots are still rare to have more than two slots.

Because it does not need any upgrades. SSDs started as SATA just because it was the only common storage interface at time, not because it was best suited for them.
As AHCI does not allow to fully utilize SSDs, NVMe came out, and PCIe storage became standardized.

Maybe I was not clear,
I am not asking for SATA4 with some asweome speed and you have to see
m.2 port does not allow to take away from the relatively hot PBC of the mainboard, as we need that feature more and more,
check the latest PCIe 4 NVME-s, and highend mainboard offering "some" effort to cool 'em.

We should have some cable connect to replace current SATA connectors as the main feature to have storage.
An option for the latest NVME generation, where we have the speed and decent cooling options.

 

[Dave65]

I refuse to use an HDD anymore, I know just storage but for me, they clutter up my clean looking p600S

 

[authorized]

Maybe I was not clear,
I am not asking for SATA4 with some asweome speed and you have to see
m.2 port does not allow to take away from the relatively hot PBC of the mainboard, as we need that feature more and more,
check the latest PCIe 4 NVME-s, and highend mainboard offering "some" effort to cool 'em.

We should have some cable connect to replace current SATA connectors as the main feature to have storage.
An option for the latest NVME generation, where we have the speed and decent cooling options.

But M.2 extension cables do exist, they are just not commonplace because slots on motherboards are convenient, less cable clutter.

 

[kapone32]

I have no idea, make that a question for Gamers Nexus.



Ah, smaller drives! If they work great though I buy for long term. All except my "low-end" laptop have 1TB SSDs and I'd like to go to 2TB PCI-Express 4 when I do my rebuild in the semi-near future. As long as what you have works for you and you don't have to replace parts too often then I'm happy for you.

Smaller drives are really only good for boot anyway (Well with today's adapters you could have a really fast external) . The RC100 I bought from a User here more for nostalgic purposes and the RevoDrive3 used to be my boot drive on my FX8320 PC. I still have a 2TB HDD that I got in 2007 that works perfectly. I have been taught that dust and heat are the main enemies of a computer and as such have always had my components nice and cool. I had some of the 1st gen SSDs die on (Kingston, OCZ) and the only other drivesw that have failed are a 1TB HDD that I dropped and a Sandisk Ultra 2 960GB drive I bought from Ebay.

 

[Melvis]

All the PC's in this house and my foks are getting upgrades to Sata SSD's, M.2 Drives for the extra speed (last time I check) are still to expensive and W7 is plenty Fast enough on a Sata SSD even still not bad on a normal HDD.

 

[Flaky]

@csendesmark
Did you miss the part about U.2? That's the thing you want. But you won't get that in most consumer hardware because there is almost no demand. it is also not convenient for SSD vendors to create such niche products, and for mobo manufacturers to put a connector that wouldn't be used by 99% of users.

One shouldn't expect mass market hardware to address their specific needs. One should deal with reality as it goes.
There are already enough methods to deal with thermals - aftermarket radiators, adapters with radiators, having proper airflow, selecting motherboard with M.2 slot placement in mind...

 

[csendesmark]

@Flaky
Yes, I know, but we don't even have a single X570 board with u.2
(and only a handful with X470)
not even on the over the top high-end versions,
which is just
sad

Also, just because my expectations are not being met by the market (yet), does not mean those are not valid and won't get a foothold.
I guess the masses needs led-lights and sh*t for now

 

[kapone32]

@csendesmark
Did you miss the part about U.2? That's the thing you want. But you won't get that in most consumer hardware because there is almost no demand. it is also not convenient for SSD vendors to create such niche products, and for mobo manufacturers to put a connector that wouldn't be used by 99% of users.

One shouldn't expect mass market hardware to address their specific needs. One should deal with reality as it goes.
There are already enough methods to deal with thermals - aftermarket radiators, adapters with radiators, having proper airflow, selecting motherboard with M.2 slot placement in mind...

@Flaky
Yes, I know, but we don't even have a single X570 board with u.2
(and only a handful with X470)
not even on the over the top high-end versions,
which is just
sad

Also, just because my expectations are not being met by the market (yet), does not mean those are not valid and won't get a foothold.
I guess the masses needs led-lights and sh*t for now

I could have sworn As rock has an X570 board with U2

 

[Deleted member 178884]

but we don't even have a single X570 board with u.2

X570 Pro WS.

 

[Imsochobo]

Desktop:
Corsair MP510 960gb Nvme
Intel 660P 2TB
Samsung 860 EVO 1TB (2x)

Unraid server:
Samsung 960 EVO 500gb Nvme
Samsung 960 Pro 500gb Nvme
Intel 660P 1TB Nvme
Intel X25-M
Seagate Barracuda Pro 8tb

Laptop:
Adata 256 gb SSD sata (some model).