AMD FX 8350 Upgrade Options in current build

[_Lex]

Hello,

I’m looking to upgrade my CPU. My build stats are below and wanted your advice before I upgrade. I recently upgraded the GPU and PSU and believe that my current CPU is bottle-necking my system. I’m a gamer and was expecting to see better fps from my GPU upgrade. Before I make this next upgrade, I just wanted to get some advice from people that probably know this stuff better than me. So my question is which CPU would be the best in my current build?

MBO = ASUS M5A78L-M PLUS/USB3
CPU = AMD FX 8350 4.00GHz
GPU = NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB
RAM = CORSAIR 8GB DDR3-2133 PC3-17066 Vengance Pro (16GB total)
PSU = CORSAIR - CX Series Modular CX750M 750W
OS = Win10
HDD = SSD
Display = 21:9 2560x1080p 200hz

I appreciate your time!

Thanks,

 

[newtekie1]

Without replacing the motherboard, and RAM, you really don't have much option for upgrades to the CPU.

 

[bobbybluz]

Personally I'd replace the CPU and motherboard and go from there. At the moment you're dealing with a lost cause all things considered.

 

[eidairaman1]

Hello,

I’m looking to upgrade my CPU. My build stats are below and wanted your advice before I upgrade. I recently upgraded the GPU and PSU and believe that my current CPU is bottle-necking my system. I’m a gamer and was expecting to see better fps from my GPU upgrade. Before I make this next upgrade, I just wanted to get some advice from people that probably know this stuff better than me. So my question is which CPU would be the best in my current build?

MBO = ASUS M5A78L-M PLUS/USB3
CPU = AMD FX 8350 4.00GHz
RAM = CORSAIR 8GB DDR3-2133 PC3-17066 Vengance Pro (16GB total)
PSU = CORSAIR - CX Series Modular CX750M 750W
OS = Win10
HDD = SSD
Display = 21:9 2560x1080p 200hz

I appreciate your time!

Thanks,

You would need to push 5GHz on your current setup, however that board would need excessive cooling to.

I highly Suggest a Ryzen R5 3600 or better from AMD

 

[kapone32]

For a new build you would need CPU, RAM and motherboard. You currently have the highest CPU as the ones above it are just factory OC. If you want the best price/performance eidairaman1 is right but if you live in the States the 1600AF is a no brainer. If you are just going to be using 1 GPU a B450 tomahawk or As Rock B450 Pro would be nice. In terms of RAM look for something with at least a 3000MHZ 1616-16-36 2x 8 GB set. Any of those 2 CPUs come with a cooler so unless you want to do a heavy OC you won't need an aftermarket cooler.

 

[eidairaman1]

For a new build you would need CPU, RAM and motherboard. You currently have the highest CPU as the ones above it are just factory OC. If you want the best price/performance eidairaman1 is right but if you live in the States the 1600AF is a no brainer. If you are just going to be using 1 GPU a B450 tomahawk or As Rock B450 Pro would be nice. In terms of RAM look for something with at least a 3000MHZ 1616-16-36 2x 8 GB set. Any of those 2 CPUs come with a cooler so unless you want to do a heavy OC you won't need an aftermarket cooler.

Do they distinguish the AF easily?

 

[Vario]

You would need to push 5GHz on your current setup, however that board would need excessive cooling to.

I highly Suggest a Ryzen R5 3600 or better from AMD

This would be the best choice, and you'd need a new motherboard and DDR4 ram.

 

[_Lex]

I appreciate everyone’s advice – seems I posted on the right site – Thank you

From what I gather, the current CPU is the best I can do with my current motherboard and RAM, so I need to look at something like this –

Ryzen R5 3600
CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz
ASRock MicroATX Motherboard (B450M PRO4) (I have a smaller case and only need one GPU)

Thanks again guys,

 

[harm9963]

Went with 2700x and G.Skill 3600 16GBx2 plus Asus 470 Prime pro ,did update with latest bios and more, side note did have a 3600 on first day, no signal or post, long story short went back to Micro Center ,exchange for 2700x .
been benching and testing

at 1080p , day and night!
at 1440 depends on settings or game
at 4K no change, i knew this already going in

old system when new
8370e at 4500 cost $119.00 plus tax
MSI MB cost $179.00 plus tax
EVGA 16GB 2400 cost $90 plus tax

New system
2700x $139.99 plus tax
G.Skill 16GB ram 3600 $72.00 plus tax
Asus MB 470 Prime pro $89.00 plus tax

This was purely a luxury upgrade and at my pleasure

 

[eidairaman1]

I appreciate everyone’s advice – seems I posted on the right site – Thank you

From what I gather, the current CPU is the best I can do with my current motherboard and RAM, so I need to look at something like this –

Ryzen R5 3600
CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz
ASRock MicroATX Motherboard (B450M PRO4) (I have a smaller case and only need one GPU)

Thanks again guys,


Before you jump at Corsair, check compatibility for Ryzen, Corsair has been the most troublesome for Socket AM4, you neev very specific corsair model.

DDR4 Ryzen Compatibility | COUNTLESS OPTIONS, GUARANTEED PERFORMANCE.

www.corsair.com

 

[dirtyferret]

Do they distinguish the AF easily?

on amazon it has its own listing but Amazon is currently sold out and the local "merchants" have doubled in price from a week ago

Amazon.com: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 65W AM4 Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler (YD1600BBAFBOX): Computers & Accessories

Buy AMD Ryzen 5 1600 65W AM4 Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler (YD1600BBAFBOX): CPU Processors - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases

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[eidairaman1]

Make sure to update the motherboard bios from Asrock website.

Ensure to get corsair ryzen compatible ram for your specific motherboard, otherwise go gskill

Computer Memory | RGB Ram | CORSAIR

CORSAIR memory is built with the highest quality materials and is rigorously tested to provide the highest performance for every PC build. Shop now.

www.corsair.com

 

[lexluthermiester]

I appreciate everyone’s advice – seems I posted on the right site – Thank you

From what I gather, the current CPU is the best I can do with my current motherboard and RAM, so I need to look at something like this –

Ryzen R5 3600
CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz
ASRock MicroATX Motherboard (B450M PRO4) (I have a smaller case and only need one GPU)

Thanks again guys,

That is a solid solution. I would get the R7 3800 as the extra 2 cores will make a difference in many applications and would future-proof you better.

And welcome to the forums!

 

[Zach_01]

Hello,

I’m looking to upgrade my CPU. My build stats are below and wanted your advice before I upgrade. I recently upgraded the GPU and PSU and believe that my current CPU is bottle-necking my system. I’m a gamer and was expecting to see better fps from my GPU upgrade. Before I make this next upgrade, I just wanted to get some advice from people that probably know this stuff better than me. So my question is which CPU would be the best in my current build?

MBO = ASUS M5A78L-M PLUS/USB3
CPU = AMD FX 8350 4.00GHz
GPU = NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB
RAM = CORSAIR 8GB DDR3-2133 PC3-17066 Vengance Pro (16GB total)
PSU = CORSAIR - CX Series Modular CX750M 750W
OS = Win10
HDD = SSD
Display = 21:9 2560x1080p 200hz

I appreciate your time!

Thanks,

Hey there...

5~6 months ago I replaced my FX8370 system with the R5 3600(nonX) I currently have. To give you perspective, the raw CPU power increase from the FX to the R5 was X2 for a single thread and X2.5~3 for all thread load.
For gaming you will see a nice upgrade in performance like a +20~50% for avg FPS depending the game, but what will make huge difference will be the low (1%) FPS. This could be up to doubled.

What is your budget roughly for this upgrade?

 

[_Lex]

Well, now that I'm thinking in terms of CPU, motherboard, and RAM. I was thinking around $600.

I would like to future proof the system as much as possible. Perhaps only looking at another GPU upgrade in a couple of years.

 

[Zach_01]

Well, now that I'm thinking in terms of CPU, motherboard, and RAM. I was thinking around $600.

That is a very nice budget for those 3 components...

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Yeah, you can go B450 but since you have the budget these would give you more options for an upgrade for CPU after maybe 3 years. 4000series its on its way for the end of 2020 and it will be compatible with those boards more than B450. Let alone the features of those X570 boards.
This RAM kit I put on both is really all you'll need for the Ryzen3000 system. and its compatible with both boards according to G.Skill.
DDR4 3600 16-16-16-36 is really nice...

The X570 taichi is more VRM capable, from AorusElite, other than rich in features. Still the Elite can handle even a high-end CPU like the 3950X or one from next 4000series.

 

[_Lex]

That is a very nice budget for those 3 components...

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Yeah, you can go B450 but since you have the budget these would give you more options for an upgrade for CPU after maybe 3 years. 4000series its on its way for the end of 2020 and it will be compatible with those boards more than B450. Let alone the features of those X570 boards.
This RAM kit I put on both is really all you'll need for the Ryzen3000 system. and its compatible with both boards according to G.Skill.
DDR4 3600 16-16-16-36 is really nice...

The X570 taichi is more VRM capable, from AorusElite, other than rich in features. Still the Elite can handle even a high-end CPU like the 3950X or one from next 4000series.

Awesome man, Thanks for spelling this out barney style.

 

[Splinterdog]

I went from an FX 8350 to a Ryzen 2600X and noticed a massive difference in performance, not just in gaming, but also video rendering.
Mind you, that was before the 3000 series was available, so you've now got amazing choices if you go with AMD.

 

[_Lex]

I went from an FX 8350 to a Ryzen 2600X and noticed a massive difference in performance, not just in gaming, but also video rendering.
Mind you, that was before the 3000 series was available, so you've now got amazing choices if you go with AMD.

Good to hear - I also do some video editing.

 

[Zach_01]

Good to hear - I also do some video editing.

Like I said 3600 will give you X2.5~3 the FX performance in these kind of workloads. The 3700X even more...

 

[lexluthermiester]

The 3700X even more...

This. With the budget you listed, the 3700x/3800x, a very good board and performance ram are well within your reach.

 

[_Lex]

So here's what I'm considering at this point. This is all available on Amazon right now. (Zach_01, had to trade out your RAM, it was unavailable). Am I skimping on the motherboard to much? I've just owned ASUS in the past, so feel comfortable with them.

Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200 (PC4-25600) C16 1.35V, Optimized for AMD DDR4 Systems
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core, 16-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor with Wraith Prism LED Cooler
Asus Prime X570-P Ryzen 3 AM4 with PCIe Gen4, Dual M.2 HDMI, SATA 6GB/s USB 3.2 Gen 2 ATX Motherboard

 

[Vario]

I recommend G.Skill for ram, I recently built a system with Ripjaws V F4-3600C16D-32GVKC, 32GB Kit (16GBx2) 3600 C16 and was only about $150 at Microcenter, really nice performing ram. Heatsinks are fairly low profile too, slightly lower than my TridentZ.

edit: ~$160 from online retailers, good price. $30 less than the Neo and same kit probably.

 

[eidairaman1]

I recommend G.Skill for ram, I recently built a system with F4-3600C16D-32GVKC, 32GB Kit (16GBx2) 3600 C16 and was only about $150 at Microcenter, really nice performing ram.

If he insists on corsair which he appears to do Im just glad the one he is going with is AM4 compatible for x470...

I Prefer Gskill,Crucial, Mushkin Adata, Team, Geil, Patriot myself

 

[Vario]

If he insists on corsair which he appears to do Im just glad the one he is going with is AM4 compatible for x470...

I Prefer Gskill,Crucial, Mushkin Adata, Team, Geil, Patriot myself

No problem as long as he gets memory that is compatible, as everyone has brand preferences and that is their choice.

I'd consider the Corsair Vengeance LPX rather than Dominator Platinum RGB. Low profile heatsinks are really nice with big coolers, obstruct less airflow, and just overall less hassle to deal with. Dominator Platinum RGB's are really tall.

Corsair Vengeance LPX 3466 C16 (CMK16GX4M2Z3466C16) $115 on Amazon claims to be AMD friendly SKU. I think its Hynix.
The Corsair Vengeance LPX 3600C18 CMK16GX4M2B3600C18 which is a bit faster is $99 on Amazon and I think it is also AMD compatible according to the Asus QVL.

The confusing thing is the 3600C18 CMK16GX4M2B3600C18 has decent timings of 18-19-19-39 and another 3600C18 the CMK16GX4M2Z3600C18 has the much worse 18-22-22-42, but they both look the same and the Amazon seller page is similar and the price is similar, $99 vs $85, so if deciding between these two, definitely get the one with M2B in the name, CMK16GX4M2B3600C18 which is $99.