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Flashing Radeon RX 5700 with RX 5700 XT BIOS: Guide & Performance

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So is flashing to XT worth it?
 
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So is flashing to XT worth it?
So far, from my experience, yes.

Reference card you will need the rpm set to at least 3000rpm to keep the temps in check...or water cooling. (Which I have done)

Or an AIB card with good cooling.

I'll post a 3d mark score just as an indication for what the performance can be compared to.

Edit: that's with an overclock.

 
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Can't see why it wouldn't be, even as just an experiment to work out where your silicon limits are. I'm in the position of having an XT and wanting better power-efficiency but there must be plenty of people with 5700 who want the best performance/$ and don't particularly care about noise/heat/power. If you're one of those people, hell yeah! Flash until the cows come home.
 
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So is flashing to XT worth it?

What resolution do you play at? Do you have a monitor that is 144/165/240hz? If you're only playing at 1080p 60hz, then it's really not necessary. My partners PC that I just put a 5700 in runs 1080p 144hz and I settled with just leaving it as a stock 5700 with an undervolt; the 7-10% performance increase was not worth the power, heat, and noise increases (mind you this is on a reference 5700 with blower). As a stock 5700 at 930mv on the core (still playing with it to determine maximum undervolt), it maintains stock max clocks without the fan ever being audible over ambient noises in the room and still does really well in terms of frame rates.

Now, if you just want to do it to say you can/did, and you don't care about the increase power, heat, and noise levels, then by all means go for it; tweaking is always fun, and this is a very easy/quick procedure with the ability to roll back if you feel like it.
 

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What resolution do you play at? Do you have a monitor that is 144/165/240hz? If you're only playing at 1080p 60hz, then it's really not necessary. My partners PC that I just put a 5700 in runs 1080p 144hz and I settled with just leaving it as a stock 5700 with an undervolt; the 7-10% performance increase was not worth the power, heat, and noise increases (mind you this is on a reference 5700 with blower). As a stock 5700 at 930mv on the core (still playing with it to determine maximum undervolt), it maintains stock max clocks without the fan ever being audible over ambient noises in the room and still does really well in terms of frame rates.

Now, if you just want to do it to say you can/did, and you don't care about the increase power, heat, and noise levels, then by all means go for it; tweaking is always fun, and this is a very easy/quick procedure with the ability to roll back if you feel like it.

Glad to know I can roll back. I will have to test it and see. I am not a fan of increased noise and heat. As we all know, increased heat means decreased effeciency and a shorter lifespan. I play at 3440x1440 @ 144hz but mostly titles that are not graphics instensive with the current exception of The Division 2. Currently CPU limited but going to remedy that shortly. After that I will see if it is worth it to flash.
 
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So far, from my experience, yes.

Reference card you will need the rpm set to at least 3000rpm to keep the temps in check...or water cooling. (Which I have done)

Or an AIB card with good cooling.

I'll post a 3d mark score just as an indication for what the performance can be compared to.

Edit: that's with an overclock.

Hey, did you flashed it with the regular XT bios or the Anniversary XT bios?

I'm about to do this also, but if I can flash it to the Aniv XT bios that would be sweet..
 
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Hey, did you flashed it with the regular XT bios or the Anniversary XT bios?

I'm about to do this also, but if I can flash it to the Aniv XT bios that would be sweet..
Yes, I just used the anniversary bios. Working fine so far.

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I've had a few people pm me about my setup. It's just a thermaltake matx case, with 3 radiators I had spare, a jank hollowed out AIO CPU block and what you see in the pics.
This PC was made to basically fill a spot in the TV cabinet, with a manual fan controller set for silence.

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Hey guys,
i have done this too, flashed a Powercolor 5700XT Red Dragon bios onto my PC 5700 Red Dragon and the bios works as intended, with the obivous downsides of a more aggressive fan curve and higher powerdraw and heat.

My problem; i need to go back to stock, but i cannot for the life of me get to do a second flash. No matter what i do or which bios i use, i always get the "ROM not erased" error message. I have opened a thread here.


Has anyone actually tried going back to stock after flashing an XT bios onto a 5700 card? Would anyone be so kind and willing to give this a shot...ehrm, for science sake and my sanity:)?
 

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Hey guys,
i have done this too, flashed a Powercolor 5700XT Red Dragon bios onto my PC 5700 Red Dragon and the bios works as intended, with the obivous downsides of a more aggressive fan curve and higher powerdraw and heat.

My problem; i need to go back to stock, but i cannot for the life of me get to do a second flash. No matter what i do or which bios i use, i always get the "ROM not erased" error message. I have opened a thread here.


Has anyone actually tried going back to stock after flashing an XT bios onto a 5700 card? Would anyone be so kind and willing to give this a shot...ehrm, for science sake and my sanity:)?
Hi! I am in the same situation that you are in. I also have a 5700 Red Dragon and I have flashed to the XT and flashed back to stock multiple times. The first question I have is did you flash on the OC Bios or Silent? (I could only get the silent bios setting to flash to the XT). Did you update both bios to the updated stocks from powercolor before you started the flashing? The GUI on ATI flash did not work for me and I had to use the bat files instead.
 

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Hey, thanks for jumping in here, much appreciated. So, i did not touch the silent bios at all. I flashed the factory default OC bios to the Red Dragon XT default bios. Here is a bit mor detail on what things i already tried.


Whats your assumption; you think the OC default bios is usually write protected and cannot be overwritten no matter what atiflash commands one uses? And i my case, this write protection might not have kicked in properly on the first attempt and thus i could flash the XT bios over it?

Question to you: have you and could you flash a NON XT bios to both the OC and Silent bios on your card, and flash both multiple times and be able to go back to stock in each? Or is your OC bios write locked now as well?

I have not yet tried the bat file method, but i don't see any bat files with the amd/atiflash_293 download files. Where di you get those, and would this even make a difference? The bat files use the same exe files and commands, do they not?

I am about to send this card back to the retailer (actually was in the process of packing it up for shipment when i saw your message) because of the faulty fans, else i kept this card anyway. But this noise is driving me nuts. I'd give a the bat file route a try if you could point me the way please.

BTW, is Powercolor officially providing updated bios files anyplace? Or do they infact expect if anything is wrong with a bios that everyone rmas each and every card? Do they offer some other flash tool maybe?
 
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Hey guys,
i have done this too, flashed a Powercolor 5700XT Red Dragon bios onto my PC 5700 Red Dragon and the bios works as intended, with the obivous downsides of a more aggressive fan curve and higher powerdraw and heat.

My problem; i need to go back to stock, but i cannot for the life of me get to do a second flash. No matter what i do or which bios i use, i always get the "ROM not erased" error message. I have opened a thread here.


Has anyone actually tried going back to stock after flashing an XT bios onto a 5700 card? Would anyone be so kind and willing to give this a shot...ehrm, for science sake and my sanity:)?


I bought a reference style 5700 (XFX) and have flashed to 5700 XT and back to normal 3 times with no issues. It may be something specific to the Powercolor card.
 

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yep, thats what i think. I believe it has something to do with the OC default bios that is somehow protected. I didn't know about write protection on vbioses beforehand, i believed no matter what, as long as you have an igp or second gpu you could always flash whater 01010101010101 you wanted on that flash memory. Obviously it is in anycase always a risky endevour. Anyway, the card goes back and thats that then.
 

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yep, thats what i think. I believe it has something to do with the OC default bios that is somehow protected. I didn't know about write protection on vbioses beforehand, i believed no matter what, as long as you have an igp or second gpu you could always flash whater 01010101010101 you wanted on that flash memory. Obviously it is in anycase always a risky endevour. Anyway, the card goes back and thats that then.
Here is the link I used for flashing the card using the BAT files. You have to create them yourself. https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/czhux1
To provide some more information on the issue about the updated bios from powercolor. I bought my card through newegg when they had the card in stock for only a few hours and then it was taken off the site as far as I know (just to give some context). While waiting on the card to come in, gamers nexus made a excellent review of the card and they noted a issue with the bios the card shipped from the factory with. The default (OC) bios and (Silent) bios had an issue with the fan curve being set way to high (2000 rpm). So powercolor released an update for the OC and Silent bios to fix the issue. I updated each one respectively before I began testing with the XT bios flashes. So..this brings up to your position. I believe the default bios that shipped with the card was unlocked and allowed for flashing and the Updated bios was locked. This would explain why i was unable to flash the Default (OC) bios with and XT variant.

But I believe that there may be hope!! Please follow the post I linked and setup the BAT files. Try with your backups and then try these two from the bios backup bank on this site.

This is the original BIOS that came on the card (note the RPM) https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/213814/powercolor-rx5700-8192-190813-1

This is the updated performance BIOS (lower RPM and it states it under the specs) https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/213814/powercolor-rx5700-8192-190813-1
Updated Silent BIOS https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/213815/powercolor-rx5700-8192-190813

I hope that this helps you! It is really a great card. I just believe powercolor dropped the ball heavily with the bios the card shipped with.
 

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Dude, your write up is very much appreciated. And the context you gave makes a lot of sense and is likely a very good explanation of how i got into that predicament. Just for the record, i send the card off to the retailer one hour ago, but, the things you suggest i try i did try in abundance already, but thanks for typing it up anyway.

And you already gave the explanation why i ran into that damend write lock and you didn't. I did not first flash the updated 5700 oc bios and then flashed again with the 5700xt default bios. I went straight to the XT since i had spent 3 days already on trying to find out why that card was more often than not not starting the fans and reachign 100c+. So i wanted to see what the XT bios was like assuming i could go back easiyl to my backup. So, in all likelyhood you are correct and the faulty 2000rpm/fans don't spin-up at all half the time factory bios was not write protected and thus i could flash the XT bios on the 5700 default OC bios. The XT default bios on the otherhand in all likelyhood was write protected from the beginning, thus i could not flash one damned second time on this one. I call that damend unlucky i guess. And the worst part....i actually rather prefer my card cool and quiet and if i can choose i'd rather go with the 5700 silent bios isnteand of the 5700XT OC bios.

Anyway, i consider this mystery solved, though i'd really like to understand how a vbios flash memory module can become write protected by purely flashing a new bios on it. From a hdd or ssd perspective, you assume that you can override anything by formatting, putting a new filsystem on it and writing new data afterwards. So i am not clear why this is not possible with amd/atiflash. Unless the program is purposefully build that way and the only hardway of doing it is by going full on SPI flashing that chip.

Concerning the bat files you linked on reddit. The codein side those bat files contains excatly the usual atiflash commands i haved used over and over again. So i doubt very much that doing it via bat would have made any difference.

Concluding; you did it right by first flashing the updated 5700 OC bios and by doing so write locking that bios position. I write locked the OC bios position by flashing the current XT OC bios.

And i wonder, can you actually flash anything at all to the OC postion now? You said you cannot flash the XT OC bios on there, only on the silent bios position. Can you either flash the old 5700 factory default OC or the old or new silent bios on the default OC position, now that it apparently has bevcome write locked?


ONE more thing: @yamahaboy22 Do you want to try and dance with the (Red) Devil and try to flash the "XT performance bios" on the silent bios position? :) I assume you flashed the 5700XT silent bios on the silent bios position of your card, right? Because that way we would finally find out whether this write lock business is really about the bios code only, or whether there is some hardware difference between vbios 1 and 2 positions. But if you try this...thats on your own risk, because if this damned write lock is really only softwarebased, chances are good that you lock you silent bios position with the XT performance bios.
 
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Dude, your write up is very much appreciated. And the context you gave makes a lot of sense and is likely a very good explanation of how i got into that predicament. Just for the record, i send the card off to the retailer one hour ago, but, the things you suggest i try i did try in abundance already, but thanks for typing it up anyway.

And you already gave the explanation why i ran into that damend write lock and you didn't. I did not first flash the updated 5700 oc bios and then flashed again with the 5700xt default bios. I went straight to the XT since i had spent 3 days already on trying to find out why that card was more often than not not starting the fans and reachign 100c+. So i wanted to see what the XT bios was like assuming i could go back easiyl to my backup. So, in all likelyhood you are correct and the faulty 2000rpm/fans don't spin-up at all half the time factory bios was not write protected and thus i could flash the XT bios on the 5700 default OC bios. The XT default bios on the otherhand in all likelyhood was write protected from the beginning, thus i could not flash one damned second time on this one. I call that damend unlucky i guess. And the worst part....i actually rather prefer my card cool and quiet and if i can choose i'd rather go with the 5700 silent bios isnteand of the 5700XT OC bios.

Anyway, i consider this mystery solved, though i'd really like to understand how a vbios flash memory module can become write protected by purely flashing a new bios on it. From a hdd or ssd perspective, you assume that you can override anything by formatting, putting a new filsystem on it and writing new data afterwards. So i am not clear why this is not possible with amd/atiflash. Unless the program is purposefully build that way and the only hardway of doing it is by going full on SPI flashing that chip.

Concerning the bat files you linked on reddit. The codein side those bat files contains excatly the usual atiflash commands i haved used over and over again. So i doubt very much that doing it via bat would have made any difference.

Concluding; you did it right by first flashing the updated 5700 OC bios and by doing so write locking that bios position. I write locked the OC bios position by flashing the current XT OC bios.

And i wonder, can you actually flash anything at all to the OC postion now? You said you cannot flash the XT OC bios on there, only on the silent bios position. Can you either flash the old 5700 factory default OC or the old or new silent bios on the default OC position, now that it apparently has bevcome write locked?


ONE more thing: @yamahaboy22 Do you want to try and dance with the (Red) Devil and try to flash the "XT performance bios" on the silent bios position? :) I assume you flashed the 5700XT silent bios on the silent bios position of your card, right? Because that way we would finally find out whether this write lock business is really about the bios code only, or whether there is some hardware difference between vbios 1 and 2 positions. But if you try this...thats on your own risk, because if this damned write lock is really only softwarebased, chances are good that you lock you silent bios position with the XT performance bios.
Thanks for the feedback! I'm glad I was able to help you with this issue. I have flashed both OC and Silent XT bios on the silent position with varying results. The OC XT bios gave the only real gains in performance with the Silent XT being the same as a mild OC on the stock silent bios. I have my card undervolted to 1000mv @1810 Mhz and it runs only slightly higher than stock. It must lock the OC bios when you flash it from stock and leave the Silent open to be flashed to safeguard the issue you encountered. If you don't mind me asking. Did you just get the card swapped out or refund?
Thanks again!
 

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With retailer i meant send it back via post to the online store i usually order hardware. So judgment on what happens is still out :). And i opted for a new replacement card directly from the retailer. The card i send back had fans making a incredibly annoying sing-sang mosquito noise that did not resolve itself after a couple of days. But with properly working fans, this card must can be incredibly silent and powerful.
On the otherhand, i invested so much time, hair and effort into getting this card in to a working state where i would not have to fear if overheated or doing annoying fancirve things....that'll be hopefully worth something if the worst comes and the card is being send of to Powercolor, they nose up about the XT bios. And hell, after playing aroudn with various settings on the card in wattman, i ended up liking the silent bios undervolted the most! 140 - 150 watts vs 190-220 watts for 5-10 fps more and a lout, hot card pushing 1.2 volts constantly? Not really an enticing option in the end.

Anyway, that was unlucky and a bit foolish and i did my part and i will see what comes of it.

Ah, and how is the sound profile of your card? Does is only have the usual swoosh/hiss noise over allthe rpm range, or do you hear some tonal resonances at various rpm stages?
 
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I hope your new card is much better than the one you sent out for RMA. Overall, my card has been a very pleasant experience. With the default BIOS the fans would range from 1000-1500 under load. I did not notice any out of the ordinary noises from the card other than the sound from the air on the fan blades. For me, at around 1400-1500 the card becomes audible and is a little much for me (I'm coming from a 1060 gaming x that was silent). The silent option is great! I cannot tell a difference between 0 and the max of 1200. It tends to stay at 1200 for the most part during gaming. The card is a beast and easily on of the best 5700 models for the price!
 

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Sounds good. And thats why i against better judgment optend for a replacement card. God i have never ever fought so hard to get a proper gpu. Its insance how much time and effort i wasted on getting this damned thing to work. And in the end it still needs to go back because the fans were faulty. And the way the fans seem to be hooked to the card, you cannot even exchange them without pulling the entire cooler off. I just hope that the retailer send me a new factory sealed card with working fans and then i shall have peace of mind and go back to actually playing or doing whatever...but not trying to fix things the producer or amd with there drivers left waning :)

Anyway, i will definetly report back once i know how things pan out and of course when the new or repaired card arrives.
 

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Awesome man! Who knows they may have fix some of the other driver issues by when you receive your new card :)
 
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I forgot about this thread xD, I ended up getting a Sapphire Pulse RX 5700 and flashing it to XT bios, which unlocks voltage & higher OCing, but more importantly prevents power limit throttling, flashed to the Pulse XT bios the little RX 5700 cooler is down 2 heatpipes & cant handle the 2000mhz OC very well, it still performs under a RX 5700 XT in benchmarks, but I believe it comes close to stock RX 5700 XT performance in actual gaming,,, & can run stock RX 5700 XT speeds stable with nothing but an aggressive fan profile.

Though temps are a bit too uncomfortable for me, I took a stock run with the XT pulse bios and the fan speed ramped up just to show how it performs without any tweaking;
basically a 10fps gain in Unigine heaven over stock, with a nice core boost. You can see the temps are similar to a poor AIB XT under load. Click next on the imgr pic to see the XT bios result.

Now, given temps & voltages are high compared to the XT with it's extra cores,, we can obviously undervolt a bit to bring everything into check;
So.. If you like to mess around with wattman and have nothing better to do, I'd say it's definitely worth it.

My own plan is to throw a xtreme IV(installed properly) & shoot for ~2100mhz -24/7, the total cost will be slightly under a AIB RX 5700 XT, but I'm guessing I'll end up with better overall temps. Cooler should arrive any day now. I saw some YT vids indicating it wont cool the memory//VRM properly, but I beg to differ as I've seen some people get great results with the xtreme IV, so I believe it comes down to installation method, aftering seeing the PCB layout & having installed one on my old GTX 1070 Ti, I think it'll turn out alright as long as the 2 memory ICs encroaching the CPU area arent left bare & have at least some TIM on em along with getting the mounting pressure 'just right' & actually checking TIM spread & contact pressure before fully installing.
 
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I bought an XFX reference 5700 and I'm really interested in performing this bios update to the 5700 XT. It sounds like that should be fine from reading this forum and guide. However, I read that a lot of people have flashed the bios to the 5700 XT and then back to the 5700 'several times'. My question is why? If the 5700 XT bios is completely stable and the temps are staying within acceptable limits for the card, why not just leave it as the 5700 XT bios? Personally I do not like to continuously tweak my PC, so if I do this bios update I want it to be a permanent boost and not have to constantly worry about stability or crashes. The guide seems to make it sound like as long as the bios update occurs with no hiccups, that I should just be able to forget about it and never look back.

Can someone tell me if this bios update is stable enough to be a permanent solution for a nice boost, or if it has stability problems? I will just leave it alone if this is something that is going to constantly cause me problems.

I bought a reference style 5700 (XFX) and have flashed to 5700 XT and back to normal 3 times with no issues. It may be something specific to the Powercolor card.
I have the same card and I'm interested in why you flashed back and forth. I want to do this update, but I'm really only interested in flashing one time permanently. Did you find the card too hot or unstable to leave it with the 5700 XT bios permanently?
 

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Be sure if you do flash the XT bios, to only do it on the SILENT BIOS position. Chances are high you might be unlucky and "write lock" the default OC bios by flashing on that position.

BUT; at any rate, there really is no need to flash an XT bios to your card! The 'More Power Tools' allow you to do any changes to the card you like without the need to flash or update those settings everytime you updtea your gpu drives. The MPTs write to the windows registry from which the amd radeon drivers read the settings for Wattman on windows boot up. You pretty much unlock all Wattman settings, just like you had an XT variant installed. Actually, this method gives you more Wattman options and control than simply flashing a hopefully fitting XT bios.

 

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Be sure if you do flash the XT bios, to only do it on the SILENT BIOS position. Chances are high you might be unlucky and "write lock" the default OC bios by flashing on that position.

BUT; at any rate, there really is no need to flash an XT bios to your card! The 'More Power Tools' allow you to do any changes to the card you like without the need to flash or update those settings everytime you updtea your gpu drives. The MPTs write to the windows registry from which the amd radeon drivers read the settings for Wattman on windows boot up. You pretty much unlock all Wattman settings, just like you had an XT variant installed. Actually, this method gives you more Wattman options and control than simply flashing a hopefully fitting XT bios.


This software method is my preferred choice if at all possible, just couple questions if you don't mind?
- Do you not have to re-do the software PMT 'flash' each time you update the drivers? Not a show-stopper, just a bit of a faff.
- Do you need to manually change the registry at all? Seen some guides that require it, but I guess PMT may be now able to do this automatically
- Does this guide still apply or additional steps reqd? Seems pretty straightforward: https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/radeon-rx-5700-unlock-overclock-undervolt

Thanks v much, in the market for a new 5700 in the sales. Cheers.
 
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