The new Microsoft Edge Browser is out of Preview and now Available for Download

[lexluthermiester]

I've never been a fan of Microsoft's browsers. It's a trust thing. But I decided to give this a try. Took all of 10 minutes to dislike it, and 2 hours more to hate it. No Thank You Microsoft!

It's just a reskinned Chrome to let Microsoft steal your data.

That's what I was thinking.

 

[Sybaris_Caesar]

Opera FTY

Hear hear! Though I thought of trying to get rid of it after a chinese company bought them, I just can't be bothered to move thousands of bookmarks I've saved.

 

[eidairaman1]

I've never been a fan of Microsoft's browsers. It's a trust thing. But I decided to give this a try. Took all of 10 minutes to dislike it, and 2 hours more to hate it. No Thank You Microsoft!


That's what I was thinking.

IE before XP was good, once xp rolled around it became a hindrance. Even more with it being Chrome...

 

[lexluthermiester]

IE before XP was good, once xp rolled around it became a hindrance. Even more with it being Chrome...

I'll agree with that. Still didn't like it. Netscape was just better all around. My perspective though.

 

[eidairaman1]

I'll agree with that. Still didn't like it. Netscape was just better all around. My perspective though.

It was ok for me, If I knew about mozilla then I would of grabbed it, it was Firefox that got me off of IE after XP came out...

 

[Totally]

It was ok for me, If I knew about mozilla then I would of grabbed it, it was Firefox that got me off of IE after XP came out...

Mozilla was just Netscape that was open-sourced just before AOL bought it. Thank goodness they had the foresight to do that avoiding AOL taking it to the grave with them.

 

[lemonadesoda]

The way MS has fkd so many things it got its fingers into (e.g. skype, and other acquisitions) i DO NOT want them part of the chromium consortium. They will bully the direction and priorities to serve MS interests, and either force or fork to serve their own needs. I,m ok with MS using chromium as the new engine behind Edge, but I certainly dont want them doing a reverse takeover. And you can bet that IS their strategy.

 

[eidairaman1]

The way MS has fkd so many things it got its fingers into (e.g. skype, and other acquisitions) i DO NOT want them part of the chromium consortium. They will bully the direction and priorities to serve MS interests, and either force or fork to serve their own needs. I,m ok with MS using chromium as the new engine behind Edge, but I certainly dont want them doing a reverse takeover. And you can bet that IS their strategy.

I Lost complete confidence in MS with 8.0, 10 aint any different for me...

 

[matthewmatics]

I've never been a fan of Microsoft's browsers. It's a trust thing. But I decided to give this a try. Took all of 10 minutes to dislike it, and 2 hours more to hate it. No Thank You Microsoft!


That's what I was thinking.

I went with zero 3rd party software on my recent 10 install...for about 3 days....couldn't stand it.

Back to Firefox and Ccleaner and shutup10.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I went with zero 3rd party software on my recent 10 install...for about 3 days....couldn't stand it.

Wow are you brave!

 

[matthewmatics]

I was digging it for second...just load up and go nuts....easy!

But if you ever feel like your not sure if chrome or firefox are faster just run edge or 11 for a few days....you will know again.

 

[lemonadesoda]

Yep, MS is like the opposite of the Midas touch... Sadim touch, every they touch turns to sh1t

 

[EarthDog]

Tried it.. sticking with Chrome.

 

[lexluthermiester]

But if you ever feel like your not sure if chrome or firefox are faster just run edge or 11 for a few days....you will know again.

Thing is, with all the plugins that I run in FireFox, I know for a fact my install of it runs slower than every other browser out there, but it's still snappy. Of course I never open up a million tabs and leave them open either..

 

[Bill_Bright]

It's just a reskinned Chrome to let Microsoft steal your data.

LOL No its not on both parts. It does use the Chromium open source engine but it is hardly a reskinned Chrome. And if the naysayers would just take a few minutes to read up on it, they would see it does MUCH more than Chrome to protect our data and privacy. See this and note where it talks about blocking 100s of Google tracking code by default - and that's on the medium or "balanced" setting. Move it to "Strict" and it really gets aggressive.

Edge may be viable once it matures, but right now it is still essentially in beta.

No its not. It was in beta for several months before now and was available for everyone to try. I did, but stuck with Pale Moon as my preferred browser. That's the whole point of Microsoft abandoning the "old" Edge for this "new" Edge. It uses the "mature" Chromium engine that complies with industry (not MS) standards. So no, it is not essentially in Beta. I have been using the new Edge for several days now (10 minutes is not a fair evaluation) and so far, like it. Every site I have visited has displayed properly. I can't say the same for FF or PM. And every pages loads quickly too.

The biggest problem with the new Edge is the brand name behind it. Too many, sadly, refuse to accept that Microsoft really does want its users to have a safe, stable, and enjoyable computing experience and fully believe, despite all the scrutiny Microsoft constantly receives, that Microsoft is out to get them and their data.

If you want your data out there, use Chrome.

I miss IE6 too. It never was the security risk all the MS bashers and FF fanboys claimed it was.

 

[bug]

LOL No its not on both parts. It does use the Chromium open source engine but it is hardly a reskinned Chrome. And if the naysayers would just take a few minutes to read up on it, they would see it does MUCH more than Chrome to protect our data and privacy. See this and note where it talks about blocking 100s of Google tracking code by default - and that's on the medium or "balanced" setting. Move it to "Strict" and it really gets aggressive.

You want privacy, you don't compare to Chrome. You compare to Chromium, Firefox, Brave and probably a bunch of others I can't think of right now.

 

[Bill_Bright]

You want privacy, you don't compare to Chrome.

Of course you do. For sure, with Chrome coming from Google (by far, one of the most aggressive collectors and retailers of our personal data), I certainly will compare Edge to Chrome. In fact, I think that is completely appropriate since both Chrome and Edge use the Chromium engine.

 

[bug]

Of course you do. For sure, with Chrome coming from Google (by far, one of the most aggressive collectors and retailers of our personal data), I certainly will compare Edge to Chrome. In fact, I think that is completely appropriate since both Chrome and Edge use the Chromium engine.

What? You talk privacy, but you'll compare Chrome and Edge because of the underlying engine?

 

[Bill_Bright]

What? You talk privacy, but you'll compare Chrome and Edge because of the underlying engine?

Of course! Why shouldn't they be compared? It is not the engine that is doing the snooping. It is how that engine is being used by the end developer.

Are you suggesting Waterfox, SeaMonkey, Pale Moon and Brave should not be compared with Firefox simply because they are based on the same Mozilla engine?

Should the Hyundai Tucson not be compared with the Kia Sportage? Chevrolet TrailBlazer with the Saab 9-7x or GMC Envoy? Those vehicles are built on the exact same platform, should they not be compared. What about Beefeaters with Bombay? Both are London Dry Gins. Why not compare them?

 

[bug]

Of course! Why shouldn't they be compared? It is not the engine that is doing the snooping. It is how that engine is being used by the end developer.

Are you suggesting Waterfox, SeaMonkey, Pale Moon and Brave should not be compared with Firefox simply because they are based on the same Mozilla engine?

Should the Hyundai Tucson not be compared with the Kia Sportage? Chevrolet TrailBlazer with the Saab 9-7x or GMC Envoy? Those vehicles are built on the exact same platform, should they not be compared. What about Beefeaters with Bombay? Both are London Dry Gins. Why not compare them?

I think there's a misunderstanding here.
My point was, if you care a bout privacy in a browser (Edge in our case), you don't compare it to Chrome. Chrome is a poor baseline for gauging privacy. You compare it to browsers known to fare well in the privacy department.
I hope I worded it better this time.

 

[Bill_Bright]

My point was, if you care a bout privacy in a browser (Edge in our case), you don't compare it to Chrome.

Okay, I see what you mean but again, I don't see why not.

I don't see it as a baseline issue at all. Why? Because I don't see any browser as setting a baseline.

The baseline, if you will, is 0 tracking, 0 personal information sent or collected. Period. That would be a "perfect" score.

If 0 is the baseline/perfect score and Chrome scores 20 while Edge scores 15, aren't you still comparing Chrome with Edge?

 

[bug]

Okay, I see what you mean but again, I don't see why not.

I don't see it as a baseline issue at all. Why? Because I don't see any browser as setting a baseline.

The baseline, if you will, is 0 tracking, 0 personal information sent or collected. Period. That would be a "perfect" score.

If 0 is the baseline/perfect score and Chrome scores 20 while Edge scores 15, aren't you still comparing Chrome with Edge?

Yes, but now you have 3 references. Originally we were discussing only 2: Chrome vs Edge. I was just saying, if we're going that way, I'd rather see Edge vs Firefox/Chromium/Brave. That's all.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Yes, but now you have 3 references. Originally we were discussing only 2: Chrome vs Edge.

??? I thought we were finally on the same page but now you lost me. How is "Chrome vs Edge" not comparing Chrome with Edge?

Never mind. Another day has gone by and I am liking Edge more and more - if for no other reason than it is rendering every site and page I want to see quickly and flawlessly - exactly what I want my browser to do.

 

[lexluthermiester]

When it comes to privacy, absolutely no one looks at any version of Chrome, Edge or IE and thinks "Yeah, my privacy is safe with this browser." which is why only the witless and/or ignorant use them.

 

[Bill_Bright]

which is why only the witless and/or ignorant use them.

Wow! Can you get any more arrogant and condescending? I don't think do.

Any of those can safely be used be with just a little care. And for sure, this stand totally ignores the most important aspect of it all, and that is privacy is not the same as security.