This is a thing. Liquid cooling, without any chance of mess..

[moproblems99]

There is a reason why serious water cooling enthusiasts exhaust heat from radiators outside the system case.

That doesn't necessarily matter if you are completely blocked as the the internal case temperature isn't as important as if you still had a bunch of air coolers in there. That said, my rads are exhaust.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

There is a reason why serious water cooling enthusiasts exhaust heat from radiators outside the system case.

this thinking is a little outdated. So long as you positive airflow - i.e more fans pulling air into the case than pushing out. It takes very little effort to move heat from inside the case so long as there is good airflow.

Some people mount their radiator at the front of the case so air passes through the radiator before it gets inside the case. So long as the ambient air is cooler it shouldnt be a real problem.

 

[Vario]

Looks like a good way to bend your motherboard.

 

[xtreemchaos]

its the biggest cooler ive ever seen apart from them funny copper passive thingyes, agreed it would need some sort of support in a tower or warping on the m/b could be on the cards.

 

[HTC]

How long you dudes figure until they release a GPU version?

 

[SL2]

The comments here gives me more questions than the actual product.

Not impressed? It beats a 360 AIO that's obviously larger, what do you expect for $120? Why comparing to custom water at that price?

Bend the board? In that case you shouldn't be using a Noctua D15 either, it's larger and have larger fans, and yes, worse performance.

Did you watch the video? It's a prototype, and you can see the next version pictured. Overall it's smaller than many dual tower coolers.

 

[EarthDog]

Noctua D15 either, it's larger and have larger fans, and yes, worse performance.

Size doesn't matter much here... which one weighs more?

This looks to be larger than most dual stack air coolers... at least when talking width.

 

[SL2]

Size doesn't matter much here... which one weighs more?

AND height. You know, torque.

This looks to be larger than most dual stack air coolers... at least when talking width.

Dunno about that. The cooling volume(?) is 30 x 120 x 240. The D15 is not smaller than that. Width won't affect the torque.

 

[E-curbi]

Still waiting for this Noctua prototype to launch, and knowing Noctua's track record with prototypes, I might be using a walker and/or wearing fat clunky NewBalance stability shoes before that happens.

Still, will be so awesome to mount this fanless 1.5kg cooler on a horizontal mobo, adding a 140mm industrial fan - tuned way down into the range of inaudibility (700rpms).

Even moving a small volume of air might double it's heat dissipation.


It's size also appears a bit more manageable than the Thermosiphon. lol

 

[SL2]

[QUOTE="E-curbi, post: 4172192, member: 179827"
It's size also appears a bit more manageable than the Thermosiphon. lol
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That Noctua is larger, for sure (not counting the prototype in the OP).
Also, the Noctua won't beat a 360 rad. It might be able to run >100 W CPU's without a fan, but that doesn't mean you can scale it above 350 W just by adding fans.
You simply need all that mass and widely spaced fins to be able to cool a hot running CPU without a fan.

 

[EarthDog]

AND height. You know, torque.

Dunno about that. The cooling volume(?) is 30 x 120 x 240. The D15 is not smaller than that. Width won't affect the torque.

Height.. indeed. They both appear to stick out from the motherboard about the same distance.. with this 'thing' seemingly heavier, I would worry more about it than a D15.

D15 is notably smaller, no? D15 = 165 x 150 x 160(mm W x H x D). This thing is at least 240mm wide x 165mm tall x 140mm+ depth. So, it is larger on the width measurement and likely similar in height. Did you see the video? YOu can see just how much larger that one is compared to the D15 quite easily and walk away with the concept that what was used is clearly larger.

 

[mouacyk]

this thinking is a little outdated. So long as you positive airflow - i.e more fans pulling air into the case than pushing out. It takes very little effort to move heat from inside the case so long as there is good airflow.

Some people mount their radiator at the front of the case so air passes through the radiator before it gets inside the case. So long as the ambient air is cooler it shouldnt be a real problem.

If power delivery was trending downward, it would be outdated. With core-count and clocks rising (as they should), power delivery is continuing to increase, putting ever more stress on the VRMs. These never get the cooling attention they need. Nowadays, even RAM (B-die) is also sensitive to ambient temperatures and start flipping bits above 45C.

This thing really just needs support brackets to tether it to the case to distribute the tension from the motherboard socket. It will be interesting to see how far they can go in miniaturizing this thing for future revisions.

 

[E-curbi]

[QUOTE="E-curbi, post: 4172192, member: 179827"
It's size also appears a bit more manageable than the Thermosiphon. lol

That Noctua is larger, for sure (not counting the prototype in the OP).
Also, the Noctua won't beat a 360 rad. It might be able to run >100 W CPU's without a fan, but that doesn't mean you can scale it above 350 W just by adding fans.
You simply need all that mass and widely spaced fins to be able to cool a hot running CPU without a fan.
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not certain why the quotes above gots all messed up. lol



Running an open air test bench so might be able to mount the Thermosiphon without issue, although unlike most test benches mine has a rear panel to contend with, so who knows.

Either cooler would not be adding any additional downward vector forces since my mobo lays flat aligned in harmony with the planet's horizon. lol - always wanted to say that.

 

[SL2]

Height.. indeed. They both appear to stick out from the motherboard about the same distance.. with this 'thing' seemingly heavier, I would worry more about it than a D15.

D15 is notably smaller, no? D15 = 165 x 150 x 160(mm W x H x D). This thing is at least 240mm wide x 165mm tall x 140mm+ depth. So, it is larger on the width measurement and likely similar in height. Did you see the video? YOu can see just how much larger that one is compared to the D15 quite easily and walk away with the concept that what was used is clearly larger.

That's a PROTOTYPE LOL. You can't buy that one.

See the pic in my previous post. Linus says the tower of the upcoming version is 30 mm deep, and you can clearly see that the cooling tower is about the same height as a 120 mm fan, and just a wee bit wider than 2 x 120 mm fans.

Having twin towers side by side (Icegiant), or in line (Noctua) makes just about no difference in terms of torque.

 

[EarthDog]

Having twin towers side by side (Icegiant), or in line (Noctua) makes just about no difference in terms of torque.

Right. But I mentioned weight. I could give 2 poos about the slight height difference (aware that the further away it is from the mount point the more pressure... but if it weighs a lot more.......). Again, until we know what it weighs, we'll go in circles. Either way, that thing is HUUUUUUUUUUGE.

 

[moproblems99]

You guys are clearly forgetting that it's wide, flat wingspan will have enough surface area to have a neutral y-axis force with a properly configured front-bottom to top-rear air flow.

In fact, it has such huge surface area that it may actually function like a sail and require tethering from the bottom of the case in order to prevent it from taking off inside the case and damaging whatever is above it.

 

[Ruru]

Nah, I've seen so many times when a new innovative cooling product comes, it's usually just a concept and it doesn't have any significant benefits. I'll stick with custom loop, though only for CPU for now.

 

[SL2]

Either way, that thing is HUUUUUUUUUUGE.

Well, we know it uses 120 mm fans so the width is maybe 244 mm wide, and we know the depth will be reduced from 103 to 30 mm. That's not huge to me.

I mean, put the two Noctua towers next to each other and you'll have a width of 300 mm.. that wouldn't affect its weight, obviously.

it's usually just a concept and it doesn't have any significant benefits.

Usually.

The benefits are known. A cooler with the size of a 240 AIO, with the performance of a 360 AIO, yet no moving parts except for the fans.

This is obviously not an alternative to custom water, nobody said so.

 

[Splinterdog]

The title, saying that water cooling is dead is, as others have said, simply clickbait.
The principle is interesting, but for its ridiculous size. I'll watch again when they've reduced the size down to a third and then see how effective it is.

 

[Deleted member 185158]

The title, saying that water cooling is dead is, as others have said, simply clickbait.
The principle is interesting, but for its ridiculous size. I'll watch again when they've reduced the size down to a third and then see how effective it is.

If it where copper.... It would be half the size and do a better job absorbing heat. Then you wouldnt need it that large.
Aluminum cold plate. Garbage.
2.00 worth of aluminim. Charges 110$.
Cant wait to see people getting ripped off. Good stuff.

 

[EarthDog]

Well, we know it uses 120 mm fans so the width is maybe 244 mm wide, and we know the depth will be reduced from 103 to 30 mm. That's not huge to me.

I mean, put the two Noctua towers next to each other and you'll have a width of 300 mm.. that wouldn't affect its weight, obviously.

A 240mm+ wide air heatsink isn't huge to you? Ok.

And not sure where the disconnect is coming (ESL?), but, you can't move Noctua towers and make them wider. The dimensions are what they are man... I mean, I can say to unfold the fin array inside this device and say it is larger... are you kidding me???? Listen, I am saying is that it is huge (it is), and likely pretty heavy. Come on now............

 

[xtreemchaos]

call me daft but when thay reduce it in size wont it likely reduce the cooling too? so it could be $110 for less of a products usefulness.

 

[Ruru]

A 240mm+ wide air heatsink isn't huge to you? Ok.

And not sure where the disconnect is coming, but, you can't move Noctua towers and make them wider. For pete's sake, all I am saying is that it is huge (it is), and likely pretty heavy. Come on now.............

Exactly. That thing is colossal when comparing to an AIO with 240x30 rad.

 

[EarthDog]

Exactly. That thing is colossal when comparing to an AIO with 240x30 rad.

Its similar when comparing it to that, the new smaller model. The difference is, that weight isn't attached to the socket area of a PCB, but mounted to the steel chassis of a case.

For all I know, it could be lighter than the 980g the D15 is and not matter.....

 

[SL2]

A 240mm+ wide air heatsink isn't huge to you? Ok.

You have to think a bit outside the box here. The fact that it's a air cooled heatsink doesn't matter IF the perfrormace is as good as they say.

And not sure where the disconnect is coming (ESL?), but, you can't move Noctua towers and make them wider. The dimensions are what they are man... I mean, I can say to unfold the fin array inside this device and say it is larger... are you kidding me???? Listen, I am saying is that it is huge (it is), and likely pretty heavy. Come on now............

I meant in theory. Imagine a Noctua twin tower with the two towers next to each other, that won't make it heavier, save for the slightly longer heatpipes.
Seen from above:

One is obviously wider, but that doesn't make it heavier, necessarily.