Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT Nitro+ Special Edition

[notb]

You're not wrong, but I have issues with that statement.

What sort of real-world situation would mean someone can only choose from AMD cards?

Fanboys / Nvidia haters.

Outside of personal boycotts and delusions of loyalty in a multi-billion dollar cutthroat duopoly, I can't think of one.

You'd be amazed how many people like that exist.
And how small the market for such cards is.

Lets do some fun estimation:
Lets say that:
- ~50 mln PC graphics cards are sold yearly (so without workstation/server stuff)
- 5700XT will be sold for a year.
- it's share among GPUs will be equal to the current figure in Steam Survey (0.16%)
- half of 5700XT sold will be expensive high-end, high-OC models that make no sense (compared to Nvidia's alternatives)

We get 40000 as a (very) rough estimator of how many high-spending, Nvidia-hating gamers we need to sell that many cards. Globally.
EASILY.

 

[Anymal]

Around 2012 I believe. Another question, how many rebrands GCN 1.0 has seen

It was commercialy introduced with release of 7970 card in the end of 2011. GCN ended with Vega VII in 2019. Wizzard keeps writing around 2013, only he knows why.

 

[Thuban]

It was commercialy introduced with release of 7970 card in the end of 2011. GCN ended with Vega VII in 2019. Wizzard keeps writing around 2013, only he knows why.

Thanks for pointing that out.

A bit off topic. Now GCN has aged pretty well... 390x 8gb beating 980 ti 6gb @ 1440 medium settings. Nearly on par with GTX 1070 8GB. Looks like, Nvidia is only great for ~3 years and then performance tanks. Next-gen consoles powered by AMD hardware is likely to further cement the difference. Let's hope AMD can improve with power efficiency on their next big card. Lately, they have been struggling with that. And yeah, I'd put a ban hammer on inefficient, high-power small-return card designs like the one featured in the article. Sometimes, you must make bold moves like that. Too much freedom is never a good thing.

P.S. Still a good time to buy some AMD stock.

 

[kings]

A bit off topic. Now GCN has aged pretty well... 390x 8gb beating 980 ti 6gb @ 1440 medium settings. Nearly on par with GTX 1070 8GB. Looks like, Nvidia is only great for ~3 years and then performance tanks. Next-gen consoles powered by AMD hardware is likely to further cement the difference. Let's hope AMD can improve with power efficiency on their next big card. Lately, they have been struggling with that. And yeah, I'd put a ban hammer on inefficient, high-power small-return card designs like the one featured in the article. Sometimes, you must make bold moves like that. Too much freedom is never a good thing.

Cherry picking goes both ways.

Look at Anno 1800 for example, with 980Ti almost on the same level of Vega 64, GTX 970 faster than RX 580 and GTX 1060 faster than RX 590.

Some titles favor one brand more than another, it has always been that way. Taking a specific case and applying it generally doesn´t make much sense.

Anno 1800: PC graphics performance benchmark review

We take a look at Anno 1800 (2019) in our usual in-depth ways. That would be tested on the PC gaming wise relative towards graphics card performance with the latest AMD/NVIDIA graphics card drivers....

www.guru3d.com

Make the fastest AMD card available. And they did it, right?

If that is the goal, then yes. Given that Sapphire is stuck with AMD, that's probably the best they can aim, given that limitation.

 

[Mouth of Sauron]

Great review and that cooling solution rules!

But one thing bothers me for years - why the hell is Civ6 on the games list? Game is treated as a garbage by series fans (me included), has no graphic to be amazed by and generally what the hell is turn-based strategy looking for among the other titles. Yes, I don't play most or any of those others too - but I understand why they are there. What has Civ6 to offer? Some, ultimately unneeded world animations between turns? IF they find those slow, real players just turn them off, completely. What I'm trying to say is that nobody will invest in GPU to make Civ6 running in more FPS...

 

[Assimilator]

$30 for blingy fans, and yet there are people stupid enough to buy this. Sapphire sure knows its target market.

@W1zzard I don't get why you list 7nm as a plus, it's not about the node size it's what you do with it - as NVIDIA can attest.

 

[fancucker]

Greater power consumption than a 2080 ti, with lower performance than a 2070 Super, and on a new node! A slam dunk from AMD

 

[AlienIsGOD]

Fanboys / Nvidia haters.

So because I beta test I'm a fanboy? Lol. Some ppl just like AMD such as myself. I've had a gtx 680 in the past and it was a fine card, but my wallet prefers AMD these days.

 

[eidairaman1]

I also noted I'm a vanguard member hence needing AMD cards. It has nothing to do with as you put it "superiority". Going by your thinking AMD shouldn't even be in business. You can't sit here and say nobody should buy AMD. People will choose what they want with their own reasoning, not because some blow hard is convinced nvidia is superior in ANY situation. You kind of look foolish boasting about nvidia and calling ppl fanbois or irrational. Chill the fuck out

Just put him on ignore, he trolls and flame baits every AMD related topic.

 

[Ahhzz]

There's a lot of unnecessary responses in this thread. Those who can, clean up your own posts before another mod comes in with points for those left.
Keep it on topic, don't post personal attacks at those with different opinions, and re-read the guidelines if needed. Answer of last resort to the question "What do I do??!!" : Don't be a Dick.

 

[AlienIsGOD]

There's a lot of unnecessary responses in this thread. Those who can, clean up your own posts before another mod comes in with points for those left.
Keep it on topic, don't post personal attacks at those with different opinions, and re-read the guidelines if needed. Answer of last resort to the question "What do I do??!!" : Don't be a Dick.

Sorry, I do treat others as they treat me so... I don't take to being called names and such by a troll poster who does nothing but crap in AMD threads

 

[Ravenas]

They told me they don't enough samples

What about the 3950x?

 

[Anymal]

Mr. H from guru3d should help.

 

[Obnaa]

"It looks like Sapphire has definitely been binning the best GPUs for their Special Edition."

"It looks like" and "definitely" are contradictory. Has Sapphire stated this?

 

[HenrySomeone]

What a power-hog! And an expensive one at that as well! Just goes to show - you can't polish a turd, or at best, only so far...

 

[W1zzard]

Soon

 

[AAtte]

What was the power consumption with the silent bios?

 

[Camper7]

Why put this on conclusion: No hardware-accelerated raytracing
No AMD board has it. Are the tester an Nvidia fanboy?

 

[Anymal]

No, but RT is a feature and future, nvidia is on board since 2018. As in good old days cons for gpus without 2d or without T&L or in 2003 9700 with dx9 support and none of geforces had it.

 

[Struck3r]

Just got this card for 380 euros on discount. Its just great. Don't really mind the consumption, its quiet, its good looking, and its fast. Had no problems with drivers, and as far as Iam concerned, its a well worthy upgrade over my former 1070 GTX. I would really like to point out how much Ive been impressed with how well image sharpening works. Don't know if Nvidia has something similar, but if it doesn't it needs to get it as soon as possible. Considering the lowest RTX 2070 Super is 500 euros in my country, and is the only Nvidia card that is on par more or less with RX 5700 XT, I couldn't afford it. Even tho I wouldn't mind giving RT a chance, but for 120 euros... Man, thats a hefty premium.

 

[Anymal]

Any driver issues? Report after 1 month.

 

[Ravenas]

Trying to decide between this and the VII...

 

[eidairaman1]

Trying to decide between this and the VII...

Go for the Navi, VII is gcn and ive seen a few viis exhibit code 43s recently (hardware fault)

 

[Ravenas]

Go for the Navi, VII is gcn and ive seen a few viis exhibit code 43s recently (hardware fault)

Both cards have roughly the same performance, however, with 16 gb of ram I feel I will be more future proof. Hardware faults aside.

 

[eidairaman1]

Both cards have roughly the same performance, however, with 16 gb of ram I feel I will be more future proof. Hardware faults aside.

Not really GCN arch is being phased out.