1usmus Custom Power Plan for Ryzen 3000 Zen 2 Processors

[Wickedt]

Seems we have Bios 2.70 for the Taichi, updates to Agesa 1.0.0.4B it says. I installed it, reset bios and re did all my ram overclocking, but tried to see how it affects memory clocking, was able to hit 3800 easily, and at a lower voltage, loving my Aida scores at 3800, and if you look, you'll see Aida ran with multiplier 46.25, effectively 4625 MHz CPU, how cool is that.

PS still using the 1usmus international power plan.









Anybody see an area for improvement in Mem timings, its B-die, Gskill Royal Silver

 

[Gbarz]

WickedT are you using the newest chipset driver (v.1.11.22.0454) released 11/25/19 direct from AMD? I have the X570 Taichi with a 3700 and love the new bios have heard weird things on reddit about the new chipset driver so I have been holding off.

 

[Viruzz]

Is anyone tested this with the new Threadripper? Does this tweak help? Has Any effect? Or has negative effect?
Im building new build on 3960x

Thanks

 

[Wickedt]

WickedT are you using the newest chipset driver (v.1.11.22.0454) released 11/25/19 direct from AMD? I have the X570 Taichi with a 3700 and love the new bios have heard weird things on reddit about the new chipset driver so I have been holding off.

Yeppers, and have had no problems at all.

Is anyone tested this with the new Threadripper? Does this tweak help? Has Any effect? Or has negative effect?
Im building new build on 3960x

Thanks

I would think that the latest Windows 10 update included all of the recommendations for thread-ripper just before launch, so i would think it will work, i mean the real difference here is Core Configuration: 4 CCD's, 6 Cores per CCD, my 3900X is 2 6 core CCD's . I would try it and see, chances are it will work, nothing to lose, except a little time changing the settings in bios.

*EDIT: The original changes that 1usmus recommended to change in the BIOS were all based on making sure the fastest cores were used, and that the windows would actually use the fastest cores, this was implemented better in WIN10 1903 update and also changes were made to these same settings in the 1.0.0.4B Bios updates to many X570 chipset based motherboards. So the Ryzen balanced power plan from the latest AMD chipset drivers mirror 1ustmus power plan. I still get better performance overall with the 1usmus Universal power plan (the latest from 1usmus).

Heres my results after installing Beta Bios 2.73 from ASRock

I was worried about temps with my ram, so i contacted GSKILL and asked if this was a problem.

This just in from Gskill, concerning temps and overclocking of my crazy fast ram:

"That is still within normal range so it will be fine.

The kit you have is surely overclockable, it is one of the best kits on the market.

Thank you
GSKILL SUPPORT"

So there ya have it.
Seems 44 to 45 is fine and well within allowable limits. Love this Ram! Ran Karhu Memtest, solid as a rock!
Final results

With this bios, i have 3 cores hitting over 4600, ok 0.1 over isn't crazy, but its still over. lol
This is with latest AMD chipset and 1usmus power plan, and settings.

 

[Gbarz]

Yeppers, and have had no problems at all.



I would think that the latest Windows 10 update included all of the recommendations for thread-ripper just before launch, so i would think it will work, i mean the real difference here is Core Configuration: 4 CCD's, 6 Cores per CCD, my 3900X is 2 6 core CCD's . I would try it and see, chances are it will work, nothing to lose, except a little time changing the settings in bios.

Beta Bios 2.73 from ASRock

I was worried about temps with my ram, so i contacted GSKILL and asked if this was a problem.

This just in from Gskill, concerning temps and overclocking of my crazy fast ram:

"That is still within normal range so it will be fine.

The kit you have is surely overclockable, it is one of the best kits on the market.

Thank you
GSKILL SUPPORT"

So there ya have it.
Seems 44 to 45 is fine and well within allowable limits. Love this Ram! Ran Karhu Memtest, solid as a rock!
Final results

View attachment 141510

With this bios, i have 3 cores hitting over 4600, ok 0.1 over isn't crazy, but its still over. lol
This is with latest AMD chipset and 1usmus power plan, and settings.

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What voltage is you ram running @3800, and SOC VDDP and VDDG Taichi presets? I have mine at 1.48 unfortunately the tforce Xtreem ram doesn't have temp monitoring enabled/ I don't know where it's being reported hwmonitor and hwinfo don't show it...

 

[Wickedt]

What voltage is you ram running @3800, and SOC VDDP and VDDG Taichi presets? I have mine at 1.48 unfortunately the tforce Xtreem ram doesn't have temp monitoring enabled/ I don't know where it's being reported hwmonitor and hwinfo don't show it...

I was able to do this all at Taichi auto settings, only boosted the dram voltage 1.4V, and i did as many of the advanced settings from Ryzen Dram calculator, the memory learning, etc.
Heres some pics of various info from hwinfo, threw in my Asus RTX2080 oc mild overclock, but great performance from this card.
EDIT: The higher max info reported is playing Division 2 @4K, maxed out settings .

 

[svan71]

so is this recommended on 1909 with latest 2.01.15.2138 chipset drivers on x570 with a 3950x?

 

[Wickedt]

I think the important part here is doing the bios settings and then use 1usmus plan or even AMD's high performance plan, seem to be very similar after i did benchmarks. I prefer the 1usmus plan myself.
I have a feeling that a lot of the Bios settings here have been set this way in the latest 1.0.0.4B bios. Doesn't hurt to make sure though.

 

[tefra]

Please help me.
I have an asrock taichi ultimate x470 motherboard with the latest P3.90 BIOS. And I can’t find the preferred CPPC and CPPC cores, but I saw a screenshot of the asrock x570 motherboard with the given parameters.
In BIOS version P3.90 there is no general settings folder for SMU. I would be grateful for any help.

 

[midnightoil]

Can this be installed manually? If so, how?

I've unzipped and then run it as admin, but on pressing a button it just closes immediately (not sure if intended behaviour).

Nothing new in Power Plans either before or after reboot.

Running W10 Pro x64 on a 3600

 

[willgart]

Please help me.
I have an asrock taichi ultimate x470 motherboard with the latest P3.90 BIOS. And I can’t find the preferred CPPC and CPPC cores, but I saw a screenshot of the asrock x570 motherboard with the given parameters.
In BIOS version P3.90 there is no general settings folder for SMU. I would be grateful for any help.

not all bioses are equal
you may not have an option for that
no problem if you dont have the option.

Can this be installed manually? If so, how?

I've unzipped and then run it as admin, but on pressing a button it just closes immediately (not sure if intended behaviour).

Nothing new in Power Plans either before or after reboot.

Running W10 Pro x64 on a 3600

try running as admin
(right click run as administrator)

 

[midnightoil]

try running as admin
(right click run as administrator)

I did, per my post.

 

[willgart]

I did, per my post.

sorry, to tired, dont catch this
lol
try running the batch from a command line gui, you'll see any error message
and still start the command line as admin.

 

[midnightoil]

sorry, to tired, dont catch this
lol
try running the batch from a command line gui, you'll see any error message
and still start the command line as admin.

Doing it from elevated cmd prompt worked. Thanks.

 

[ddmeltzer8]

Im using the 1usmus universal power plan,but every time windows goes to sleep it changes to another power plan!Can someone help me in any way?
Thanks.

 

[Wickedt]

Try rebooting your computer right after you change the power plan to make it take effect, seems to me that going into sleep mode it is messing it up by not loading it right away, then defaulting to the previous plan selected.

 

[ddmeltzer8]

Try rebooting your computer right after you change the power plan to make it take effect, seems to me that going into sleep mode it is messing it up by not loading it right away, then defaulting to the previous plan selected.

ok,but it doesnt matter what plan is the last,it always changes to high perf,anyway.even if its several plans after it.
i think it actually might be gigabyte easy tune thats the root of this evil.il post back if it doesnt fix it.
thanks.

 

[Al Chafai]

Anyone here with a strix f x570?
Who tied tried this mod!!

 

[Trooyyy]

Not working for 3800x? Any help?
did change the bios setting and disable pbo
win10 2004
Gigabyte x470 1.0.0.4B

 

[thomasck]

As this is the main thread about it, what's the relevance for the power plan now?

I've seen @1usmus saying it's not relevant anymore around tweeter as Microsoft and amd fixed it, but, I still get better results with this power plan + bios settings.

So it's time to revert settings in bios and back to use ryzen power plan? Or just use ryzen power plan and leave previous cppc etc bios settings?

This bellow is a post of my from couple os days ago when a guy questioned about over oc.net



This thread make me go back and try [MENTION=540936]1usmus[/MENTION] power plan again. Lot's of changes along the way since released, and at that time I was having some 1-2s pauses while gaming when using 1usmus power plan, but I've noticed I was also having same issue with the ryzen balanced, so I always used ryzen high performance.

Cutting the bushes, here are 4 runs of 3dmark firestrike, two with 1usmus plan and bios settings applied (cppc etc) and two runs with amd high perf. with bios reverted (cppc etc back to stock).

1st run ryzen high perf 24827
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/22788579
2nd run 1usmus power plan 25202
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/22788535
3rd run ryzen high perf 24834
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/22788516
4th run 1usmus power plan 25286
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/22788491

Both physics and combined scores are higher with 1usmus power plan. Same behaviour is noticed when running cpuz and cinebench. In cpuz, particularly, ryzen high perf. power plan has slightly more muticore perf but loses in single core.
Cores reaching 4500-4600 and sometimes 4625 is visibly more frequent with 1usmus power plan too. 4200-4375 while gaming. With ryzen high perf I see less boosting around 4600 mark, gaming is around 4200-4275.
I could do a more in depth analysis with capframex, some graphs from hwinfo64 but nobody in interested in this kid of stuff anymore.
3900x / taichi x370 / 2x8gb 3733 1:1, windows 10 updated last build, latest chipset/gpu/bios.

 

[Wickedt]

As this is the main thread about it, what's the relevance for the power plan now?

I've seen @1usmus saying it's not relevant anymore around tweeter as Microsoft and amd fixed it, but, I still get better results with this power plan + bios settings.

So it's time to revert settings in bios and back to use ryzen power plan? Or just use ryzen power plan and leave previous cppc etc bios settings?

This bellow is a post of my from couple os days ago when a guy questioned about over oc.net



This thread make me go back and try [MENTION=540936]1usmus[/MENTION] power plan again. Lot's of changes along the way since released, and at that time I was having some 1-2s pauses while gaming when using 1usmus power plan, but I've noticed I was also having same issue with the ryzen balanced, so I always used ryzen high performance.

Cutting the bushes, here are 4 runs of 3dmark firestrike, two with 1usmus plan and bios settings applied (cppc etc) and two runs with amd high perf. with bios reverted (cppc etc back to stock).

1st run ryzen high perf 24827
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/22788579
2nd run 1usmus power plan 25202
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/22788535
3rd run ryzen high perf 24834
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/22788516
4th run 1usmus power plan 25286
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/22788491

Both physics and combined scores are higher with 1usmus power plan. Same behaviour is noticed when running cpuz and cinebench. In cpuz, particularly, ryzen high perf. power plan has slightly more muticore perf but loses in single core.
Cores reaching 4500-4600 and sometimes 4625 is visibly more frequent with 1usmus power plan too. 4200-4375 while gaming. With ryzen high perf I see less boosting around 4600 mark, gaming is around 4200-4275.
I could do a more in depth analysis with capframex, some graphs from hwinfo64 but nobody in interested in this kid of stuff anymore.
3900x / taichi x370 / 2x8gb 3733 1:1, windows 10 updated last build, latest chipset/gpu/bios.

I'm always interested in this stuff, i get the same results as you,. always better benches in almost everything using 1usmus plan.
Maybe a bios reset, then the Ryzen perf plan, to see if its based on default bios settings?

 

[thomasck]

I'm always interested in this stuff, i get the same results as you,. always better benches in almost everything using 1usmus plan.
Maybe a bios reset, then the Ryzen perf plan, to see if its based on default bios settings?

I've ran couple more of FF to double check my mental sanity as I was sure I've done this in the past to "prove" is not bios related.
The thing is, besides "Power Supply Idle Control = Low Current Idle" which in the stock bios is AUTO and PPC Adjustment = PState 0 which I did not found, the others are all AUTO which in my case (Taichi x370) equals to ON or ENABLED. So in the end what would make difference, if any, is only setting Power Supply Idle Control as any option in the bios when is set to AUTO equals to ON/ENABLED.

So, in all tests bellow we have bios back to full stock > set timings and voltages > boot to windows > msconfig remove all startup etc > boot again > tests

1 run bios stock + ryzen high perf
2 run bios stock + ryzen high perf
3 run bios stock + 1usmus power plan

Then I moved to cpuZ and the results are mixed. Best single core goes to Ryzen plan and best multi goes to 1usmus plan.
1st 1usmus 2nd ryzen 3rd 1usmus 4th ryzen

Clocks, around the time while benching the above. Is evident 1usmus plan is getting better clocks, even when I run any boost tester, 1usmus clocks go higher.

1usmus plan

ryzen plan

And then SuperPi 1MB to see some quick single core movement. Left 1usmus plan, right ryzen plan.
With 1usmus plan I could see two cores playing with 4525 scaling up to 4600mhz, hence the faster calculation.
With Ryzen plan I noticed only one core scaling from 4525 up to 4575, with then a slower calculation.

Then cb15 and cb20. 1usmus plan stays ahead.

cb15 1usmus plan averages,
cb15 single 213
cb15 multi 3235

cb15 ryzen plan averages,
cb15 single 211
cb15 multi 3208

cb20 1usmus plan averages,
cb20 single 519
cb20 multi 7293

cb20 ryzen plan averages,
cb20 single 517
cb20 multi 7219

What to use now after this? Can't know. Is all that within error's margin? Maybe. What difference makes setting cppc etc in bios? Can't know. But by just switching from ryzen plan to 1usmus plan yields me more score in basically everything (except cpuz), I see more cores jumping around, and better scores overall.

 

[Wickedt]

Its hard to explain that's for sure, with the 1ustmus plan my system always seems to run better, lower temps most of the time, and just overall better performance.
I do have most of the settings done in bios, found most of them, except a couple that really didn't matter according to 1ustmus. Im running a 3900X with Gskill silver ram @3800MHz CL15, and a ASRock Taichi X570.

 

[thomasck]

@Wickedt do you mind posting some scores if you have? cpuz, cb15/20, superpi.. My rig is a 3900x taichi x370 1867 1:1 CL15.

 

[Wickedt]

@Wickedt do you mind posting some scores if you have? cpuz, cb15/20, superpi.. My rig is a 3900x taichi x370 1867 1:1 CL15.

Ill run some tomorrow, and post them. Attached a few i already had. The ones here are 1utmus. I did some comparisons before, will look to see, i posted to another site, or even maybe here.