AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X Pricing and Availability Detailed

[Zubasa]

That gap is filled by TR2.

The Issue with TR2, it the 2970WX and 2990WX really don't perform well on Windows. Price-wise they are still near the 3960X which out performs both of them.
The 2970WX right now is still $1275 on newegg, so it make absolute no sense to buy new.
https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-th...tion=2970X&cm_re=2970X-_-19-113-546-_-Product
As for the 2950X, it performs almost the same as my overclocked 1950X.

As for price, I am looking at $1400 3960X + $460 ish Asrock Creator, with the price hikes that puts the cost close to $2000.
A 10980XE and a "cheap" X299 board combined costs less than a $1400 3960X.

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

inb4 3990X has a $3990 price tag. I see what you did there, AMD. xD
But hey, a 64-core HEDT monster processor (not even server grade like the EPYC) is obliterating two of the Xeon 8280s in benchmarks that's worth about $20k.
sub $4k chip is doing all those wonders in that market segment & Intel has nothing new on the table, yet.

 

[thesmokingman]

The Issue with TR2, it the 2970WX and 2990WX really don't perform well on Windows. Price-wise they are still near the 3960X which out performs both of them.
The 2970WX right now is still $1275 on newegg, so it make absolute no sense to buy new.
https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-th...tion=2970X&cm_re=2970X-_-19-113-546-_-Product
As for the 2950X, it performs almost the same as my overclocked 1950X.

As for price, I am look at $1400 3960X + $460 ish Asrock Creator, with the price hikes that puts the cost close to $2000.
A 10980XE and a "cheap" X299 board combined costs less than a $1400 3960X.

Do what you have to do?

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

even if you save $600 on a system build, you'll still be much more slower than the $2k-ish AMD build that finishes any rendering/workload in mere minutes, on top of starting more work much sooner than the Intel build. Sorry to say this, but the 10980XE is DOA when 3rd gen Threadripper was unveiled first. (Intel did a "weasel & chicken" move coz "panic attack")

 

[Zubasa]

even if you save $600 on a system build, you'll still be much more slower than the $2k-ish AMD build that finishes any rendering/workload in mere minutes, on top of starting more work much sooner than the Intel build. Sorry to say this, but the 10980XE is DOA when 3rd gen Threadripper was unveiled first. (Intel did a "weasel & chicken" move coz "panic attack")

There is no point beating the dead horse. The more expensive system is better. Who would have guess?
No one here is saying the 3960X is a bad product by any means.

Intel overpricing their products despite competition is not new either.
The still 28-core refresh W-3275 is actually $4500 vs the $3000 W-3175X,
everyone knew Intel had their head shoved up where the sun don't shine.

 

[GeForce6800Ultra]

much more expensive...

 

[john_]

Crazy to think this is how far we've come. I'm wondering how long it will be before 16C/32T is in the $300 price bracket. 5nm?

Probably in 2-3 years. (If it was in Intel hands, 1-2 decades)

 

[Recus]

$4000 AMD CPU.
If big Navi is Nvidia killer you can expect $1600.

But it's not milking if it's onii-chan AMD.

 

[notb]

Someone said AMD is killing Intel with that pricing.
Honestly, it kills itself more than anyone else.
Why isn't this CPU priced at $5000?
The key selling point is that Intel really has nothing to compare in HEDT space (just much more expensive Xeon-based workstations).

It's such a facepalm moment when Su said it's 3990 and it's priced at $3990. :/

 

[HwGeek]

IMO they will increase the pricing with Zen3 based models that will be sold side by side with TR3000.

 

[notb]

IMO they will increase the pricing with Zen3 based models that will be sold side by side with TR3000.

Looking at how much 3950X costs, there's a good chance they'll lose money on each 3990X sold, which means it's likely a limited volume marketing exercise to get good press. And that's totally fine.
VW loses money on every Veyron sold and it still makes sense for the whole lineup (and company image).

But it didn't have to be like that, right?
Intel has no answer at this point and we haven't heard anything similar is planned (maybe AMD knows more).
AMD could have priced this at $6000 or even higher - which would guarantee a fat margin and take away absolute none of the glamour.

Every time you see something priced X because it's named X (or because it's year X), it means that price was set by the board or marketing, not by pricing analysts...

 

[Vya Domus]

If big Navi is Nvidia killer you can expect $1600.

It's funny how usually top tier fanboys would laugh at the "Nvidia killer" but as soon theirs an opportunity to make fun of something else it suddenly becomes a possibility.

Anyway, I think it would be "AMD nee-san" because of Lisa rather than "onii-chan".

 

[HwGeek]

maybe it's good enough for them, also we know that WRX80 is in works, so maybe they will charge the premium for the 3990WX with it's 8CH 1TB+ support?

 

[notb]

maybe it's good enough for them, also we know that WRX80 is in works, so maybe they will charge the premium for the 3990WX with it's 8CH 1TB+ support?

"Good enough" is not how business works. They should charge as much as they think they can sell for (based on market data, i.e. about clients and competitors).

Which means one of 3 things:
- it's an extremely limited product - insignificant for the company,
- AMD knows something about Intel's answer that we don't,
- it's just too cheap (because there is no answer and it could have costed way more).

Just a short FYI: a listed company can't sell stuff at whatever price management wants - prices have to be in-line with market situation nad must lead to maximizing profits.

 

[csatahajos]

Looking at how much 3950X costs, there's a good chance they'll lose money on each 3990X sold, which means it's likely a limited volume marketing exercise to get good press. And that's totally fine.
VW loses money on every Veyron sold and it still makes sense for the whole lineup (and company image).

But it didn't have to be like that, right?
Intel has no answer at this point and we haven't heard anything similar is planned (maybe AMD knows more).
AMD could have priced this at $6000 or even higher - which would guarantee a fat margin and take away absolute none of the glamour.

Every time you see something priced X because it's named X (or because it's year X), it means that price was set by the board or marketing, not by pricing analysts...

Why would it be at a loss? The whole point of the Zen architecture/chiplet approach is to have a very affordable base CPU die that is very cheap to manufacture. Even if it would cost like 300 USD per die they are still making very good money. And considering that they are selling 8 core 3700X CPUs for not much more than 300 USD is probably a good indication that they are a lot cheaper than that (IIRC for the first gen it was estimated that a fully working 8 core die cost sub-200 USD to manufacture).

With your logic almost all of the AMD CPU 3xxx lineup would be sold at a loss...

It is Intel exactly that is probably selling it's HCC die CPUs (think 28 core Xeon-W) at a loss...

 

[HD64G]

All tables turned finally. Stratetic win in all CPU fronts from AMD that is. Mobile, HPDT, Desktop, consoles, server. VFM, security, variety are big advantages and gaming isn't deciding factor anymore with difference close to 5% in most cases when an over $1000 priced GPU is used on 1080P. So, for 95% of the PC users, AMD is the clear choice.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

$4000 AMD CPU.
If big Navi is Nvidia killer you can expect $1600.

But it's not milking if it's onii-chan AMD.

You do realize AMD is charging $62 per core, which is exactly what Intel charges for the 9900K, and less than what Intel is asking per core for the 9900KS.

 

[R0H1T]

Lots of Japanese references here but since someone referenced Nivida, shouldn't it be Hyung for JHH & Noona for LS?

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

@Zubasa I wasn't really mad at you. Just pointing out why Intel no longer innovate, brought nothing exciting to the table & whatnot.

 

[Frick]

Because of Windows scheduling issues, in most cases even the $1400 24-core 3960X already out performs the 2990WX.
3D rendering is pretty much the best case senario for the 2990WX and it barely keeps up with the 3960X.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1504...60x-and-3970x-review-24-and-32-cores-on-7nm/5
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this may have been adressed, but this that was a design compromise with the 2990WX and not really a Windows specific thing.

 

[R0H1T]

Well linux didn't really suffer from the same performance penalty, there's more than one review addressing this. 2970wx & 2990wx suffered more in Windows, especially 2990wx, though it is true that part of it was due to the limited memory channels.

 

[kapone32]

$3990 is actually a decent price for a 64/128 CPU with 288MB of Cache!!! No one who is a gamer should think of this CPU. For all of those that think the new Threadripper chips are overpriced may not realize that these are full workstation parts and much cheaper than any Intel comparable chip. I am not saying that they can't game. In my opinion AMD would give us X399 users love by releasing a 7NM X399 compatible CPU. I thought it might have been a pipe dream until I saw them release the 1600AF.

 

[Mouth of Sauron]

Looking at how much 3950X costs, there's a good chance they'll lose money on each 3990X sold, which means it's likely a limited volume marketing exercise to get good press. And that's totally fine.

Are you even serious? I guess... there's (like) nothing in the world that can back-up this claim, while the opposite, proofs that AMD is making more money the higher priced product unit is in question is all around...

 

[1d10t]

I bet these year's E3 , which supposedly leaking about upcoming Zen 3 platform, AMD might need 6 screens for comparison against Comet Lake

 

[HwGeek]

Non of you are surprised from the base clock of the 3990X? because even the top silicone for EPYC 7H12 only got 2.6Ghz while the "cheap" 3990X got 2.9Ghz at same 280W TDP!.
Looks like it uses really top quality chiplets and thus it could be really nice OC'er for those who invest in custom water cooling.
the 7H12 only boost around 3~3.3Ghz on all core, so if the 3990X has same all core boost then I believe 4Ghz is achievable with good cooling and that means over 20% OC headroom .