Stuttering every 5 seconds while playing

[mtcn77]

I suggest a deeper check. Surely could be, my steering set drivers and all the old lot were wreaking havoc at the time, but it seems like a hypervisor-virtualisation instance kind of lag(system setup level).

I once tried playing nfs carbon on a pentium 3.2GHz cpu. Everytime I launched the car outside the tunnel, fps would aim for the skies, in which case the cpu would shut feeding 7800gs++ and I would sit until the cpu eased as the car smashed across the pavement at the other end of the street.

I wasn't aware of framelimiters back then. I must say, musical chairs couldn't beat the anticipation.

 

[DanyelaOfCyrodiil]

Thank you a lot for your atention and answers, I have to sleep now, because tomorrow I have early subject on school. Tomorrow I'll update the thread reporting if the drivers were the issue, or it is soemthing else. good night guys ,see ya later

 

[Waldorf]

and you can keep it for that rig and replace it with the old hdd if you sell it.

 

[lsevald]

From the in game latencymon test, the lag spikes seems to be triggered by ndis.sys, which is a networking component (probably nothing wrong with the file itself). Is it only happening in Skyrim? Maybe it could be a routing problem as trickson mentioned? Or wifi issues?

 

[LabRat 891]

From the in game latencymon test, the lag spikes seems to be triggered by ndis.sys, which is a networking component (probably nothing wrong with the file itself). Is it only happening in Skyrim? Maybe it could be a routing problem as trickson mentioned? Or wifi issues?

Go into network adapter properties' advanced settings and look for anything related to energy efficiency or power management and disable them.

I assume you have the system's power options set to "High Performance" already as well? Also check your graphics vendor's control panel and make sure any power profile settings are set to high performance.

Manually downloading the latest network adapter driver, then uninstalling, reboot, and reinstalling fresh network adapter driver may help as well.

Beyond that, I've had a similar issue in the past due to windows media trying
to update my library(checks the network) in the background. Try disabling the service, temporarily or permanently.
How to: https://ccm.net/faq/20641-windows-disable-windows-media-player-network-sharing

If you search online for "ndis.sys latency spikes" you'll find several others with same issues. Including the problem being exacerbated by system load. Some fixed it with drivers or a new network adapter, others found it power saving settings related. As I mentioned, I've experienced similar issue from a windows' service unnecessarily spiking network usage.
You may want to download a free network monitoring application like wireshark to see what exactly is getting the network service loaded as well.

 

[Eskimonster]

Latest windows patch nerfed the IGPU with 18% performance. according to net sources.

 

[lsevald]

You idle testes seems fine btw. Have you tested other non Bethesda games? From what I could see from a quick google search, this kind of problem seems fairly common in Skyrim (probably other Bethesda games like Fallout also). Some have solved it by locking the frame rate of the game (60 or even 30fps). One of the threads I found here: https://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/810921273858659049/

 

[Vayra86]

We are talking about an IGP, 4GB RAM and slow storage here.

Basically the game is just too big for this setup. It shows, looking at the video, the whole thing is a stutterfest. And yes, its even worse in a way when it 'stutters'...the PC is just choking on this game. You can also observe it actually 'hanging' a few times.

Beyond an update dropping your performance, any changes to the system might also cause you to exceed the 4GB RAM... is it possible for you to roll back to Windows 1803? Not safe, but hella stable and has less features = lower usage.

 

[DanyelaOfCyrodiil]

We are talking about an IGP, 4GB RAM and slow storage here.

Basically the game is just too big for this setup. It shows, looking at the video, the whole thing is a stutterfest. And yes, its even worse in a way when it 'stutters'...the PC is just choking on this game. You can also observe it actually 'hanging' a few times.

Beyond an update dropping your performance, any changes to the system might also cause you to exceed the 4GB RAM... is it possible for you to roll back to Windows 1803? Not safe, but hella stable and has less features = lower usage.

Funny thing is that this wasn't happening 2 months ago, now all of a sudden there is a problem

You idle testes seems fine btw. Have you tested other non Bethesda games? From what I could see from a quick google search, this kind of problem seems fairly common in Skyrim (probably other Bethesda games like Fallout also). Some have solved it by locking the frame rate of the game (60 or even 30fps). One of the threads I found here: https://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/810921273858659049/

Yeah tested on Borderlands, but the problem seems to be in general, but is hard to notice while on desktop, the thing that may be involved, is that Antimalware executable is always high consuming memory, and to add more issues, my laptop have 4GB RAM but system says only 2.3 can be used, so right now trying to investigate some more and finish this annoyance

Thank you a lot for your atention and answers, I have to sleep now, because tomorrow I have early subject on school. Tomorrow I'll update the thread reporting if the drivers were the issue, or it is soemthing else. good night guys ,see ya later

And as for drivers I didn't reinstlled all of them due to lack of knowledge from my part, I'm not sure if I should re install every driver including processors drivers, I just touched the graphics, network and sound drivers

 

[mclaren85]

Decrease the pagefile size also if possible, move it to another drive.
Also, the biggest culprit of stuttering is process working sets. you should periodically clean it by using "Empty Standby List".
Download from here:

Empty Standby List

EmptyStandbyList.exe is a command line tool for Windows (Vista and above) that can empty: process working sets, the modified page list, the standby lists (priorities 0 to 7), or the priority 0 stan…

wj32.org

Please do not forget to create an automated task for this little application. Windows should execute it every 5 minutes or so.

 

[DanyelaOfCyrodiil]

Ok guys, I'm using the Wireshark, I'm no expert on this things but from time to time some strange packets that says "neighbor solicitation from random combination of letters and numbers" and "neighbour advertisement from random combination of numbers and letters" and really I don't know what to see from this, but I know too that I shouldn't be careless leaving random ips and numbers so I'm not posting image.

Today I tried to play games while using airplane mode, but wasn't successful, so is this really some network adapter problem or system-level issue? I don't know anymore, I'm starting to give up and live with this.

 

[DanyelaOfCyrodiil]

Today I used the Windows Performance monitor, and turn out that the most suspicious culprit is the "System" process that starts to do system things on background, consuming a lot of cpu and disk usage; also scanned on airplane mode to discard network adapter issues.
Ugly part of this is that the subprocesses made by "System" are essential, so I cannot disable or finish them, but all system processes were working only on one core, is there any way to balance the work with the other cores?, or a way to lower system disk usage?

 

[mclaren85]

Shut down background intelligent transfer service for decreasing hdd usage

 

[oinkypig]

Why hasnt anyone suspected to disable super fetch and windows search? Run cmd as admin then use "net.exe stop superfetch" and "net.exe stop wsearch". Disabling Superfetch from Command Prompt, well that only stops superfetch and does not disable it from starting with the next reboot. If you want to disable it, you should go into services.msc to disable it upon boot or use RegEdit to change value to disabled.

 

[DanyelaOfCyrodiil]

Shut down background intelligent transfer service for decreasing hdd usage

I went over to services to stop and diable it, but BITS wasn't running and was on manual mode, disabled it anyway.

Why hasnt anyone suspected to disable super fetch and windows search? Run cmd as admin then use "net.exe stop superfetch" and "net.exe stop wsearch". Disabling Superfetch from Command Prompt, well that only stops superfetch and does not disable it from starting with the next reboot. If you want to disable it, you should go into services.msc to disable it upon boot or use RegEdit to change value to disabled.

Didn't worked using cammand prompt, but couldn't find it on task manager and services

 

[oinkypig]

right click cmd and hit run as aministrator in order to run net.exe stop superfetch. Superfetch and wsearch causes horrendous performance in Win10 installed on mechanical Hdds, expecially the 5400rpm type. I used to have major problems with it until i upgraded to ssd.

 

[DanyelaOfCyrodiil]

right click cmd and hit run as aministrator in order to run net.exe stop superfetch. Superfetch and wsearch causes horrendous performance in Win10 installed on mechanical Hdds, expecially the 5400rpm type. I used to have major problems with it until i upgraded to ssd.

Did it but, CMD replies saying "The service name is not valid. You can get more help with NET HELPMSG 2185 command" and I haven't seen any superfetch process on task manager or service, maybe the name is different since I'm on Windows ES language.

This is an example of what happens when the spike shows

Moments ago system process wasn't this busy. But every time I start to play, after 10 mins System starts to do random things on backgorund, and this is consuming a lot of resources. I disabled a lot of Windows services (and sometimes some of them enable again). Any more ideas?

 

[DanyelaOfCyrodiil]

Today I found out that my laptop is only detecting one of two ram slots, so instead of 4GB, I am only using 2GB and more than 1GB is used to windows essential processess, do any of you knows how to fix this?

I think I've found out the problem, take a look at this:

As you can see this laptop have 4GB, but for some reason it only use 2.4GB of wich 1.6 GB is for hardware, and leaves me only on 598 MB, and the memory is always <70 and this isn't normal, even on image the graphic is high always, How can I fix this?

Other thing I found is that whenever I put maximum memory on boot advanced settings, but after rebooting, the maximum memory is again off or put to zero. I will try instead of the maximum memory (4096) I will establish it on 4095, or you guys have any ideas?

 

[DanyelaOfCyrodiil]

Reviving this thread again, today I installed hwinfo software and I noticed something very strange, on the CPU status I noticed that when the game stutters the clock and the bus Hz fall alongside the VID, could this mean that the stutters is caused by a voltage shortage? How can I discover what is causing this?

 

[E-Bear]

Stuttering is just the start. You aint seen n-n-n-n-n-nothing yet !

 

[mtcn77]

Reviving this thread again, today I installed hwinfo software and I noticed something very strange, on the CPU status I noticed that when the game stutters the clock and the bus Hz fall alongside the VID, could this mean that the stutters is caused by a voltage shortage? How can I discover what is causing this?

That is the throttle limit. Happens on gpus whenever above 80c. That is why you need to keep your gpu cool.

 

[DanyelaOfCyrodiil]

Here are the comparisons:
This is on normal conditions

And this when it stutters

That is the throttle limit. Happens on gpus whenever above 80c. That is why you need to keep your gpu cool.

Yeah many said that too but cpu is not high on temperature, and even today I cleaned the fan, cpu was working well even with fan worse conditions, so i dont know..

 

[mtcn77]

Here are the comparisons:
This is on normal conditions
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And this when it stutters
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Yeah many said that too but cpu is not high on temperature, and even today I cleaned the fan, cpu was working well even with fan worse conditions, so i dont know..

What about idle status? Because your cpu should be 2GHz. Not 800MHz, not 500MHz when it stutters. I can also see there is a timed 28second turbo sequence. Not good.

Intel Core i3 5005U Notebook Processor

Benchmarks, information, and specifications for the Intel Core i3 5005U laptop processor (CPU).

www.notebookcheck.net

 

[Totally]

Just saw this thread and was about to say it was the gpu (or igpu, in this case) cooking itself, but it looks like that's been figured out.

 

[mtcn77]

This person has solved all the nooks and cranies.

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