Ryzen DRAM Calculator by 1usmus

[TheLostSwede]

Is there anyone here who could give a novice a hand? This is my first build in like a decade and I bought the memory I did because I wasn't comfortable with doing timings manually and several places I read/watched said this was a good kit to just stick in, set xmp, and go. Unfortunately it won't POST with the XMP and I've tried following a guide from Overclocker.net but I still can't get it to POST after doing the timings and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. The setup is a 3900x, Gigabyte x570 Aorus Master (F11 BIOS version) and the memory is F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC Trident Z Neo DDR4-3600MHz CL16-19-19-39 1.35V 32GB (2x16GB). Attached are the Typhoon and Dram calc readout that I used and a cpuz of what it is running at after it fails to POST and then reboots. I have no idea what I'm doing and the guides I have found either aren't for my motherboard or aren't clear enough and assume you know some things that I've been left guessing on. Any help would be greatly appreciated even though I know it's a hassle walking through a novice.

Not familiar with Hynix DJR, but I have CJR and had the same problem with XMP not working.
First of all, you seem to have worked out all the settings correct, not sure if you exported the settings from Taiphoon Burner or not, some people claim that you get slightly better results from that, but in my experience it doesn't matter that much.
As to your settings, based on my CJR modules, all of the settings should work fine, however, you might want to upp the DRAM Voltage to the max setting, as dual rank tends to want a bit more power. Attached below are some older screenshots from my UEFI that shows what I have changed in terms of settings. I'm running my four 3600MHz modules at 3800MHz though, so if you follow the settings I've changed, but according to your DRAM Calculator results, you should be able to get it working.
Once you got it working, you can try tuning the settings, if you feel like it's worth your time.

 

[Sinjinn]

Thank you TheLostSwede that's a massive help, I didn't realize you could leave so much set to Auto, I changed like everything it said and then CPU Vcore the guide said "Up to 1.32v should be fine" but it starts at 1.2 so I had no clue what to set it to (as an example of things that weren't clear that I didn't know what to do with.) I will give everything you've got here a shot and see how it goes, thank you

 

[mstenholm]

G Skill Trident Z F4-4000C18D-16GTZ, Aorus Master and XMP was a no-go to.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Thank you TheLostSwede that's a massive help, I didn't realize you could leave so much set to Auto, I changed like everything it said and then CPU Vcore the guide said "Up to 1.32v should be fine" but it starts at 1.2 so I had no clue what to set it to (as an example of things that weren't clear that I didn't know what to do with.) I will give everything you've got here a shot and see how it goes, thank you

The settings in the DRAM calculator is for optimal performance, although I guess you ran the Safe settings as well? You can try Fast to get a bit more performance once Safe is working for you. But yes, you can leave most of the other things on auto, as they make little to no difference in terms of performance imho.
CAS and tRFC as the two that affects performance the most, besides clock speeds.

Also, keep in mind that XMP is an Intel standard and isn't guaranteed to work on AMD systems.

 

[Sinjinn]

Did you do anything to these, they aren't in your screenshots but I'm not sure if they need to be changed too, from the AMD Overclocking section?

• DDR and Infinity Fabric
• VDDP Voltage
• VDDG Voltage
• Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO)

 

[TheLostSwede]

Did you do anything to these, they aren't in your screenshots but I'm not sure if they need to be changed too, from the AMD Overclocking section?

• DDR and Infinity Fabric
• VDDP Voltage
• VDDG Voltage
• Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO)

No, no need to change those.

 

[Waldorf]

@hzy4
even if its on the qvl list, doesnt mean guaranteed to work. just that they tested it and got it to work.
the 3600CL16 gskill kit i bought is on the list (gigabyte aorus ultra) but doesnt work at all,
the 3600 corsair kit is not on the list, but works fine, even with lowest xmp settings (spd) at 1.35v.

@TheLostSwede
do you actually need almost 1.4 on yours?
gigabyte (at least on ultra) is about 0.03v higher than set.
e.g. i had to go down to 1.33 to actually have 1.35-1.36 being applied..

 

[TheLostSwede]

@TheLostSwede
do you actually need almost 1.4 on yours?
gigabyte (at least on ultra) is about 0.03v higher than set.
e.g. i had to go down to 1.33 to actually have 1.35-1.36 being applied..

I do, as I have four modules. Dual rank needs a bit more power. I was on 1.36V with two modules.
Keep in mind that they're 3600MHz modules running at 3800MHz with tighter timings.
And how do you know the Voltage was that much higher for you?

 

[Waldorf]

ah, yeah, didnt "notice" that you not only had DR, but also 4 modules.
because everything incl bios was giving me 1.368-1.38, and after spending 1h on google/gigabyte support/forum,
could verify gigabyte "increases" V on dram by about 0.03, compared to whats set.

i did run xmp from the start, tested stock/xmp settings with memtest,
and even when i lowered it to 1.33 in bios (getting 1.356-1.368) no issues.
the micron ram seems to be decent (DC kit, SR), but i still like to be on the lower side when it comes to Vs.

 

[Zach_01]

My Gigabyte (X570 Aorus pro) always apply +0.01~2V from what DRAM voltage setting is(auto, XMP or manual)
...and -0.01~2V to DRAM VTT voltage(auto or manual).

 

[Wickedt]

Thank you! do know of any alternative with similar functionality? I want to avoid using Ryzen Master... that stupid thing crashes all the time

What cooler are you using on your CPU, the only way Ryzen master runs for me is if i turn off NZXT Cam software.

@ 1usmus Im still using your power plan, and it still gives me the best clock speeds on my 3900X, I was wondering how to post my results with Ryzen Dram calculator to your excel page from the program.
My ram is insane good, i ran memtest easy and scored a 94, let me know thanks.

 

[eliwankenobi]

What cooler are you using on your CPU, the only way Ryzen master runs for me is if i turn off NZXT Cam software.

@ 1usmus Im still using your power plan, and it still gives me the best clock speeds on my 3900X, I was wondering how to post my results with Ryzen Dram calculator to your excel page from the program.
My ram is insane good, i ran memtest easy and scored a 94, let me know thanks.

The cooler I am using is a Noctua NH-u14s with an additional 120mm front Delta Fan. It’s enough to cool my 3800x tuned to 4.425ghz @1.325V... I could do 4.45ghz at 1.35v but thermals on stress testing reach way to high! I tried the nh-d15 and it was better but not enough to warrant the extra cost so I returned it. Funds will go to either a top notch AIO or Custom loop

Ryzen Master does not like to compete with other software for temp monitoring

 

[Wickedt]

The cooler I am using is a Noctua NH-u14s with an additional 120mm front Delta Fan. It’s enough to cool my 3800x tuned to 4.425ghz @1.325V... I could do 4.45ghz at 1.35v but thermals on stress testing reach way to high! I tried the nh-d15 and it was better but not enough to warrant the extra cost so I returned it. Funds will go to either a top notch AIO or Custom loop

Ryzen Master does not like to compete with other software for temp monitoring

True dat! I bought my AIO because it was on sale, and after some research for my 2700X, the NZXT X62 had great numbers, and after Matisse came out, seems its the best one for the 3900X, lucky break for me, but im happy.

 

[Snootch]

Not familiar with Hynix DJR, but I have CJR and had the same problem with XMP not working.
First of all, you seem to have worked out all the settings correct, not sure if you exported the settings from Taiphoon Burner or not, some people claim that you get slightly better results from that, but in my experience it doesn't matter that much.
As to your settings, based on my CJR modules, all of the settings should work fine, however, you might want to upp the DRAM Voltage to the max setting, as dual rank tends to want a bit more power. Attached below are some older screenshots from my UEFI that shows what I have changed in terms of settings. I'm running my four 3600MHz modules at 3800MHz though, so if you follow the settings I've changed, but according to your DRAM Calculator results, you should be able to get it working.
Once you got it working, you can try tuning the settings, if you feel like it's worth your time.


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If your board is like mine, and I'm pretty sure the AMD x570 all have similar if not identical RAM options, your RAM is actually going into "safe mode" and running at it's safe timings and speed. Did you get any warning at boot? When mine does this it lets me know. What stood out was the 15-15-15-15-36 timings for each stick which doesn't line up with the type of RAM you say you have. So on the right is what you have set and the 2 under CHA and CHB is what it's actually running at. All of those setting are too low for that speed and voltage but make sense when you look at the frequency which is on the left side which says it's running at 2142.97 or 2143 which is probably the highest non-XMP SPD timings. I get this all the time when tightening down. Now I do want to say I'm no expert on this so someone can correct me if I'm wrong on any of this but I do know you are not running at 3800MHZ. I've found that when changing the clock freq you can't just set everything to auto like this. Maybe if you stay at the rated speed because the tertiary settings you usually can leave at where ever they are stable and most of the secondary but with the primary if you want to run them at 3800mhz you'll need to put the primary values and I'd also put in the secondary otherwise it will go with the SPD values since you have XMP disabled which will not run good, not boot or do this. With my Asus x570 MB I have to leave XMP enabled than put in the values manually or it wont' run where I want it to. No idea if it's the same with the Aorus. Also you'll probably need to go higher than 1.392v for 3800.

I have B-die 3600C16-16-16-16-36 dual rank and I'm running at 1900/3800 C16-16-16-16-32-48 1.42v with a lot of tightening done beyond the calc Fast suggestions. Have my latency down to 64.5 and I don't think I can get it any lower or at least after hours and hours of trial and error and bios resets, I'm good where I'm at. When I go to safe mode after I get to ballsy it goes to 3200/15-15-15-15-32-40 which s very similar to what you have here.

Start with the calc settings and if you feel like tightening from there I suggest using the suggestions in these 2 posts. But like I said I'm no expert just been down the rabbit hole. If you already knew this but was just showing the settings than I'll eat my foot and walk away slowly.
https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/master/DDR4 OC Guide.md
https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ahs5a2

 

[Wickedt]

If your board is like mine, and I'm pretty sure the AMD x570 all have similar if not identical RAM options, your RAM is actually going into "safe mode" and running at it's safe timings and speed. Did you get any warning at boot? When mine does this it lets me know. What stood out was the 15-15-15-15-36 timings for each stick which doesn't line up with the type of RAM you say you have. So on the right is what you have set and the 2 under CHA and CHB is what it's actually running at. All of those setting are too low for that speed and voltage but make sense when you look at the frequency which is on the left side which says it's running at 2142.97 or 2143 which is probably the highest non-XMP SPD timings. I get this all the time when tightening down. Now I do want to say I'm no expert on this so someone can correct me if I'm wrong on any of this but I do know you are not running at 3800MHZ. I've found that when changing the clock freq you can't just set everything to auto like this. Maybe if you stay at the rated speed because the tertiary settings you usually can leave at where ever they are stable and most of the secondary but with the primary if you want to run them at 3800mhz you'll need to put the primary values and I'd also put in the secondary otherwise it will go with the SPD values since you have XMP disabled which will not run good, not boot or do this. With my Asus x570 MB I have to leave XMP enabled than put in the values manually or it wont' run where I want it to. No idea if it's the same with the Aorus. Also you'll probably need to go higher than 1.392v for 3800.

I have B-die 3600C16-16-16-16-36 dual rank and I'm running at 1900/3800 C16-16-16-16-32-48 1.42v with a lot of tightening done beyond the calc Fast suggestions. Have my latency down to 64.5 and I don't think I can get it any lower or at least after hours and hours of trial and error and bios resets, I'm good where I'm at. When I go to safe mode after I get to ballsy it goes to 3200/15-15-15-15-32-40 which s very similar to what you have here.

Start with the calc settings and if you feel like tightening from there I suggest using the suggestions in these 2 posts. But like I said I'm no expert just been down the rabbit hole. If you already knew this but was just showing the settings than I'll eat my foot and walk away slowly.
https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/master/DDR4 OC Guide.md
https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ahs5a2

Awesome info, thanks for this. I don't know what to say about the 3800Mhz thing, but mine did it fairly easily, after importing from typhoon burner, previous to that i could do nothing, it just would not boot.
I had to raise voltage a bit, to 1.41 volts on the dram, but after that it was golden. I also set a lot of the advanced settings, they seemed to help a lot with stability, now i can run karhu ramtest without issue. I was worried about temp, but Gskill emailed me back and said that ram i had should overclock like crazy. Im happy with this now..

 

[Sinjinn]

Not familiar with Hynix DJR, but I have CJR and had the same problem with XMP not working.
First of all, you seem to have worked out all the settings correct, not sure if you exported the settings from Taiphoon Burner or not, some people claim that you get slightly better results from that, but in my experience it doesn't matter that much.
As to your settings, based on my CJR modules, all of the settings should work fine, however, you might want to upp the DRAM Voltage to the max setting, as dual rank tends to want a bit more power. Attached below are some older screenshots from my UEFI that shows what I have changed in terms of settings. I'm running my four 3600MHz modules at 3800MHz though, so if you follow the settings I've changed, but according to your DRAM Calculator results, you should be able to get it working.
Once you got it working, you can try tuning the settings, if you feel like it's worth your time.

Ok, I tried what you put in your screenshots (in regards to only changing those settings) and put the DRAM voltage on the max recommended setting from the calculator. Still no luck, it just crash/reset after I hit Save/Exit and rebooted and when I got back into the BIOS the settings were still there, but the memory frequency was only at 2143mhz but the Cha A/B Volt is at 1.392V which is higher than what I set it to be (1.38V)

Edit: I can not for the life of me find "Power Down Mode" to disable it

I'm starting to think I have either a faulty motherboard or faulty ram. In the BIOS before where you change the timings there's a SPID (I think that's what it was) option that shows you the 4 memory slots. In slot A2 it shows my memory kit and all the various information but slot B2 is blank. Also I noticed when not trying to get into the BIOS and letting it boot back into Windows some message pops up above the Aorus logo that says "pmu memory training error", it's longer than that but it goes too fast for me to see all of it.

 

[Wickedt]

Ok, I tried what you put in your screenshots (in regards to only changing those settings) and put the DRAM voltage on the max recommended setting from the calculator. Still no luck, it just crash/reset after I hit Save/Exit and rebooted and when I got back into the BIOS the settings were still there, but the memory frequency was only at 2143mhz but the Cha A/B Volt is at 1.392V which is higher than what I set it to be (1.38V)

Edit: I can not for the life of me find "Power Down Mode" to disable it

I'm starting to think I have either a faulty motherboard or faulty ram. In the BIOS before where you change the timings there's a SPID (I think that's what it was) option that shows you the 4 memory slots. In slot A2 it shows my memory kit and all the various information but slot B2 is blank. Also I noticed when not trying to get into the BIOS and letting it boot back into Windows some message pops up above the Aorus logo that says "pmu memory training error", it's longer than that but it goes too fast for me to see all of it.

I think you have a bad dram, try 2 in the board in the recommended slots, see what happens. If it works, then ya, bad memory chip, if you can also test the other 2 slots with the good memory, then yes its a memory chip, but if it doesn't work, then the motherboard. A2 could be a dead slot, but only way to know, is to experiment a bit.
Good luck

 

[Sinjinn]

Ok, so in Windows/CPUZ it says there's 32gb of memory, but in the BIOS it says there's only 16GB, what does that mean?

 

[TheLostSwede]

If your board is like mine, and I'm pretty sure the AMD x570 all have similar if not identical RAM options, your RAM is actually going into "safe mode" and running at it's safe timings and speed. Did you get any warning at boot? When mine does this it lets me know. What stood out was the 15-15-15-15-36 timings for each stick which doesn't line up with the type of RAM you say you have. So on the right is what you have set and the 2 under CHA and CHB is what it's actually running at. All of those setting are too low for that speed and voltage but make sense when you look at the frequency which is on the left side which says it's running at 2142.97 or 2143 which is probably the highest non-XMP SPD timings. I get this all the time when tightening down. Now I do want to say I'm no expert on this so someone can correct me if I'm wrong on any of this but I do know you are not running at 3800MHZ. I've found that when changing the clock freq you can't just set everything to auto like this. Maybe if you stay at the rated speed because the tertiary settings you usually can leave at where ever they are stable and most of the secondary but with the primary if you want to run them at 3800mhz you'll need to put the primary values and I'd also put in the secondary otherwise it will go with the SPD values since you have XMP disabled which will not run good, not boot or do this. With my Asus x570 MB I have to leave XMP enabled than put in the values manually or it wont' run where I want it to. No idea if it's the same with the Aorus. Also you'll probably need to go higher than 1.392v for 3800.

I have B-die 3600C16-16-16-16-36 dual rank and I'm running at 1900/3800 C16-16-16-16-32-48 1.42v with a lot of tightening done beyond the calc Fast suggestions. Have my latency down to 64.5 and I don't think I can get it any lower or at least after hours and hours of trial and error and bios resets, I'm good where I'm at. When I go to safe mode after I get to ballsy it goes to 3200/15-15-15-15-32-40 which s very similar to what you have here.

Start with the calc settings and if you feel like tightening from there I suggest using the suggestions in these 2 posts. But like I said I'm no expert just been down the rabbit hole. If you already knew this but was just showing the settings than I'll eat my foot and walk away slowly.

I think you replied to the wrong person...

Awesome info, thanks for this. I don't know what to say about the 3800Mhz thing, but mine did it fairly easily, after importing from typhoon burner, previous to that i could do nothing, it just would not boot.
I had to raise voltage a bit, to 1.41 volts on the dram, but after that it was golden. I also set a lot of the advanced settings, they seemed to help a lot with stability, now i can run karhu ramtest without issue. I was worried about temp, but Gskill emailed me back and said that ram i had should overclock like crazy. Im happy with this now..

Same here, 3800MHz was much easier than I anticipated.

Ok, I tried what you put in your screenshots (in regards to only changing those settings) and put the DRAM voltage on the max recommended setting from the calculator. Still no luck, it just crash/reset after I hit Save/Exit and rebooted and when I got back into the BIOS the settings were still there, but the memory frequency was only at 2143mhz but the Cha A/B Volt is at 1.392V which is higher than what I set it to be (1.38V)

Edit: I can not for the life of me find "Power Down Mode" to disable it

I'm starting to think I have either a faulty motherboard or faulty ram. In the BIOS before where you change the timings there's a SPID (I think that's what it was) option that shows you the 4 memory slots. In slot A2 it shows my memory kit and all the various information but slot B2 is blank. Also I noticed when not trying to get into the BIOS and letting it boot back into Windows some message pops up above the Aorus logo that says "pmu memory training error", it's longer than that but it goes too fast for me to see all of it.

No need to disable the power down mode.
Could be bad RAM, more likely than a bad board.
It seems like you're using the right RAM slots. If the information is blank, try re-seating the RAM, i.e. take it out, wipe off the connectors with something soft, check there's no crap in the slot and put the module back in again. If that fails, you most likely have a dud.
Try just using the module in the A2 slot, you will be able to hit the same clocks with only one module.
Then swap it out for the other stick and see if the system starts or not.

 

[Sinjinn]

Ok, so started the testing, this is what I've got so far. In Slot A2, *both* sticks POST by themselves, with XMP on, at 16-19-19-39-58 1T. The PMU error is not present when there is only 1 stick in A2. In the BIOS both sticks when in A2 show their SPID info. So, now do I try each stick in slot B2 by themselves? or am I supposed to try A1 or B1 before going to B2 (was only thinking B2 since that was the slot that was coming up with the blank SPID)

Ok, here is some additional information. I started to try to test Slot B2. I put Stick #2 into B2, it went into the BIOS - now here's a strange thing, when just 1 stick was in Slot B2 in the BIOS it was able to read the SPD Info even though when I had sticks in Slot A2/B2 the SPD for slot B2 was blank. So I tried turning the XMP on and restarting it to see if it would boot like it did in Slot A2. It did not POST, and after it did not POST I couldn't even get back into the BIOS. The debug code kept cycling through a bunch of stuff and then stopping on C5. So I tried taking out the ram, cleared the CMOS, then put in Stick #1 into Slot B2, that one wouldn't even go into the BIOS, it just kept cycling through codes and stopping on C5. So I took Stick 1 out of Slot B2 and put it back into Slot A2, cleared CMOS, went into the BIOS fine and booted with XMP just fine.

So, can you not run a stick by itself in Slot B2? or is my Slot B2 just busted?

 

[TheLostSwede]

Ok, so started the testing, this is what I've got so far. In Slot A2, *both* sticks POST by themselves, with XMP on, at 16-19-19-39-58 1T. The PMU error is not present when there is only 1 stick in A2. In the BIOS both sticks when in A2 show their SPID info. So, now do I try each stick in slot B2 by themselves? or am I supposed to try A1 or B1 before going to B2 (was only thinking B2 since that was the slot that was coming up with the blank SPID)

Ok, here is some additional information. I started to try to test Slot B2. I put Stick #2 into B2, it went into the BIOS - now here's a strange thing, when just 1 stick was in Slot B2 in the BIOS it was able to read the SPD Info even though when I had sticks in Slot A2/B2 the SPD for slot B2 was blank. So I tried turning the XMP on and restarting it to see if it would boot like it did in Slot A2. It did not POST, and after it did not POST I couldn't even get back into the BIOS. The debug code kept cycling through a bunch of stuff and then stopping on C5. So I tried taking out the ram, cleared the CMOS, then put in Stick #1 into Slot B2, that one wouldn't even go into the BIOS, it just kept cycling through codes and stopping on C5. So I took Stick 1 out of Slot B2 and put it back into Slot A2, cleared CMOS, went into the BIOS fine and booted with XMP just fine.

So, can you not run a stick by itself in Slot B2? or is my Slot B2 just busted?

Wow, hard to say. Any chance you can get hold of another memory kit to test with?
Have you checked there's no dust/crap in the slot or any damage to it?
You can try using A1 and B1, the system should still boot, it's simply not the recommended way.
At least you know the memory runs at XMP settings, which is one issue solved.

 

[Sinjinn]

I'll give the A1/B1 a shot, individually and combined? and see what happens. I haven't noticed anything in the slot, I looked with a flashlight, tried a little compressed air from a can, just in case.

 

[Snootch]

I think you replied to the wrong person...

No I was replying to you, referring to the screenshots of your bios settings which show your RAM clocking down. Like I said, the screenshots may just be you showing an example of settings and not what you have running. Looks like this was an issue people were having with that board and the fact I missed that you said these were old screenshots you probably have fixed this already.

Also, regarding what timings affect performance. at least with my config I was able to get an additional 3GB/s of bandwidth and .5-1ns of latency with additional tightening of the calc's "fast" settings and most of those were secondary timings. All you have to gain from 3600 -> 3800 is bandwidth so it's worth it to tighten up those secondaries. Maybe Gigabyte does a bit extra on auto timings and like I said, all I know is my RAM and board but I'm curious on what timings it set? Especially with that low of voltage as I haven't seen anything lower than 1.4 at that speed. Not saying I don't believe you, I'm just impressed and what to know more.

Awesome info, thanks for this. I don't know what to say about the 3800Mhz thing, but mine did it fairly easily, after importing from typhoon burner, previous to that i could do nothing, it just would not boot.
I had to raise voltage a bit, to 1.41 volts on the dram, but after that it was golden. I also set a lot of the advanced settings, they seemed to help a lot with stability, now i can run karhu ramtest without issue. I was worried about temp, but Gskill emailed me back and said that ram i had should overclock like crazy. Im happy with this now..

Man, those are some sexy numbers. I'm on a 3700x now but will soon be moving up to the 3900x. That second memory controller makes quite the difference. Maybe you misunderstood me but I'm running just fine at 3800. Not running them as tight as you, and haven't tried past 16-16-16-16-32 since getting everything tightened down with those timings took some years off my life and probably my computer after all the no-posts and me figuring this all out. Are those 2 sticks single rank? I have 2 sticks dual rank and hope I can get those timings with the 3900x. Also, I found that importing the whole profile from Typhoon, the calc is off on it's conversions (clock->ns). No clue how or if it is all of the ones it pulls but I know for certain that my RAM has ~8.8 latency. If I import from typhoon it reads it as 7.7. From reading other's experience, b-die will run better with the Typhoon import along with some other good dies but some won't boot after typhoon import settings and get much better results with reading from XMP. But it really only affects a few timings that after tightening ends up in the same spot anyway, especially if you use the calc as a starting point then tighten using those guides I posted.

 

[Wickedt]

No I was replying to you, referring to the screenshots of your bios settings which show your RAM clocking down. Like I said, the screenshots may just be you showing an example of settings and not what you have running. Looks like this was an issue people were having with that board and the fact I missed that you said these were old screenshots you probably have fixed this already.

Also, regarding what timings affect performance. at least with my config I was able to get an additional 3GB/s of bandwidth and .5-1ns of latency with additional tightening of the calc's "fast" settings and most of those were secondary timings. All you have to gain from 3600 -> 3800 is bandwidth so it's worth it to tighten up those secondaries. Maybe Gigabyte does a bit extra on auto timings and like I said, all I know is my RAM and board but I'm curious on what timings it set? Especially with that low of voltage as I haven't seen anything lower than 1.4 at that speed. Not saying I don't believe you, I'm just impressed and what to know more.



Man, those are some sexy numbers. I'm on a 3700x now but will soon be moving up to the 3900x. That second memory controller makes quite the difference. Maybe you misunderstood me but I'm running just fine at 3800. Not running them as tight as you, and haven't tried past 16-16-16-16-32 since getting everything tightened down with those timings took some years off my life and probably my computer after all the no-posts and me figuring this all out. Are those 2 sticks single rank? I have 2 sticks dual rank and hope I can get those timings with the 3900x. Also, I found that importing the whole profile from Typhoon, the calc is off on it's conversions (clock->ns). No clue how or if it is all of the ones it pulls but I know for certain that my RAM has ~8.8 latency. If I import from typhoon it reads it as 7.7. From reading other's experience, b-die will run better with the Typhoon import along with some other good dies but some won't boot after typhoon import settings and get much better results with reading from XMP. But it really only affects a few timings that after tightening ends up in the same spot anyway, especially if you use the calc as a starting point then tighten using those guides I posted.

Single rank B die, i love royal silver memory, expensive, but man that performance diff from stock is crazy. I did a lot of the advanced options from the calculator, they are all there in the bios, just have to pull out all your hair to find them lol, and believe me, there was a lot of growing pains getting there, and a lot of reboots. The coolest part, is after all is said and done, its solid as anything, looking at the statistics from memtest built in the program, i beat 1usmus score

 

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@Snootch find the forum thread about my board, plenty more screenshots there. Currently traveling and won't have access to that machine for a couple of months.