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Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: Better Than AMD’s Ryzen 9 3950X

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Yeah until Intel can provide 10 nm for desktop, don't expect anything ekstra ordanary from them.

This round i bet my money on ryzen 9 3950X and also what just had been said about zen 3, ryzen 4000 cut also be a interesting choise to upgrade later to maybe with IPC gain of 15 % according to amd them self and if that is true, they are gonna be pretty darn close to intels 10 nm claimed 18 % IPC gain as well.

No doubt this round amd line up just seems more appealing to me. Cheaper, less power hungry, cheaper boards/memory config and 3950X seems to be a really good all around cpu for people that games and editing, making animation and so on.
AMD is definitely the way forward for price and performance ratio :) I can't see why you'd go any other way...

The CPU battle side of things are going nicely, we have some competition from both sides, which is only going to benefit us in the end :)
 
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Anand is postponing their 10 series review to match review embargo of TR3. This way you get to see a massacre in a single review.
Mad respect for Anand.
Guru3d will update the charts


when the TR's time comes.
 
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Looks like there will be 3 different new HEDT entries

1. These new Cascade Lake based PCs with CPUs not over $1000
2. AMD TR3 with CPUS starting at $1400
3. AMD TR2 with CPUs starting at $149

The 3900X and 3950X (even though the core count is high) are still considered by me as being regular desktop parts as they are on X570.
 
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Looks like there will be 3 different new HEDT entries

1. These new Cascade Lake based PCs with CPUs not over $1000
2. AMD TR3 with CPUS starting at $1400
3. AMD TR2 with CPUs starting at $149

The 3900X and 3950X (even though the core count is high) are still considered by me as being regular desktop parts as they are on X570.
The 3900x and 3950x are desktop parts despite the core count. Does the TR2 price really start from $149? That's crazy :O.
 
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Since connectivity is another thing, that's why things don't always boil down to cores and clocks. Some users may need what X299 \ X399 \ TRX40 has to offer over Z390 \ X570
 
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This massacre is basically unseen, sure it's "that many" cores but I fail to remember the last time a new product beat the competitor's by this wide a margin across the board even with Conroe or K8 :nutkick:

P.S. don't recall the exact reviews from back then, so don't quote me on that :p
 
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I think Linus hit the nail on the head. We see this BS all the time with many products, hardware and software. Microsoft is a perfect example.

The engineers and developers do a great job of developing the product. Then the marketing weenies and clueless executives get their grubby paws in the mix and ruin the reputation of the developers and pi$$ off the consumers. Its like when MBAs and lawyers start running hospitals. What happens? Patient care is put on the back burner.

What engineering experience does the current Intel CEO, Robert Swan have? Nada! :(
 
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In some cases it is, in some it isn't, I'd say the 3950x is on par with it.

Also let's not forget TR3.
 
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Already have. Just finished actually. I felt had, like AMD were beating the special kid up.

Intel fanboys are like
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It's going to be a rough 2020 for the Intel.
 
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AMD is definitely the way forward for price and performance ratio :) I can't see why you'd go any other way...

The CPU battle side of things are going nicely, we have some competition from both sides, which is only going to benefit us in the end :)

Yeah no doubt there and I also just made an order for a Ryzen 9 3950X. It's time to move on from X58 as well.
 
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You are joking right? 3950X is half the price being equal in performance and having PCI-E 4.0 when including board and RAM price and the TR4 platform paves over Intel, while not being much more expensive.

Update: Even gaming is a field that new TR4 CPUs have leading performace or on par with 9900K as one can see in the video below

 
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3950x is better all around choice obviously. But for certain use cases, and if you are willing to overlook overcomeable shortcomings such as thermals etc. the Intel x299 platform is superior. What it boils down to is that the choice is between consumer platform amd/intel, HEDT platform Intel, or workstation platform AMD.

Fanbois on both sides don't help clarify things. Hurr durr AMD good Intel Bad or Hurr Durr Intel Fast AMD slow are just moronic oversimplifications of a changing dynamic.
 
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Somewhere though, i really wish it would be even cheaper, -100$ extra to get it to 899$ would have sweetened the deal for some that are seeking a CPU for certain tasks that the 10980XE do good.
Lol. Is this a bot?
Usually I don't read multi page threads and just skip to the last page but somehow reading this 2 page thread wholly gave me this gem. Copy paste of part of @dj-electric's comment.
 
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