Intel Hires Former AMD GPU Silicon Executive

[notb]

So.... Intel is continuing to buy everything about AMD except the name by buying all their personnel. Not necessarily a bad plan for a company with near unlimited supply of money. But cannot legally right out buy their tiny rival even if their bank account could without blinking.

We have 2 companies making x86 CPUs on large scale and 3 working on high-power GPUs.

Where exactly is Intel going to find employees with needed experience? On Mars?

Some people here write stuff like if the only "reality" they had contact with was the second part of VR abbreviation.

Also, there's no proof that Intel runs an aggressive strategy of pulling people out of any competitor.
Maybe you're hoping to work in your current company for 50 years, but most people just change job from time to time. Where would an experienced AMD employee go next? To Walmart?

 

[Patriot]

Just like HBM was praised as the future of GPUs and AMD's great advantage.

It was till the memory manufactures decided to price fix again, they quadrupled the price between silicon spin and launch of product.

 

[Turmania]

I don't get and understand why there is so much turning a blind eye for AMD. You are great when you praise them but when you criticize them you are in most wanted list. Koduri was God before he joined Intel, now he is all the reason why AMD is 5 years behind Nvidia. I have my reservations about Koduri as well but I will wait until Intel releases their product to judge him.

 

[Vario]

We have 2 companies making x86 CPUs on large scale and 3 working on high-power GPUs.

Where exactly is Intel going to find employees with needed experience? On Mars?

Some people here write stuff like if the only "reality" they had contact with was the second part of VR abbreviation.

Also, there's no proof that Intel runs an aggressive strategy of pulling people out of any competitor.
Maybe you're hoping to work in your current company for 50 years, but most people just change job from time to time. Where would an experienced AMD employee go next? To Walmart?

Reading these forums is like reading a sports forum and everyone's speculating on the next NFL hire/draft pick for their favorite team/rival.

 

[erocker]

Funny how not so long ago Koduri was worshiped on this forum, but today his work is called "a mess".
Isn't Vega great anymore? What happened?

Just like HBM was praised as the future of GPUs and AMD's great advantage.

I don't recall Vega ever being "great" and I don't bother listening to forum fanboy's. IMO the last good cards from AMD was 79xx series.

 

[eidairaman1]

Funny how not so long ago Koduri was worshiped on this forum, but today his work is called "a mess".
Isn't Vega great anymore? What happened?

Just like HBM was praised as the future of GPUs and AMD's great advantage.

Never was worshipped.

I don't recall Vega ever being "great" and I don't bother listening to forum fanboy's. IMO the last good cards from AMD was 79xx series.

Rx 290/X.

I don't get and understand why there is so much turning a blind eye for AMD. You are great when you praise them but when you criticize them you are in most wanted list. Koduri was God before he joined Intel, now he is all the reason why AMD is 5 years behind Nvidia. I have my reservations about Koduri as well but I will wait until Intel releases their product to judge him.

Intels focus is AI

 

[Patriot]

I don't recall Vega ever being "great" and I don't bother listening to forum fanboy's. IMO the last good cards from AMD was 79xx series.

It was solid computationally but due to organization and rops always sucked for gaming, it had lots of potential for half precision boost and other features... but if you have minority share and require more work to reach performance parity... game devs aren't going to put it in, simply already overworked. I was incredibly surprised when vega launched without specialized tensor cores... and new they had to compete on price for even compute performance which they couldn't due to hbm price jack. Good idea, doa at launch prices.

 

[Lionheart]

Yet here you are, whining about people whining... Makes you far, far worse my friend.

No it doesn't, just shows the quality of TPU in a nutshell.

I don't recall Vega ever being "great" and I don't bother listening to forum fanboy's. IMO the last good cards from AMD was 79xx series.

Yeah cause the 290/390/400/500 were shit! .... roles eyes

 

[Deleted member 171912]

Where exactly is Intel going to find employees with needed experience? On Mars?

Competitors?

Also, there's no proof that Intel runs an aggressive strategy of pulling people out of any competitor.

True.

Maybe you're hoping to work in your current company for 50 years, but most people just change job from time to time.

They are not like "most people".

Where would an experienced AMD employee go next? To Walmart?

Nuvia? But they looking for experienced people from Apple.

 

[notb]

Reading these forums is like reading a sports forum and everyone's speculating on the next NFL hire/draft pick for their favorite team/rival.

Yup. Surprisingly for a "tech site", there's really a lot of focus on HR movements, marketing flops, stock prices...
It used to be a bit different when I started reading TPU...
https://www.techpowerup.com/articles/

It was till the memory manufactures decided to price fix again, they quadrupled the price between silicon spin and launch of product.

AMD was a large HBM buyer (maybe the largest potentially).
There are ways to secure supply of products that the company needs.

Do you eat at McDonalds' from time to time? Have they ever told you that they can't make a BigMac because some ingredient became expensive lately?
AMD is not a family-run small company. You (many here) cut them way too much slack. Because "they're small", "they don't have money" and basically everyone wants to hurt them.
If they choose to be small, they have to find workarounds to provide quality products.
If they choose to base their product advantage on resources in low supply (HBM, 7nm) they have to secure these resources. It's business.

Never was worshipped.

Yeah, whatever you say.
You know... I'm very patient by nature. I'll just wait until Lisa Su moves to Intel or IBM. I can't wait to read comments about her afterwards.

Intels focus is AI

I don't understand why you keep saying this.
AI is just another application for processors. Intel makes processors. It's the same thing they've been doing for decades.

 

[sepheronx]

I really dont know why most of you give a crap.

AMD is doing fine with its current RX 5700 series GPU's. They will continue to make decent cards. The company doesn't revolve around a single person and shouldn't as people come and go from companies all the time.

So Intel is hiring some former staff and even current staff. So what? AMD will find replacements and Intel will find others too.

 

[R0H1T]

IMO the last good cards from AMD was 79xx series.

I'd say that title goes to 290/x or 390/x depending on your VRAM usage

AMD has had misses, near misses & lot of hot air in between but generally they've competed i.e. made up the numbers in a sparsely populated GPU space.

 

[Frick]

WTF?

Nonsensical reply to a stupid post.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Rx 290/X.

they were packing lots of power,but that went nowehere in many cases due to drivers and cpu overhead.
multi threaded games resolved it up to a point several years later,but that was already pascal era and 290x was already mid-range at best at that time.

 

[R-T-B]

WTF?

Sarcasm. Rather randomly placed, but no more random than suggesting a pro-indian racist hiring policy.

Nonsensical reply to a stupid post.

It's why I love you Frick.

 

[Turmania]

Correct me if I'm wrong but before AMD bought ATI. Radeon cards were at least a generation ahead of Nvdia weren't they?

 

[john_]

Racist much?

The first version of that post was starting with the phrase "I know this is a dangerous post because some might rush to see racism in it", but decided to delete that part of the comment.

It's not racism to think that Raja might have in mind to create a design that would be in it's most part "made in India". If I was in his place and if I could find enough (already proven) talent in Greece, I wouldn't mind to hire them and show to the world what people from my country are capable of doing.

It's not racism to think that Raja might be feeling more comfortably working with people from his country.

On the other hand it is rude and arrogant to insult a person you don't know just so you can feel better about yourself. But know that usually when you are feeling the need to insult others, you are the one with the (major) problem.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Intel hasn't done anything on the GPU (iGPU) side for years. AMD has cleaned their clock in that arena. So Intel is trying to hire up that talent.

Still, I would bet on AMD and more specifically Lisa Su. I think Intel long ago turned the reigns over to bean counters.

AMDs Lisa Su is an engineer, with a list of hardcore engineering awards longer than my arm. Intel is run by finance and marketing artists. Given sufficient time, reality tends to kick perception in the rear, and I think that is exactly what is happening in the AMD vs Intel competition.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

aside from the personal attacks being thrown around like candy in this thread, some people just can help taking potshots at someone else's opinion.

I see this as a good move, maybe Intel will make faster headway in delivering whatever they have up their sleeve at the GPU market, but i expect a couple more years on that. I only half expect AMD's "GPU crew" will be a little more forward thinking, a top card would be nice to have but top sales is what matters to shareholders.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Done some housekeeping here as things seem to be getting personal, keep it to the topic in hand, if any of you want to insult each other then either walk away or take it to PM's.

 

[Hardware Geek]

Filching AMD's people is part of Intel's plan to steal their IP and intentionally get sued so they can bog them down in court for years and destroy them with piles of money until AMD has no choice but to give in and license the IP to Intel for pennies on what they would have been able to get otherwise, then take over the number two dGPU spot and simultaneously suck AMD's CPU R&D budget dry, relegating them back to the redheaded stepchild of CPU's.

Those dirty birdies...

P.S. No offense to redheaded stepchildren, it's just a figure of speech.

As a red-headed step-child, I approve this message.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Now going to clean myself up so we can get back on topic from here on in.